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Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#1 ·
This topic has been blowing up lately, and honestly, it looks like the whole mess boils down to expansion issues.
Megan White4 Megan White4 Active Member
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#2 ·
In my family, before World War II, almost everyone succumbed to measles when it came to illness. Following the war, however, the pattern shifted; nearly everyone either passed away from cancer or continues to struggle with it, aside from those who met a natural end or suffered an accident.
Chloe Thompson Chloe Thompson Member
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joined Feb 2007
#3 ·
Unfortunately
Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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joined Feb 2007
#4 ·
One lady here shared how she’s sick, and it really hit home... at the hospital where I work, I've unfortunately lost two of my colleagues to cancer in just two years.😢
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#5 ·
What do you guys think is actually driving this expansion?
Warfare (stress levels, those depleted uranium rounds scattered all over Canada and likely here too—that infamous fallout), junk food (GMOs and just generally terrible diets), genetics, or maybe the aftermath of Chernobyl hitting its twenty-year mark...?
Does anyone have a pulse on what’s happening in the rest of Europe or globally?
And what's the situation looking like in Canada, Mexico, and the rest of the old region?
Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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#6 ·
Just to give us a point of comparison, Canada has this unique national cancer registry, but as far as I know, we don't have anything like that here in the States.
So, the big question is whether cancer rates are actually climbing. I mean, yeah, they probably are, but let's be real—people are just way more interested in the topic lately. That’s great, obviously, but public interest fluctuates based on whatever the media decides to feed us. They love dropping half-truths whenever they feel like it, usually wrapped up in a massive dose of sensationalism just to grab headlines.
Honestly, if we started diving deep into the raw statistics right now, I think this whole thread would just spiral in the wrong direction.

Let's start by clearing up what the situation looks like here in America and why it's this way. Also, if anyone joining the thread is from the former America, feel free to share your thoughts or any stats you have, though personally, I think those might be a bit irrelevant to what we're discussing here.
Jose Davis132 Jose Davis132 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#7 ·
Angela Wright said:What do you guys think is actually driving this expansion?
Warfare (stress levels, those depleted uranium rounds scattered all over Canada and likely here too—that infamous fallout), junk food (GMOs and just generally terrible diets), genetics, or maybe the aftermath of Chernobyl hitting its twenty-year mark...?
Does anyone have a pulse on what’s happening in the rest of Europe or globally?
And what's the situation looking like in Canada, Mexico, and the rest of the old region?

It’s the same story, and it is truly TRAGIC.
wearyjackal12 wearyjackal12 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2007
#8 ·
Charles Edwards8 said:Just to give us a point of comparison, Canada has this unique national cancer registry, but as far as I know, we don't have anything like that here in the States.
So, the big question is whether cancer rates are actually climbing. I mean, yeah, they probably are, but let's be real—people are just way more interested in the topic lately. That’s great, obviously, but public interest fluctuates based on whatever the media decides to feed us. They love dropping half-truths whenever they feel like it, usually wrapped up in a massive dose of sensationalism just to grab headlines.
Honestly, if we started diving deep into the raw statistics right now, I think this whole thread would just spiral in the wrong direction.

Let's start by clearing up what the situation looks like here in America and why it's this way. Also, if anyone joining the thread is from the former America, feel free to share your thoughts or any stats you have, though personally, I think those might be a bit irrelevant to what we're discussing here.

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#9 ·
Angela Wright said:What do you guys think is actually driving this expansion?
Warfare (stress levels, those depleted uranium rounds scattered all over Canada and likely here too—that infamous fallout), junk food (GMOs and just generally terrible diets), genetics, or maybe the aftermath of Chernobyl hitting its twenty-year mark...?
Does anyone have a pulse on what’s happening in the rest of Europe or globally?
And what's the situation looking like in Canada, Mexico, and the rest of the old region?

The cause behind this surge is definitely Chernobyl—that whole "curse" that kicks in after 20 years—just like that famous Dr. Alice-forgetful's surname once mentioned. And honestly, it’s even worse because the Russians tried to cover up the explosion at Chernobyl, and it was some Norwegian guy who actually brought it to light. I personally know about 5 or 6 people who got sick from it, if not more.
Charles Edwards8 Charles Edwards8 Member
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joined Feb 2007
#10 ·
Latest stats
New cancer diagnoses and deaths from 2004.

Thanks for the link, I had no idea that was even out there😉 through the CDC 🙄
A Anonymous Veteran
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#11 ·
It feels like nowadays, everyone you know has been touched by cancer in some way. At this rate, it seems like we're all eventually going to be facing it. It’s a harsh reality, but there's no denying it...
Steven Murphy Steven Murphy Newcomer
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#12 ·
Unfortunately, my fellow Americans, we’re hitting some of the highest cancer rates out there. It’s the kind of thing our brilliant politicians love to spin, basically saying, "See? We’re finally catching up to the West!"
Not exactly a comforting thought, is it?
The reasons behind this are endless (check out the start of the poll; Angela Wright mentioned some), and there are probably even more factors we haven't quite wrapped our heads around yet. Of course, this opens a massive door for the philosophers and the conspiracy theorists who want to claim it's all part of some grand plot!!!
But what really gets me thinking is the fact that in developing nations, the incidence rate is significantly lower. Take a massive country like India, for example—which, by the way, sits right there in the middle of the pack with emerging economies—and you'll find cancer rates that are three times lower or even more, especially when you look at developed regions within the Indian subcontinent like New Delhi or Mumbai. Interestingly, the distribution of specific types of tumors there actually looks just like what we see in the West!
driftingcyclist303 driftingcyclist303 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#13 ·
There have been five cases of the exact same type of cancer in my family—it’s hard to ignore the pattern. From what I can gather through the legal proceedings, genetics seems to be the primary driver here, with everything else just following suit. That said, I’m a firm believer that if you actually know what you're up against genetically, you can take certain preventative steps—as much as it's within your control. Diet, specific vitamins, green tea... maybe, just maybe, those things can hold their own against a bad genetic hand.
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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joined Sep 2005
#14 ·
In my own immediate family, I've seen three different versions of this play out.

So, I didn't cast a vote because my personal stance is basically, "I've already dealt with one case like this in my own house."
ruggednomad182 ruggednomad182 Newcomer
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#15 ·
In concentration camps, you don't see anyone dying from cancer. It’s not because they were dying from other things—though they certainly were—but because starvation simply doesn't leave enough fuel for a disease like that to develop in survivors. That’s why once those people finally started eating again, and when they moved back into "normal" life and began subconsciously recreating, reliving, and processing their trauma during more relaxed phases of life, the disease hit them en masse. It’s the same thing veterans go through. I’m one of them. When I was going in for chemo, my group included retired pilots, two active-duty detectives, several combat vets, and women who had survived various war-related traumas. I suspect genetics play the heavy lifting here—the DNA we inherit from our ancestors, along with inherited tendencies like dietary habits. I'd also say what Angela Wright listed at the start plays a part. I don't think those are set-in-stone rules, though.
Jeremy Johnson10 Jeremy Johnson10 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#16 ·
wearyjackal12 props for the link. Been hunting for this one forever...👍
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#17 ·
wearyjackal12 said:http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/

How often does this database actually get updated? These stats look like they haven't been touched since 2004.
velvetgull9 velvetgull9 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#18 ·
Dad's side: him, two brothers, a sister, and grandma. Mom's side: just grandma. Then we've got two aunts (not blood relatives, though). Plus some buddies and friends!
nimbletrucker132 nimbletrucker132 Member
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#19 ·
Dad, uncle, great-uncle, grandpa, and grandma. Is that enough? Or is it just overkill? 😲 😕 😱
Grace Jackson11 Grace Jackson11 Member
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joined Apr 2006
#20 ·
Angela Wright said:What do you guys think is actually driving this expansion?
Warfare (stress levels, those depleted uranium rounds scattered all over Canada and likely here too—that infamous fallout), junk food (GMOs and just generally terrible diets), genetics, or maybe the aftermath of Chernobyl hitting its twenty-year mark...?
Does anyone have a pulse on what’s happening in the rest of Europe or globally?
And what's the situation looking like in Canada, Mexico, and the rest of the old region?

It's probably all of that. Honestly. And yeah, cases are up everywhere globally. But, I guess we should also consider that the numbers look higher because diagnostics and treatments are just way more successful and happen much earlier now. I mean, like, 20 or 50 years ago, someone might have just passed away from a heart attack, a stroke, or just old age, without ever being diagnosed with the cancer that was actually developing inside them. My husband’s grandmother died of heart failure, but she had cancer too—it wasn't aggressive and didn't cause her heart weakness, but it still counts in the statistics. And my old man shows up in the stats twice, because they say his two cancers aren't metastases, but two separate issues occurring years apart... and who knows, he might be making room for a third one soon...

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