Swelling after a question?

About three weeks ago, a friend of mine had a bit of a mishap when someone missed the vein while giving him an IV. Since then, there’s been this swelling—maybe 2 or 3 cm wide—right at the injection site. At first, the lump was actually pretty painful, but now the tenderness has subsided, leaving just the swelling without any redness or ache.
Should he head to a doctor to get it checked out, or is this just one of those things that clears up on its own?

Thanks in advance!

A granuloma has formed in the tissue now... how this develops depends entirely on that garbage you keep shoving into your system along with the heroin. It could turn into scar tissue, or it could undergo necrosis. Given that the dose almost certainly wasn't sterile, there's also the risk of infection from some very nasty microorganisms.

Now that your friend sees what this looks like, he should keep in mind that the exact same thing is happening in his lungs, heart valves, lymph nodes, and so on... and it happens again after every single dop. He ought to think about that.

Considering he still can't even hit a vein, maybe he hasn't been an addict for that long... perhaps this would be the right time to seek treatment... not just for the granuloma on his arm, but for the addiction in general.

So, you really think this is going to work? Like, actually fizzle out on its own over time? Please... this isn't my lane. This is just some service-related post.

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It’s never going to fully subside... at best, if it doesn't turn necrotic, you're left with a lump... probably smaller than what's there now, but it's staying

If you're talking about a friend, do your part and talk some sense into them about getting help

before it’s too late.

It’s not about him having a screw loose... it’s more like he’s running on empty upstairs...

granitebadger25 said:If you're really looking out for a buddy, just try to gently nudge them toward getting some professional help.

Better jump on this while there's still a chance.

Honestly, who even cares about them? After working in healthcare for all these years and seeing people fighting tooth and nail just to save their lives or get healthy again, I’ve just lost all respect for addicts—it honestly makes my stomach turn.
Honestly, nobody’s actually dim enough these days to not realize whether that’s a good move or a bad one. And if they still choose to go out and do drugs anyway? Well, they can just take their problems somewhere else and leave us out of it.
Honestly, whenever we’re stuck spending hours—sometimes even days—stabilizing some idiot who overdosed, I just want to pull them aside once they finally wake up and give them some friendly advice. I tell them that instead of looking for their next fix, they might want to just find a reliable handgun and get it over with. And I'm not talking about aiming for the temple, because you might actually survive that; if you really want to ensure the job is done right, go straight for the mouth.
I know it’s probably not exactly the most polite thing to say about holiday traditions, but I just can't stand Christmas trees—they honestly just gross me out.🙂

Amanda Turner70 and Scott Allen10
Here is my take on the matter:

Most people fall into this during their teenage years, when they are still naive and easily swayed by peer pressure.

At that age, most individuals make mistakes that aren't particularly bright, but those errors can usually be corrected.
The problem is, when you're dealing with drugs, there isn't much chance for a comeback.

To me, losing a young person is a tragedy, regardless of whether they were an addict or not.

As for the individual mentioned in the previous post, someone should have convinced him to seek treatment; looking at how he can't even find a vein, one has to wonder how long he's been using.
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Scott Allen10 said:Who actually gives a damn about them? After years of working in healthcare, dealing face-to-face every single day with people fighting tooth and nail just to save their own health and lives... I honestly find junkies repulsive.
Nobody living in this day and age is stupid or illiterate enough to not realize whether drugs are a good thing or a bad thing. So if they choose to get high despite knowing better... they can go deal with their own mess somewhere else.
Every time I have to stabilize some idiot who overdosed—spending hours or even days trying to bring them back to the land of the living—I make sure to give them a very friendly suggestion once they finally wake up. Instead of chasing the next hit, maybe try using a handgun... and don't aim for the temple, because you might actually survive that. Aim for the mouth; it’s a much more "guaranteed" way to get the job done.
It might not be the height of medical professionalism, but frankly, I just can't stand junkies.🙂

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Scott Allen10 said:Who’s kidding themselves? After years working in healthcare, seeing people fight tooth and nail just to stay alive... I have zero patience for junkies.
Nobody is stupid enough today to not realize if what they're doing is good or bad. If someone chooses to do it anyway... they can deal with their own mess somewhere else.
Every time some idiot overdoses on my watch and we spend hours or days stabilizing them until they finally wake up, I tend to give them a friendly suggestion. Instead of chasing the next high, maybe try using a gun. Not even aiming for the temple—that's too risky. Aim for the mouth. At least then you know the job is done.
It might not be the height of medical etiquette, but frankly, I find junkies repulsive.🙂

I don't even want to touch this post. Who exactly is causing the "mess" here?
There are plenty of self-destructive things people do. They might not care at first, but if they have any sense, they'll eventually try to fix those habits.
Do you think it's okay when some drunk makes a fool of himself and harasses everyone in town? Is it okay when a drunk driver kills a child? Or look at how many people smoke, poisoning themselves and everyone standing near them. Personally, I don't smoke, and I can't stand people who do—having to breathe in their stench while they ruin their own health. They poison themselves and everyone in their orbit, and what do they actually do about it? It's heartbreaking to see a kid sitting in a room filled with secondhand smoke because of their parents.
I'm not trying to defend anyone here, but my friend doesn't hurt anyone, doesn't poison the air around him, and isn't aggressive like most people get when they're high.
I'm not interested in debating what's better or worse... anything an individual does that negatively impacts themselves and their community isn't right. But we aren't here to act as judge and jury. Look in the mirror before you start pointing fingers at others.
I hope I haven't offended anyone; that wasn't my intention.

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sorry Sun, I wasn't actually aiming this at you. You’re spot on about both the smokers and the drinkers, I'm right there with you. It’s just that I have a bit of a visceral reaction to people like your colleague here.
I was just sharing my take on addicts. If someone can't stomach it, well, that's their business, not mine. When someone like that passes away—and honestly, they usually pull through if they make it to the ER in time—I don't find myself feeling much sympathy, because at the end of the day, they made those choices for themselves.
Don't get me wrong, I'll still be the one intubating them, hitting them with the Annex, or running a gastric lavage or hemodialysis if the situation calls for it... but man... I just find it hard to stomach, you know? They're fully aware of what they're doing, ruthlessly destroying their own lives and dragging everyone else down with them, and with how obvious the drug scene is these days, there's really no excuse...

Dana Sullivan said:Look, I’m not trying to play devil’s advocate here, but my buddy at least isn't out there picking fights or poisoning everyone around him—he isn't some aggressive wreck like most people get when they're high.

Maybe his relatives are just being soft on him, but let's be real—families of addicts go through hell, and it leaves a permanent scar on your soul. These excuses about him "not being aggressive" or "not bothering anyone with smoke" are honestly a joke. I’d bet anything that he—and his whole family—would much rather deal with an aggressive sports fanatic getting into bar fights or someone smoking three packs a day than what he's dealing with right now. And that bit about him not "poisoning" anyone? Just wait until his health hits rock bottom. Once his immune system tanks and he picks up some nasty infection, you'll see—he'll basically be a walking petri dish.

There’s one thing I just can't wrap my head around here.

I mean, obviously, if this guy isn't even remotely concerned about his own life or his health while he's out there slamming heroin, then why on earth is he losing his mind over some random lump that popped up on his hand?
It’s pretty hilarious to think his hands are actually looking great, considering how much he's shooting up. 😕

He probably saw Requiem for a Dream, where one of the main characters ends up with a rotting hand that they have to amputate.

Kenneth Hernandez67 said:He probably saw some indie horror flick where a main character's hand starts rotting away and they have to amputate it just to survive.

hehe, I was actually just about to bring up that "cinematic" moment...😱

Amanda Turner70 said:Maybe your friend's relatives don't care, but addiction hits families hard—it really tears at people. All those excuses about him not being aggressive or not harming others by smoking are pretty ridiculous. I bet both he and his family would much rather deal with an aggressive sports fan getting into fights after a game or someone smoking three packs a day than what he’s become. And as for not poisoning anyone nearby, just wait until his immune system tanks and he picks up something nasty while walking around like a mobile petri dish.

👍 yeah...

And it's definitely not true that addicts aren't violent. When they run out of drugs, they can snap and get desperate enough to do anything for cash. If you even suggest they take a drug test while they're crashing, they might actually attack you. They aren't the same person they were before they started. That's just reality.

Credit to the ones who actually try to get clean. It’s a brutal, lifelong struggle. Staying clean for a few months or even two years doesn't mean much if the mental side isn't handled, because one bad slip-up and they're right back at square one. Sadly, there are fewer people actually fighting it than those who don't realize what they're doing—or maybe they do, they just don't have the strength to fight.

As for me... when I read about some addict overdosing, I don't feel bad. They're weak. I'm not saying the rest of us are perfect, but they're especially weak. Escaping reality that way is the easy way out. I also think they're incredibly selfish and irresponsible. What am I supposed to do, pour my life into someone like that? Probably not, even if they were my own blood. I don't feel any sympathy for them. Not one bit. Now, someone will probably say "they need community support," and sure, maybe that helps some, but usually it doesn't. No one can make you see you're making mistakes until you realize it yourself. Until it finally clicks in their head that it's time to stop this crap, they won't do anything. You can tell them "get help, look at what you're doing, you're going to kill yourself," blah blah blah—it won't matter.

Honestly, I get why Scott Allen10 feels the way he does. I didn't used to think like this, but seeing certain things firsthand really changed my perspective on the whole issue.