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Help! Do I have mono?

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Participants AJames Gonzalez49Matthew Booth74rustymaker60brisknomad6Carol Jamescoppermaker7brightmarlin44Lisa Moore7northernviper392crimsonorca12Frank Cooper3Kate Garcia2placidfox55Nathan Smith12granitebadger25melloworca6
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#21 ·
placidfox55, that’s news to me. You got any sources on that?😬 Sending a kid with mono back to school—oh yeah, and if you could, maybe send them into a crowd😘 of everyone (ideally some of the opposite sex)👍
placidfox55, where’d you even go to college? Was it online or something? Honestly, that’s why I’m betting they finally stop relying on those mindless memory tests for admissions and actually introduce something meaningful for once.😠
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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#22 ·
Look, I don't mind people sharing health advice online, provided they actually have a clue what they're talking about. Usually, these threads just end with some wise guy telling you to "go see a doctor," which—yeah, obviously. But if someone posts their lab results and you actually know how to read them, why shouldn't you weigh in? There’s really no harm in it. If someone lays out their symptoms clearly, you can probably give them a pretty solid idea of what they might be dealing with and, more importantly, which specialist they should actually go see.
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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#23 ·
placidfox55, this "home doctor" thing isn't actually interactive... you can't even ask it, "hey, what was your thought process there?"... but hey, I guess I'll take my chances:eek
Frank Cooper3 Frank Cooper3 Member
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#24 ·
Kate Garcia2 said:Pus-filled tonsillitis appearing as one of the initial symptoms of Mono is treated with antibiotics. Since the prescription was just Ampicillin, the doctor didn't really cause any major damage if the girl actually has Mono.
So how would you treat strep throat??? Or wouldn't you treat it at all?
Get a medical degree first!!!😠

You're jumping straight to strep throat conclusions. 😁You absolutely cannot give antibiotics to someone suffering from Mononucleosis. NONE. And having pus on your tonsils doesn't automatically mean it's strep—which, unfortunately, does require antibiotics.
Lucky for me, I had a mild case of tonsillitis while dealing with Mono, so I just stuck to soft foods, stayed hydrated, and rested.
I have a friend—a smart doctor, too—who was prescribed antibiotics despite having every symptom of Mono. She ended up in the hospital.
Kate Garcia2 Kate Garcia2 Active Member
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#25 ·
The initial sign of mono, which typically surfaces about two weeks before the full onset, is often a case of strep throat caused by Group A Streptococcus. While standard antibiotics are used to treat strep, one must avoid ampicillin during a mono infection, as it can trigger a characteristic hemorrhagic rash. If the swelling becomes severe enough to obstruct breathing, corticosteroids are administered to manage the edema.

My friend would have ended up in the ER regardless. Symptoms of mono vary wildly from person to person; hospitalization isn't a necessity for everyone.

Does that clarify things?
Frank Cooper3 Frank Cooper3 Member
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#26 ·
Look, let’s get one thing straight: a case of strep throat isn't the only reason you'd end up with tonsillitis.
You can't just guess. To actually confirm if it's strep, you need a throat swab first so the doctor knows exactly which antibiotic to prescribe.
Kate Garcia2 Kate Garcia2 Active Member
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#27 ·
brightmarlin44 said:Bed rest depends entirely on how enlarged the liver is. Besides, what’s wrong with Telemedicine???😲 Pretty soon, every single diagnosis will be handled through a screen anyway... If you have a massive database containing, say, several billion patients, symptoms, illnesses, and lab results, a computer can easily calculate the odds of you having a specific disease. We are heading toward a future of pure digital diagnostics, with doctors merely acting as operators behind a monitor. 😁

In my wildest dreams, I would never dare issue a definitive diagnosis without personally examining a patient and speaking with them face-to-face.
Ultimately, the girl didn't provide anything that would lead me to a certain diagnosis. Even if she had provided all the data necessary for a diagnosis, she would have had to visit a doctor in person anyway, which covers most cases.
A human being isn't just a statistic or a data point to be processed by some software program. Every patient is an individual who cannot be reduced to a mathematical equation.
Have you ever even heard of Present Status or a medical history? Or differential diagnosis?
Of course you haven't.
Go back to sticking to your own field.
Kate Garcia2 Kate Garcia2 Active Member
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#28 ·
Frank Cooper3 said:True, but strep throat isn't the only thing that causes a bacterial infection. You can't just guess; you need a throat culture to confirm if it's actually strep before deciding which antibiotic to prescribe.

Of course, my dear 🙂
Don't we all know that a bacterial infection reveals itself through fever, elevated ESR, and blood counts showing leukocytosis paired with relative lymphopenia? And what about the culture? We wait three days for those results, so in the meantime, if the clinical markers scream "bacteria," don't we simply rely on broad-spectrum antibiotics until the lab confirms exactly what grew on the culture plate and its sensitivity profile? 😉
Frank Cooper3 Frank Cooper3 Member
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#29 ·
Are you in med school or what? 🙂
Kate Garcia2 Kate Garcia2 Active Member
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#30 ·
Graduated an eternity ago, spent years grinding in science, shuffled through family life, rushed all over the country, and nearly lost my mind. Finally escaped, and finally earned my credentials. 😉
Frank Cooper3 Frank Cooper3 Member
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#31 ·
Law of Honor 😁 Respect 🙂
Frank Cooper3 Frank Cooper3 Member
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#32 ·
Law of Honor 😁 Kudos 🙂
Nathan Smith12 Nathan Smith12 Member
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#33 ·
One of the symptoms you really have to watch out for is an allergic reaction to the antibiotics...

For me, it was actually my capillaries bursting, which left me with about a dozen nasty bruises all over my legs... just a total nightmare...

They even had to perform a lymph node biopsy on me. Honestly, I spent about two weeks feeling absolutely, bone-deep exhausted and drowsy—even though I didn't have a fever—so I basically just drifted through most of the illness like a zombie.😲
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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#34 ·
Kate Garcia2, I’ve been hearing you toss around terms like "Present Status" and "differential diagnosis." You keep bringing up statistics, acting like it’s some new discovery on your part—I assume you mean from a scientific standpoint😬 but honestly, you seem to miss the point that all medical knowledge is built on a statistical foundation. There is no science without statistics. Period. Look at research; it’s all statistical. We identify links between symptoms and diseases through data. Once researchers find that a certain symptom is pathological in the vast majority of people, we teach it as the standard for everyone. That’s how textbooks work—they take what’s been verified over, say, twenty years of studying thousands of patients. But even then, that "knowledge" is never 100% certain. As for the idea that diagnosing via computer is unreliable? If you have the full patient history and all the lab results right there on the screen, a diagnosis is absolutely possible. Sure, seeing a patient face-to-face might slightly lower the margin of error, but let’s be real: even if you’re standing right in front of them, looking at their history and every single lab report, you can still get it wrong.😠
The thing is, with that level of self-assurance you're displaying—and let me tell you, the biggest mistake a doctor can make is refusing to entertain even the slightest doubt that they might be wrong—you’re actually a danger to your patients. Plus, you clearly aren't aware that we aren't just using computers for diagnoses anymore; we use them to monitor surgical procedures, too. That is undeniably the future of medicine. A computer paired with a skilled physician equals a solid diagnosis. The machine provides the doctor with all the probabilistic data, and the doctor makes the final call.👍
I am Kate Garcia2 in my field, and I will always be available to help, whether it's in person or via Telemedicine, in whatever way I can.
granitebadger25 granitebadger25 Member
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#35 ·
brightmarlin44 said:However, your arrogance—which is the single greatest mistake a doctor can make by refusing to entertain even the slightest doubt about their own errors—makes you a danger to your patients.

I agree with this point entirely.

Besides, you clearly don't realize that we aren't just handing out diagnoses anymore; surgical procedures are being monitored via computer as well. This is undoubtedly the future of medicine. A computer combined with a skilled physician equals an accurate diagnosis...

But you have gone too far here.
Telemedicine (which is what you are describing) is merely a substitute for a consultation—an expert opinion or oversight. Computer algorithms that process lab data to generate a differential diagnosis should only serve as assistance. To attempt a diagnosis based solely on that, without a medical history or a physical examination, is nothing short of amateurism.
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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#36 ·
...unless you’re actually feeding the computer patient history along with everything else. I mean, most of what we get from a physical exam anyway—like an ultrasound, a CT scan, or an MRI—is already processed by a machine. At that point, all the software is really doing is waiting for someone to provide the interpretation.😛
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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#37 ·
Computers are already crunching way more complex problems than people give them credit for, and honestly, there isn't much stopping them from moving straight into interpreting and diagnosing stuff too. Give it another decade or so... and doctors might just end up being glorified computer monitors. We’re looking at a future where a machine scans a massive database to spit out a diagnosis in percentages, dictates the exact therapy needed, and uses DNA sequencing to flag potential illnesses before they even show up.
granitebadger25 granitebadger25 Member
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#38 ·
brightmarlin44 said:...unless you start feeding the computer patient history data alongside clinical findings—though things like ultrasounds, CT scans, or MRIs are already digitally processed anyway... all that's missing is the interpretation.😛

A "clinical examination" isn't just running tests (like an ultrasound, CT, or MRI). It’s exactly what the term implies: visual inspection, manual palpation and percussion, auscultation, and occasionally, even your sense of smell can be a diagnostic tool. 😉

Since you want to talk about diagnostics, it would be wonderful if a computer could perform, say,
a pleural puncture, or better yet, a digital rectal exam or a gastric lavage. Unfortunately, computers seem to prefer the "delicate" work. 😬

To avoid any confusion (since we're drifting off-topic regardless), computers are incredibly useful in medicine, just as they are everywhere else. They have simplified—and in some cases enabled—certain diagnostic processes, but they aren't omnipotent.
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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#39 ·
What do you think is actually more reliable here? Your own ears—you know, percussion, auscultation, the whole deal—or an ultrasound?
I mean, let's be real, you can't beat technology. No way. None of us, no matter how many years we've spent in the clinic, can match the sheer level of experience, lack of bias, or pure objectivity a computer brings to the table. Plus, they've got better memory, and honestly, some of these systems have way more logical processing power than any of us do.😬
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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#40 ·
Listen up, everyone. I've moved all your posts over to this thread: Mononucleosis. I'm locking this one down now. 🙂

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