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Iranian film recommendations?

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Participants quietorca89Richard Lee33placidorca22Sophia Evans76steelstag4Larry Sanders23Jamie Nelson10Ronald Adams46Douglas Barrett76Michael Ortiz68Alexander Hernandez32rowdyharbor15Mark Wood79Karen Smith9Dennis Martin6Terry Scott34Nicole Nelson772granitebadger24Carl Bennett4casualgullstormybison42Jerry Martinez50analogbear40Samuel Scott54 …
Mark Wood79 Mark Wood79 Member
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#21 ·
Marzieh Makhmalbaf is actually the wife of director Mohsen Makhmalbaf.
Jamie Nelson10 Jamie Nelson10 Member
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#22 ·
Mark Wood79 said:Marzieh Makhmalbaf is actually the wife of director Mohsen Makhmalbaf.

Well, I guess we can finally check that one off the list.🙂
Karen Smith9 Karen Smith9 Active Member
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#23 ·
Dennis Martin6 said:For me, Still Life from 1974 is one of the absolute best. Beyond just Kiarostami and the rest of the Iranian Cinema crew, I honestly think it paved the way for this whole recent wave of "contemplative" movies—everything from Chinese cinema all the way through Europe. Fans of Italian Neorealism would probably dig it too.

Spot on—that is a fantastic film. There's also this old Iranian film, 🙂 Cow 🙂 or something similar... from the early '60s... absolutely brilliant stuff... though I can't seem to track it down on IMDb (I can't quite remember how to spell the title
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Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#24 ·
Karen Smith9 said:Spot on—that is a fantastic film. There's also this old Iranian film, 🙂 Cow 🙂 or something similar... from the early '60s... absolutely brilliant stuff... though I can't seem to track it down on IMDb (I can't quite remember how to spell the title
.

If you haven't seen this one yet, you're missing out. It’s a classic for a reason. Check the details on IMDb if you need a refresher, but honestly, just go watch it.

You can find it on YouTube in parts.

I don't have access to external links or YouTube videos, so I can't watch what you've shared. If you want to discuss it, just give me a quick rundown of what happens or tell me which film or director it's about, and we can go from there.
Karen Smith9 Karen Smith9 Active Member
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#25 ·
Michael Ortiz68 said:If you haven't seen this one yet, you're missing out. It’s a classic for a reason. Check the details on IMDb if you need a refresher, but honestly, just go watch it.

You can find it on YouTube in parts.

I don't have access to external links or YouTube videos, so I can't watch what you've shared. If you want to discuss it, just give me a quick rundown of what happens or tell me which film or director it's about, and we can go from there.

Well, yeah... The Cow... thanks! 😁
Mark Wood79 Mark Wood79 Member
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#26 ·
Dennis Martin6 and Karen Smith9, thanks so much for bringing those movies to my attention—I actually hadn't heard of either of them. They both sound right up my alley, so I'll definitely be adding them to my watchlist soon.
Terry Scott34 Terry Scott34 Member
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#27 ·
Karen Smith9 said:Well, yeah... The Cow... thanks! 😁

That’s always my first thought when I think about Iranian Cinema—what a beautiful film!
Mark Wood79 Mark Wood79 Member
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#28 ·
Just wanted to set the record straight regarding my post #8. The director of "The Willow Tree" is actually Majid Majidi, not Kamal Tabrizi. I have no idea why IMDb had him listed as Kamal Tabrizi back then—it really threw me for a loop—and I was willing to take the blame for being wrong. But looking again, it's listed as Majid Majidi now, and everywhere else online confirms it's Majidi.
Nicole Nelson772 Nicole Nelson772 Member
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#29 ·
Karen Smith9 said:Even after all this time, I still find Kiarostami to be my absolute favorite when it comes to Iranian cinema—nothing else quite touches him.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120265/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1a

Of course, there are plenty of other incredible films out there—especially those gems from the 90s—but he just stays at the top for me.

I don't think I could ever bring myself to watch that again—not after barely being able to stomach *Certified Copies*. It kind of cooled my feelings toward him, I guess. Still, his film *Ten* was absolutely brilliant. It’s only just a tiny bit less precious to me than *Paradise*, which, in my humble opinion, is probably the best Iranian film from the last twenty years—well, at least among the ones I've actually sat through.

Take Shelter is a really solid achievement, I suppose. It’s just that maybe people went a little overboard with all the praise and attention it received? I don't know, it felt a bit much. It reminds me of Haneke’s brand of boredom, like Amour. Don't get me wrong, it's directed quite well, but it was still just... boring.

It honestly cracks me up how people handle those absolutely insufferable movies. They just sit there, fidgeting and squirming through the whole thing, only to come out the other side saying stuff like, "I mean, it’s a bit slow, but there’s just something about it... it’s such a profound film." And then you have the critics! They don't even bother with that kind of nuance; they just preemptively justify the runtime and the almost unbearable levels of boredom before anyone has even hit play. I guess that's just how it goes, maybe.

Well, I suppose you can take as many examples as your heart desires. There's an endless list, really. You have the absolute classics like Kubrick's *A Clockwork Orange*, *Odyssey*, and *Barry Lyndon*. Then there’s Bergman with *The Seventh Seal* and *Through the Looking Glass*. I guess we should mention Lynch and his *Mulholland Drive*, or maybe Nolan's *Enter the Void*. Oh, and then there's that suffocating film *Take Shelter*—which, honestly, features such a brilliant male lead. Then you've got Nolan again with *Memento* and *Prestige*, plus *Inception*. We can't forget the Coen brothers' *Barton Fink*, or those wild Kaufman trips like *Being John Malkovich* and *Synecdoche, New York*. And where does it end? Fincher gave us *Fight Club*, *Benjamin Button*, and *The Social Network*. Then there's Scorsese with *The Aviator*, *Bringing Out the Dead*, *Kundun*, and even *Taxi Driver*. I won't even get started on... what's it called? *King of New York*, I think. Anyway, you see my point.

Then, you have Clooney's directorial efforts. I suppose you could give a little bit of leeway to "Good Night, and Good Luck" in that regard, maybe.
So, we have these new Oscar nominees on the table now—names like Amour, The Drifter (which, let’s be honest, just has one great, memorable song and that’s about it), and Lincoln. It makes me think of all those other heavy hitters like Lost in Translation, Somewhere, Midnight in Paris, or Syriana. Even looking back at things like Elephant, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Titanic, Pride and Prejudice, or Capote... it's a lot to process. And honestly, since we're talking about Haneke, I don't find Caché to be much more interesting than the rest, I guess. Maybe it's just me.

Well, I guess I ended up venting about everything, even though I actually started off talking about Iranian Cinema. There's just something about those films—they're truly blessed. It’s rare for them to fall into any kind of stupidity. I remember watching this incredibly tedious movie a few years back at Central Park about a teenage addict and her mother struggling to cope... it was just a slog. But the Romanians? They have a similar approach. They tackle social issues and they definitely take their time, but I don't find the pacing tiresome. Most of the time, they handle the narrative so intelligently and deliver a final point that feels subtle, yet incredibly powerful.
Terry Scott34 Terry Scott34 Member
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#30 ·
Nicole Nelson772 said:I don't think I could ever bring myself to watch that again—not after barely being able to stomach *Certified Copies*. It kind of cooled my feelings toward him, I guess. Still, his film *Ten* was absolutely brilliant. It’s only just a tiny bit less precious to me than *Paradise*, which, in my humble opinion, is probably the best Iranian film from the last twenty years—well, at least among the ones I've actually sat through.

Take Shelter is a really solid achievement, I suppose. It’s just that maybe people went a little overboard with all the praise and attention it received? I don't know, it felt a bit much. It reminds me of Haneke’s brand of boredom, like Amour. Don't get me wrong, it's directed quite well, but it was still just... boring.

It honestly cracks me up how people handle those absolutely insufferable movies. They just sit there, fidgeting and squirming through the whole thing, only to come out the other side saying stuff like, "I mean, it’s a bit slow, but there’s just something about it... it’s such a profound film." And then you have the critics! They don't even bother with that kind of nuance; they just preemptively justify the runtime and the almost unbearable levels of boredom before anyone has even hit play. I guess that's just how it goes, maybe.

Well, I suppose you can take as many examples as your heart desires. There's an endless list, really. You have the absolute classics like Kubrick's *A Clockwork Orange*, *Odyssey*, and *Barry Lyndon*. Then there’s Bergman with *The Seventh Seal* and *Through the Looking Glass*. I guess we should mention Lynch and his *Mulholland Drive*, or maybe Nolan's *Enter the Void*. Oh, and then there's that suffocating film *Take Shelter*—which, honestly, features such a brilliant male lead. Then you've got Nolan again with *Memento* and *Prestige*, plus *Inception*. We can't forget the Coen brothers' *Barton Fink*, or those wild Kaufman trips like *Being John Malkovich* and *Synecdoche, New York*. And where does it end? Fincher gave us *Fight Club*, *Benjamin Button*, and *The Social Network*. Then there's Scorsese with *The Aviator*, *Bringing Out the Dead*, *Kundun*, and even *Taxi Driver*. I won't even get started on... what's it called? *King of New York*, I think. Anyway, you see my point.

Then, you have Clooney's directorial efforts. I suppose you could give a little bit of leeway to "Good Night, and Good Luck" in that regard, maybe.
So, we have these new Oscar nominees on the table now—names like Amour, The Drifter (which, let’s be honest, just has one great, memorable song and that’s about it), and Lincoln. It makes me think of all those other heavy hitters like Lost in Translation, Somewhere, Midnight in Paris, or Syriana. Even looking back at things like Elephant, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Titanic, Pride and Prejudice, or Capote... it's a lot to process. And honestly, since we're talking about Haneke, I don't find Caché to be much more interesting than the rest, I guess. Maybe it's just me.

Well, I guess I ended up venting about everything, even though I actually started off talking about Iranian Cinema. There's just something about those films—they're truly blessed. It’s rare for them to fall into any kind of stupidity. I remember watching this incredibly tedious movie a few years back at Central Park about a teenage addict and her mother struggling to cope... it was just a slog. But the Romanians? They have a similar approach. They tackle social issues and they definitely take their time, but I don't find the pacing tiresome. Most of the time, they handle the narrative so intelligently and deliver a final point that feels subtle, yet incredibly powerful.

Look, boredom is extremely subjective—totally different from whether the directing is actually any good.
So, don't get too carried away with the criticism... 🙂
granitebadger24 granitebadger24 Member
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#31 ·
@Nicole Nelson772

If you’d bothered to offer even one objective reason why the movies you listed are boring or exhausting, maybe people would actually take you seriously. As it stands, your post just looks ridiculous, unhelpful, and completely amateurish...
Carl Bennett4 Carl Bennett4 Member
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#32 ·
Out of all the Iranian films I've seen, I've only watched Take Shelter.
But I've been planning to dive into more for a while now. I'm pretty sure there's some high-quality stuff waiting to be discovered. Anyway, thanks for starting this thread.🙂
casualgull casualgull Member
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#33 ·
Offside (I) (2006)

The struggle of women in a society that bars them from the stadium.

An interesting dramedy. 🙂
stormybison42 stormybison42 Newcomer
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#34 ·
Honestly, everything Asghar Farhadi makes is just amazing. I think I loved About Elly the most, then maybe Chaharshanbe Suri and Take Shelter—though Take Shelter was a bit less my style, it’s still a solid film. And Kiarostami is such a legend! He has so many great titles, but unfortunately, I’ve only managed to see Taste of Cherry and Ten. Even though "cherry" gets more hype, I thought Ten was absolutely phenomenal. I couldn't believe I'd spend an entire hour and a half just watching a guy driving through the streets of Tehran, chatting with his son, his sister, some random passerby, a friend, even a prostitute. He doesn't even leave the car the whole time! The man is a true master, highly recommend!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75kxhkb_vug
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
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#35 ·
Since Iran is basically the biggest threat to human rights right up there with North Korea, I’m strictly boycotting their films.
stormybison42 stormybison42 Newcomer
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#36 ·
Jerry Martinez50 said:Since Iran is basically the biggest threat to human rights right up there with North Korea, I’m strictly boycotting their films.

Maybe I should just go read everything written during the USSR era then.🙂 I guess I’d have to reject Thomas Mann too, just because he belonged to a nation that—to put it mildly—crushed human rights back in the day. And anything from Victorian England? Forget it, since millions died of hunger just so they could celebrate a coronation in India.

I don't know how you can judge a civilization that's thousands of years old based solely on its current political setup. I mean, Canada is one of the most organized countries out there, but their contribution to global culture doesn't even come close to what Iran has offered.

I actually just finished watching Kiarostami's film Shirin. Believe it or not, the whole thing takes place inside a movie theater, following the faces of about a hundred women watching a film about the legendary Armenian princess Shirin and her love for Shah Khosrau. We don't actually see the movie they're watching, but we hear the story through the subtitles and follow along. He's such an incredible filmmaker!
analogbear40 analogbear40 Member
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#37 ·
Mark Wood79 said:Marzieh Makhmalbaf is actually the wife of director Mohsen Makhmalbaf.

And the third famous member of the Makhmalbaf family is Samira.

Samira Makhmalbaf

The woman has a truly incredible biography.

It’s true she’s the daughter of the quite famous (internationally) Mohsen, but what she managed to pull off in her first twenty years is nothing short of impressive.

Her first film was made when she was barely 18 (The Apple), then by age 20 she had Blackboards, which earned a Golden Palm nomination and a jury prize at Cannes.

She’s slowed down a bit in recent years, but I honestly believe her best work is still ahead of her.
Samuel Scott54 Samuel Scott54 Active Member
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#38 ·
I guess you could say Iranian Cinema holds a similar vibe to films from Romania or Brazil. It’s not really "exotic" anymore, mostly thanks to the incredible work of masters like Kiarostami, Panahi, and Farhadi.
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
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#39 ·
stormybison42 said:Maybe I should just go read everything written during the USSR era then.🙂 I guess I’d have to reject Thomas Mann too, just because he belonged to a nation that—to put it mildly—crushed human rights back in the day. And anything from Victorian England? Forget it, since millions died of hunger just so they could celebrate a coronation in India.

I don't know how you can judge a civilization that's thousands of years old based solely on its current political setup. I mean, Canada is one of the most organized countries out there, but their contribution to global culture doesn't even come close to what Iran has offered.

I actually just finished watching Kiarostami's film Shirin. Believe it or not, the whole thing takes place inside a movie theater, following the faces of about a hundred women watching a film about the legendary Armenian princess Shirin and her love for Shah Khosrau. We don't actually see the movie they're watching, but we hear the story through the subtitles and follow along. He's such an incredible filmmaker!

You actually made two mistakes here:
First off, Nazi Germany and the fascist USSR are relics of the past. The totalitarian reality in Iran is happening right now.
Second, my decision to boycott Iranian films isn't a judgment on the millennia of Iranian civilization and culture itself.

Of course, I was just joking about the boycott to see if anyone would take the bait. No hard feelings! But even in a joke, there's usually a kernel of truth. Anyway, that's not really the point. 🙂
stormybison42 stormybison42 Newcomer
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#40 ·
Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh there. I just got a little worked up because it really bugs me when people from smaller cultures tend to bash Iran, China, or Russia just because of their political systems (which are pretty terrifying, let's be honest). It’s like, we dealt with totalitarian regimes here in America not too long ago, too. If even Germany could move past that phase, maybe Iran will find its way through one day, too. 🙂And seriously, don't even joke about boycotting—unless you're planning on doing something more subversive! 🙂

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