Noni juice

Christian Anderson4 said:Nobody here is claiming that Noni is a miracle drug that cures all diseases. But it's also a fact that many doctors recommend it to those suffering from carcinogenic diseases—NOT AS A CURE, but rather for strengthening and boosting the body's resistance, given how much chemotherapy and such can weaken the system. So, as a supplement.
The truth is you have to watch out for the people selling it in MLMs, because they really do overpromise. Specifically, the company Morinda, or Tahitian International, boasts about having 200 millionaires in their network and paying out billions of dollars to their associates. They promise you'll have a bigger paycheck than 20 $0.00 if you become a distributor. You have to be wary of them. As for Noni juice, like what Zachary Castillo7 has been explaining all this time, we just have to wait for its effects to be scientifically established. The mere fact that it's been used from 1996 until now in the US and European markets means something. If it weren't effective, it would have vanished from the scene in a matter of months.

...even though there isn't a shred of proof that the juice actually does any of that. It's not like taking a spoonful of honey with an apple, or eating some sauerkraut, or just grabbing fresh fruit and veggies.
I guess I'm just saying that I don't see much point in throwing my money at a group of people who seem to be profiting off others' misfortunes, especially when I'm surrounded by things that are actually PROVEN to work.

If it didn't work, it would have vanished from the market in a matter of months.

That's not really a solid argument when you consider there's an entire MLM army and a multi-million dollar industry backing the sales. It's like saying local psychics must be legit because they've been "breaking curses" for hundreds of years... are you seriously suggesting they actually work?

Besides, after all this time (Noni has been around for nearly 20 years), there still isn't a single study proving positive effects of Noni on humans. How does that even happen? Ever wonder why? Everything we have is just studies showing how certain components affect bacteria colonies or some mice in a lab.

Let me ask you something: do you honestly believe that L'Oréal anti-wrinkle cream reduces wrinkles by 65.3%? Do you truly believe Orbit gum whitens teeth, or that Axe deodorant makes you a magnet for people? So why the blind faith in Noni? 😕

I don't know... when you're facing the possibility of losing someone you love, I think I’d cling to just about anything—seriously, any method that actually showed some kind of results. My mom started taking Noni yesterday; she has esophageal cancer, and if nothing else, I just hope it helps shrink the tumor even slightly so she can eat normally and breathe easier without coughing so much...

And as for marketing, especially the private side of things, I've seen firsthand just how shady it can get. I worked last month for Divitor Domus, selling books in shops and sawmills, and honestly, the women there lie so much just to push those books on people that I find myself wondering where their conscience went. 😲

Good luck... Just don't go telling her everything you read on here. That whole "miracle cure" autosuggestion stuff can really mess with your head...

wanderinghawk17 said:...even though there isn't a shred of proof that the juice actually does any of that. It's not like taking a spoonful of honey with an apple, or eating some sauerkraut, or just grabbing fresh fruit and veggies.
I guess I'm just saying that I don't see much point in throwing my money at a group of people who seem to be profiting off others' misfortunes, especially when I'm surrounded by things that are actually PROVEN to work.

If it didn't work, it would have vanished from the market in a matter of months.

That's not really a solid argument when you consider there's an entire MLM army and a multi-million dollar industry backing the sales. It's like saying local psychics must be legit because they've been "breaking curses" for hundreds of years... are you seriously suggesting they actually work?

Besides, after all this time (Noni has been around for nearly 20 years), there still isn't a single study proving positive effects of Noni on humans. How does that even happen? Ever wonder why? Everything we have is just studies showing how certain components affect bacteria colonies or some mice in a lab.

Let me ask you something: do you honestly believe that L'Oréal anti-wrinkle cream reduces wrinkles by 65.3%? Do you truly believe Orbit gum whitens teeth, or that Axe deodorant makes you a magnet for people? So why the blind faith in Noni? 😕

I think you've got it wrong. In the MLM market, Noni is sold by: Tahitian noni International, Calivita, and partially by Lukasov Tahitian noni, which is also unjustifiably overpriced. There are companies that aren't in MLMs either. If a life insurance policy is a good thing, you shouldn't dismiss it as useless or pointless just because of various aggressive agents and salesmen.
In our market, there are teams basically selling nothing but "water with a good commercial." For example🙂 Npreta 1,3 D Glukan. In USA Today, The New York Times, and on the radio, there were constant ads claiming this product was up to "120 times stronger than similar products," and that it was "scientifically proven" you'd feel better after just 3-4 days, etc. The actual production cost of these tablets is peanuts. They probably invest everything $1667 into advertising. In America, we have tens of thousands of pharmacies. The product was sold—or is still being sold—for about $350 and maybe $233. If just one pharmacy sells 2-3 boxes of tablets, just calculate the profit. However, after people try it for a few months to a year, the excitement fades. This same crew had the exact same story with colostrum. We'll see what their next project is. No one has written against this racket—not The New York Times nor USA Today. They just pocketed the ad money. Noni, unlike those other products, isn't facing that fate; it's appearing more and more on the market, and prices are dropping to more realistic levels. It's similar to aloe vera and those kinds of preparations. This isn't just a trend in the US, but worldwide. As Zachary Castillo7 already pointed out, there clearly isn't any desire to investigate things thoroughly because it doesn't make money for the pharmaceutical industry, since they don't produce it. And they, of course, are the primary sources of funding for such research.

As far as black and white magic goes, I know it exists and can actually work. But that’s a different conversation, not meant for this forum.

People who believe strictly in the material world just refuse to accept that life is actually more complex than that. If you can feel someone watching you, why wouldn't there be people capable of consciously projecting negative energy toward someone else?

Christian Anderson4 said:As far as black and white magic goes, I know it exists and can actually work. But that’s a different conversation, not meant for this forum.

Should those all-caps letters actually mean something? ☕

I can only say it once more: twenty years and not a single shred of proof.

I really feel like people need a heads-up about this. We should be teaching folks what actual healthy eating looks like instead of letting them lean on these "miracle" drinks and pills that just don't do squat. If they actually worked, there would already be a legitimate study out there. Heck, the manufacturer would be the first one jumping at the chance to fund it. It baffles me that they haven't... I guess it just hasn't crossed their minds...😁

Honestly, I'm pretty much done with the debate. I think anyone with half a brain reading through this can make their own call.

Wishing the absolute best to everyone dealing with serious illness. I truly hope you all pull through and recover.

Later.

I'm actually curious about the price tag on this stuff—what does a liter run you these days?

wanderinghawk17, thank God you finally left. You became exhausting, obsessing over the exact same thing over and over. It’s clear you have some internal issues; you obviously have no respect for anyone else's perspective or arguments. And yours are so pathetic that you're simply not worth the time anymore.

shadowtiger said:I'm actually curious about the price tag on this stuff—what does a liter run you these days?

Prices vary: American Noni goes for about $127, the 950 ml bottles sit around 250-$87, and Thai noni is roughly 150-$67. The main difference is that the pricier ones are produced in the US, whereas the Thai noni is processed right where it's harvested, in Thailand.

Back by popular demand... (and honestly, even if Christian Anderson4 is acting like a total nuisance with his "noni salesman" routine)

This stuff is actually worse than Coca-Cola...

France warns consumers OFF noni juice

Quote : [ EDIT ] Regulatory warnings and safety testing in August 2004. Quote : France warns consumers OFF noni juice The French food safety authority is advising consumers not to drink more Than 30 ml of noni juice per day as som Studies have linked IT with hepatitis.

AFSSA issued the statement in response to increasing numbers of noni juice products entering the US market.
Just this Week The UK's food authority Said IT Had received another application for marketing approval in The EU fra Hawaiian Noni.

But the French authorities, known to take a highly cautious approach to new food products, said it had very limited data on the tropical fruit's consumption.

It noted further that two recent publications had reported severe liver problems in three people after consumption of the juice. Thes appeared in The European Journal of Gastroenterology and Hepatology (2005;17:445-7) and the World Journal of Gastroenterology (2005;11:4758-60).

investigations into The cause of The problems is ongoing, it said, but drew attention to recommendations on the product's label for consumption to remain lower than 30ml per day.

It also repeated the advice from novel foods regulators that no health claim had been approved on this product and any misleading claims being made on the Internet should not be heeded by consumers.

Aren't you guys embarrassed selling "snake oil"? Honestly, where is your sense of decency?

Quote:
Andrew Weil, M.D.

Juice comes fra The noni or morinda tree found in The Polynesian islands as well as Hawaii. The tree produces a knobby, foul-smelling fruit that has been used as a traditional remedy by islanders, particularly as a laxative and topical application for skin ailments. Noni juice is a pricey, nasty smelling and sour tasting product aggressively promoted through multi-level marketing as a treatment for just about any health problem you can name: cancer, diabetes, heart disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, arthritis, psoriasis, allergies, sinus infections, menstrual cramps, ulcers, depression, head lice and on and on. All this has resulted in $ 1 billion in worldwide sales for The company that manufactures and sells Noni Juice. Despite the health claims and the enthusiastic testimonials of customers, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that Noni Juice is an effective treatment for anything AT All. Although som laboratory research Has demonstrated potentially helpful effects on cancer cells, no human studies have been conducted so we have no way of knowing if the lab findings will translate into useful treatments for humans. A researcher in Hawaii received a small grant last year from the National Institutes of Health to conduct The First scientific study of Noni in human cancer patients. The most damage Noni Juice is likely to do is to your bank account. However, anyone with kidney disease should avoid it because its high potassium content could lead to high potassium levels , a danger when the kidneys aren't working normally. While IT is true that Noni Has been used in traditional Hawaiian medicina for many years, it was rarely taken internally, except as a laxative. Instead, parts of the plant were used for a poultice applied to wounds and used to treat skin disorders. You also might be interested to know that in 1998, the manufacturers of Noni Juice were charged by the Attorneys general of Arizona, California, New Jersey and Texas with Making unfounded health claims and were ordered to stop advertising the purported benefits until they could provide scientific backup. That hasn't happened . The government of Finland Has banned The sale of Noni Juice until ads are revised eliminating unsubstantiated health claims. My recommendation? Say "no" to Noni.

And just like that, guys like our buddy Christian Anderson4 are totally exposed...

http://noni.worldwidewarning.net/www...ionquarantine/

Do yourself a favor and read up on this. Unless, of course, you're perfectly happy staying blissfully ignorant while people promise you the moon and the stars just to line their own pockets...

Bravo!

wanderinghawk17 said:Aren't you guys embarrassed selling "snake oil"? Honestly, where is your sense of decency?

Quote:
Andrew Weil, M.D.

Juice comes fra The noni or morinda tree found in The Polynesian islands as well as Hawaii. The tree produces a knobby, foul-smelling fruit that has been used as a traditional remedy by islanders, particularly as a laxative and topical application for skin ailments. Noni juice is a pricey, nasty smelling and sour tasting product aggressively promoted through multi-level marketing as a treatment for just about any health problem you can name: cancer, diabetes, heart disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, arthritis, psoriasis, allergies, sinus infections, menstrual cramps, ulcers, depression, head lice and on and on. All this has resulted in $ 1 billion in worldwide sales for The company that manufactures and sells Noni Juice. Despite the health claims and the enthusiastic testimonials of customers, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that Noni Juice is an effective treatment for anything AT All. Although som laboratory research Has demonstrated potentially helpful effects on cancer cells, no human studies have been conducted so we have no way of knowing if the lab findings will translate into useful treatments for humans. A researcher in Hawaii received a small grant last year from the National Institutes of Health to conduct The First scientific study of Noni in human cancer patients. The most damage Noni Juice is likely to do is to your bank account. However, anyone with kidney disease should avoid it because its high potassium content could lead to high potassium levels , a danger when the kidneys aren't working normally. While IT is true that Noni Has been used in traditional Hawaiian medicina for many years, it was rarely taken internally, except as a laxative. Instead, parts of the plant were used for a poultice applied to wounds and used to treat skin disorders. You also might be interested to know that in 1998, the manufacturers of Noni Juice were charged by the Attorneys general of Arizona, California, New Jersey and Texas with Making unfounded health claims and were ordered to stop advertising the purported benefits until they could provide scientific backup. That hasn't happened . The government of Finland Has banned The sale of Noni Juice until ads are revised eliminating unsubstantiated health claims. My recommendation? Say "no" to Noni.

You really found some "experts" there. Why don't you cite actual scientific studies regarding 😁"but can someone who fell on the floor consume it?" or studies that go as far as declaring milk harmful?
The fact that these "studies" were conducted by "scientists" with questionable knowledge proves they don't even grasp the basics of the Noni fruit. They list specific islands, when in reality Noni grows all over Southeast Asia: Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, India, and so on. It also grows in the Philippines, Cook Islands, parts of Australia, and parts of Africa. You can find it in Central America too. These scientists are trying to explain advanced mathematics when they haven't even mastered elementary school stuff.
It’s just like those local "experts" back in the former America who labeled goats as pests and ended up banning them from being raised altogether.

wanderinghawk17 said:And just like that, guys like our buddy Christian Anderson4 are totally exposed...

http://noni.worldwidewarning.net/www...ionquarantine/

Do yourself a favor and read up on this. Unless, of course, you're perfectly happy staying blissfully ignorant while people promise you the moon and the stars just to line their own pockets...

And why don't you recommend checking out the pages Zachary Castillo7 cited at the start of this thread? Why do you insist on sticking to your own supply? Let me be clear: No one is claiming Noni is a miracle cure for every ailment, but that doesn't mean it's worthless either.
There have always been critics and proponents of Noni. There will always be skeptics like you for everything and everyone.
It’s obvious you work for some pharmaceutical company—companies that are essentially nothing more than massive con artists.
After the banking sector, the pharmaceutical industry pulls in the largest profits in the world.
They even invent medical conditions, much like how menopause was declared. It used to be considered a normal stage of life; now you and your "researchers" label it a disease just to drive profit. Compared to the pharmaceutical industry, the money made from Noni juice is pocket change.

It’s beyond obvious that wanderinghawk17 works in pharma or is pulling commissions from them. That’s why people like him will trash not just Noni, but Aloe Vera, chamomile, lavender, and everything else. They’ll just dismiss it all as superstition. It's all a play to maximize their own profits. Honestly, wanderinghawk17, you’re exposed now. No need to pretend you're "protecting people's money" when you're really just trying to line your own pockets.👎

That’s quite a statement from someone who clearly only signed up just to try and "deal" some Noni juice.

Hypocritical...

...but honestly, I saw it coming. It’s been twenty years and they still can’t back up any of these claims with actual evidence, so when they run out of arguments, they just start attacking whoever they're talking to.

Christian Anderson4 said:And why don't you recommend checking out the pages Zachary Castillo7 cited at the start of this thread? Why do you insist on sticking to your own supply? Let me be clear: No one is claiming Noni is a miracle cure for every ailment, but that doesn't mean it's worthless either.
There have always been critics and proponents of Noni. There will always be skeptics like you for everything and everyone.
It’s obvious you work for some pharmaceutical company—companies that are essentially nothing more than massive con artists.
After the banking sector, the pharmaceutical industry pulls in the largest profits in the world.
They even invent medical conditions, much like how menopause was declared. It used to be considered a normal stage of life; now you and your "researchers" label it a disease just to drive profit. Compared to the pharmaceutical industry, the money made from Noni juice is pocket change.

Give me a break. What about all those blatant lies I've stumbled upon from "Noni" dealers? It’s just a mountain of fabrications and unproven claims. And honestly, that's just one of the good guys. There are hundreds of them out there. They’re just drawn to the easy money they can make off naive—and often desperate—people who are just trying to grab onto any straw they can find... 👎

The wide-ranging benefits of Noni can be attributed to the following components:😛Proxeronin, amino acids, enzymes, vitamins, minerals, xseronin, scopoletin, damnakantal, etc.

So, what are the primary beneficial properties of Noni?

The Noni fruit contains 800 times more Proxeronin than pineapple, which until recently was considered the primary source of this ingredient. Proxeronin and proxeronase are two key components that allow the human body to produce Xeronin, the most vital alkaloid for regenerating all molecules within bodily cells. It essentially regulates cellular function.

When there's an insufficient supply of Proxeronin, our proteins can't perform their intended roles, leading to a compromised physical state that can manifest as various serious illnesses and ailments. In other words, increasing Proxeronin intake directly addresses the underlying issue. That’s where the effectiveness of Noni juice comes into play. Someone with low levels of Xeronin will experience various issues due to their proteins failing to function properly. By consuming Noni juice, a person introduces Xeronin into their system, which facilitates healthy protein function—essentially leading to overall wellness. To some, this might seem like a "miracle." The reason so many people describe Noni juice as "miraculous" is naturally due to its Proxeronin content, backed up by the actual results seen in individuals who supplement their daily diet with Noni juice. By using Noni juice, we provide our bodies with the fundamental tools needed to activate all internal functions and processes. Noni juice supplies the body with Proxeronin, which then regulates and creates the necessary amount of Xeronin, while any excess is simply absorbed, meaning that excessive Proxeronin intake doesn't cause any harm or side effects..

Xeronin and proxeronin possess exceptional antidepressant effects. These substances promote the release of endorphins, which results in improved mood and a sense of well-being. Additionally, they help alleviate debilitating pain caused by joint inflammation without being addictive.

On top of all that, xseronin triggers the body's natural anti-inflammatory mechanisms and boosts resistance against bacteria and viruses. Because of this, Noni is recommended for anyone who frequently suffers from upper respiratory infections.

Thanks to its damnakantal content, Noni provides outstanding protection against malignant developments, specifically slowing down the growth of existing tumors. In cases where tumors develop in the body, the levels of the enzymes xseronin, proxeronin, and proxeronase—which Noni contains in significant amounts—decrease. Due to its adaptogenic properties, it is capable of normalizing cells that aren't functioning correctly. Regular use of Noni contributes significantly to effective tumor protection.

They call this stuff the "Queen of Fruits" for a reason. It’s packed with 18 different amino acids that basically act as building blocks for muscle growth while simultaneously keeping your body from breaking down existing muscle tissue. If you're hitting the gym regularly, that kind of support is a game-changer. Plus, it’s loaded with special substances that help shuttle nutrients between cells, giving it a real regenerative effect.

Then there's scopoletin. This compound helps keep your thyroid functioning smoothly and bumps up your serotonin and melatonin levels. In plain English, that means it helps stabilize your mood and keeps your sleep cycle in check so you can actually adjust to daily shifts without feeling totally wiped. Noni also helps relax your arteries, which plays a massive role in bringing down high blood pressure triggered by stress and tension. On top of that, it improves tissue circulation and lowers the risk of blood clots, essentially acting as a shield against heart attacks and strokes. Because it’s heavy on antioxidants, it fights off the oxidation of LDL cholesterol, meaning it contributes significantly to preventing cardiovascular disease.

Another heavyweight ingredient in Noni is damnacanthal. Think of it as a sort of supervisor for cell and tissue division—it basically makes sure things don't spiral out of control. Since it helps build up optimal levels of T-cells, B-cells, and other immune and lymphatic cells, it basically does the heavy lifting for your immune system, helping it stay sharp enough to take down illnesses.