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Sunshine (2007)

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Linda Parker2 Linda Parker2 Member
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#21 ·
velvetotter10 said:I think this Film is absolutely brilliant. Garland wrote a script that isn't exactly easy to grasp on the first pass—it’s dense—but everything clicks perfectly into place once you start analyzing the visual and auditory cues woven throughout the entire story.

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The reason the first Icarus veered off course is because the captain—Pinbacker, the guy we see at the end—murdered his entire crew. Why? The answer is actually quite simple: he wanted to reach God. That captain is essentially a personification of humanity's drive toward perfection, just... taken to a terrifying, warped extreme. He was given a mission to save mankind, but in his flawed, very human reasoning, he drifted too far from the concept of humanism. He realized that by *not* saving Earth, he would remain the last living human ever. The systems onboard Icarus I allowed him to pull this off, so he did it. It was all part of his plan to reach Godly perfection as the final man in Space. He didn't care about the welfare of the species; he wanted to sacrifice humanity for his own sake. He shut down the computers, killed his crew, and began living in isolation, just waiting. Time and the cooling Sun, which is effectively killing off humanity, were working in his favor.

Since he clearly expected a follow-up mission to arrive, he set a beacon, calculating that human nature would inevitably draw that next mission off its intended path. And that’s exactly what happened. When Icarus II attempted to rendezvous with Icarus I, it was Pinbacker who forced them apart. He murdered Trey and carried his madness over to Icarus II.

The psychologist on Icarus II serves as the perfect foil to Pinbacker. Searle is a man who has stared into the greatness of the Sun and realized the insignificance of an individual, yet he managed to hold onto his humanism. He understands the vital importance of the individual when faced with the vastness of Space, infinite energy, and the necessity of saving everyone. He and the captain are two sides of the same coin. This is why he chooses to sacrifice himself for humanity and surrender himself to God.

Then there's the young physicist, Capa—the most crucial character in the whole thing. He is a truly Jesus-like figure. The tropes are laid out from the beginning, though they don't fully coalesce until the end—the blue eyes, the stubble, the hair. His courage is constantly being questioned, yet there's no doubt that his role in the mission is the most significant. Even if there are more dominant or visible personalities around him, it's clear from the start that Captain Kane is the only one who truly recognizes his importance. By the end of the Film, everyone else finally catches up.

In the final moments, it’s just him, Cassie, and Pinbacker left on the module. After space and time warp during the acceleration into the core of the Sun—which explains the shifting dimensions and the axis flip on the module itself—Capa initiates fission. This is where the internal logic of the Film reaches its peak: it shows that the conscious sacrifice of a pure soul is the only path to Godly providence. When you have the God-created energy of the solar flare flooding the module meeting the man-made power of atoms ready to split, Capa stands right between those two forces, momentarily transcending existence itself. In that instant, he realizes that God is with him, rewarding his willingness to open his heart and sacrifice everything to save humanity. He reaches toward God, steps into the light, and that's it.

For me, the Film is genuinely great, specifically because of the storytelling. It’s just a shame that certain parts felt rushed; I honestly think a Director's Cut would have fixed quite a lot of that. And yeah, it's a pity a story this good wasn't handled by a different director.

I don't know what the original script looked like, but the captain of that first ship reminded me quite a bit of how zombies were originally conceived—as this subversion of resurrection. That concept fits perfectly into a "coherent allegory," right? The real issue here is that the Film gives absolutely zero hints about the existence of a zombie obsessed with the idea of God until the moment he actually shows up. Usually, you'd see subtle breadcrumbs dropped at least two acts prior, but this movie fails that; instead, it takes this sudden, jarring pivot from a sci-fi drama straight into a zombie flick in the final act. It’s just a shame they didn't give the buildup the development it deserved.
velvetcrane57 velvetcrane57 Active Member
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#22 ·
Sunshine is such a breath of fresh air within this genre... an absolutely stellar Film, I’d give it a solid 7.5/10
We really ought to be producing more movies along these lines...👍👍👍
electriccyclist15 electriccyclist15 Member
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#23 ·
Visually stunning, but the direction feels a bit all over the place. It starts off strong and then just pivots into something completely different. I’m honestly still not sure if the captain from Icarus Part I turned into some kind of superhuman by the end or what... he's framed in every shot like he's practically glowing.
rapidviper54 rapidviper54 Active Member
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#24 ·
Resurrecting this thread😁 just because I finally sat down to watch the Film. Honestly? I'm torn... on one hand, it’s fantastic, but on the other, it feels pretty mediocre.

It feels like the director/writer tried to weave in some religious subtext, but it missed the mark completely. The whole thing feels disjointed—poorly stitched together, if you ask me.

I don't know... I'm still trying to wrap my 😕 head around it.
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
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#25 ·
Honestly, now that it’s finally here, I feel like I should probably weigh in too... personally, the only times this Film really worked for me were when it leaned into that obsession of that crew member with the Sun—those moments were just absolutely mesmerizing... if I happened to be on that ship, I’d probably be doing the exact same thing... everything else felt like a total black hole 😁

Garland... honestly, he might have been better off stopping after Grief (though, okay, I guess Tesseract was alright, but Coma is just Coma)
Joshua Doyle192 Joshua Doyle192 Newcomer
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#26 ·
Honestly, this Film is such a breath of fresh air. People complaining about the pacing shifts—why does that bother you so much? In my opinion, the writing is excellent (aside from a few physics hiccups if you're the type who can't handle a little cinematic leeway), and the acting is top-tier. Especially Cillian Murphy; I'm becoming a massive fan of his work. Regardless of what you think of the director, he’s the reason this piece has such a unique dimension. He consistently brings something fresh to the genre with almost everything he touches. And for those whining about "logic"... jeez, just use your imagination a little. Not every single plot point needs to be spoon-fed to you. 9/10
Peter Cooper5 Peter Cooper5 Active Member
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#27 ·
Honestly, when I first sat down to watch this Film, I was already starting to drift off... just straight up nodding off. I somehow managed to snap awake when things went sideways with the "ship" and they had to eject people... that's when the action actually kicked in, you know? Things finally started moving, the plot picked up, and even the "villain" showed up for once. If that hadn't happened, I probably would've just shut it off and gone back to sleep. I guess the ending actually left an impression on me, so I gave the Film a chance and told a few people they should check it out too.
Laura Palmer25 Laura Palmer25 Active Member
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#28 ·
Grace King5 said:...it’s basically like getting two movies for the price of one!

I honestly get the feeling the director passed away halfway through production, forcing them to grab someone else to step in and finish the job using their own ideas...

But look, being totally honest here, it isn't a bad movie. It just hurts because it had so much potential to be great, and it missed the mark slightly.

The setting is the near future. Humanity is facing extinction because the Sun is dying. As the light and heat fade away, the entire Earth gets swallowed by ice and snow.

Humanity's last shot is a spacecraft called Icarus II. They have a crew of eight astronauts and a massive bomb—think Manhattan Project scale—designed to jumpstart the Sun back to life.

It sounds ridiculous. You expect Bruce Willis to be in there trying to restart the Sun with his bare teeth... but surprisingly, despite the premise, the movie feels grounded and builds a fantastic atmosphere. The opening actually feels very much like 2001: A Space Odyssey.

However, the pacing shifts abruptly once the Icarus II crew picks up a signal from the predecessor, Icarus Part I. The first half is a pure odyssey, then it pivots into a thriller, and by the end, it turns into some weird, newly-invented sci-fi horror that’s only missing Vin Diesel.

It's worth watching just for that first act and for Cillian Murphy, who is excellent. Maybe they were just trying to please everyone—giving the Fast and Furious fans some action at the end after they probably got bored during the first half. 🙂

Exactly. I honestly think there's this massive category of films in world cinema that could all be lumped under one single label. Films that really should have been better. Just a little longer.I watched something similar a few days ago that left me in tears—not because it was moving, but because it had all the ingredients to be a classic and ended up being nothing more than mediocre filler.I guess we're doing this. Let's get to work. ...with Morgan Freeman.
What's up? Sunshine. My eyes actually hurt from all that yellow tinting; I could barely make out half the plot. Was that really a necessary choice? We could have gotten the point without it. The whole Film ended up feeling like some weird hybrid. Armageddon I'm still here. Just waiting for something interesting to happen. Event Horizon. The second one is clearly the more successful, polished effort.
7/10, and that’s being generous.
Ryan Cooper4 Ryan Cooper4 Member
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#29 ·
To Film is, quite frankly, an incredibly hysterical, disjointed, and unconvincing mess. It feels like a frantic mishmash of various movies and genres, bordering on a psychedelic trip—especially during those sequences drenched in blinding yellow light. The narrative itself lacks any sense of credibility, and the character of that surviving maniac is utterly superfluous; he is undoubtedly the weakest and most illogical link in the entire production, though one can hardly speak of "logic" when discussing a work such as this. By the end, you're left with the strange sensation that you haven't actually witnessed anything of substance. I didn't enjoy it, and truth be told, it wasn't even engaging enough to put me to sleep. It is profoundly bizarre, and it leaves one with the distinct impression that the script was penned by several different people who clearly never spoke to one another, only for someone to haphazardly stitch their conflicting ideas together without any regard for cohesion. Truly poor execution.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#30 ·
Carol Lewis said:Honestly, now that it’s finally here, I feel like I should probably weigh in too... personally, the only times this Film really worked for me were when it leaned into that obsession of that crew member with the Sun—those moments were just absolutely mesmerizing... if I happened to be on that ship, I’d probably be doing the exact same thing... everything else felt like a total black hole 😁

Garland... honestly, he might have been better off stopping after Grief (though, okay, I guess Tesseract was alright, but Coma is just Coma)

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And especially because that guy/actor has nothing in him besides the vibe of some Al-Qaeda terrorist; there is absolutely zero way he could pull off playing a quantum physicist.
Amanda Robinson4 Amanda Robinson4 Active Member
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#31 ·
If you take elements from Kubrick's Odyssey, Tarkovsky's Solaris, and Alien, and just toss them all into a blender, you end up with this... high-tech, overstimulated mess ☕ that’s visually exhausting with all that flashing lights and over-the-top effects (and hey, I'm clearly not the only one feeling it). It feels like everything is there, yet nothing is substantial enough to actually sink your teeth into. Instead of finding its own voice, it just tries too hard to act original by copying various sci-fi tropes. Okay, look, the cast is mostly solid, but the execution just isn't quite hitting the mark for me...
Joshua Hall4 Joshua Hall4 Member
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#32 ·
Sunshine is a solid Film, but it tries way too hard to be something we've already seen before.
Drew Long76 Drew Long76 Newcomer
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#33 ·
Sunshine and Moon are films I could probably watch for hours without getting bored, even if they aren't exactly masterpieces 👍👍
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#34 ·
Yeah, it's a solid Film
I've sat through it two or three times now—could honestly go for a few more rounds
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#35 ·
It’s a solid Film, though I felt the momentum start to drag once the villain was introduced.
I also found it frustrating that so much of the story relied on CGI, mostly because it forced these supposedly expert astronauts to make such amateur mistakes. Once or twice is fine, but it happened way too often for my liking.

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