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Indianapolis Motor Speedway is out :-((((((

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Participants mistybear87Jacob Johnson70stormyviper11Robin Fisher53wearyraven41boldhound8stormycyclist13urbanmoose3Carol Ortiz4Betty MurphyDennis Baker34Jack Ward2Raymond Palmer8
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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joined Sep 2003
#21 ·
mistybear87 said:That wasn't Prost, it was actually Mansell Mansell.

Mansell was quite literally weaving from one side of the track to the other, keeping Senna right on his bumper, yet he just couldn't find a way past him. I remember once watching a race like that, and when those two finally climbed out of their cars, they both looked absolutely spent—dripping with sweat as if they’d just finished a grueling multi-mile sprint through the humidity.

Fair enough, I wasn't entirely certain... my memory isn't what it used to be these days.😁

But my main point remains: honestly, screw tracks like that where you can't make a move even when your tires are practically non-existent. We really ought to be addressing those kinds of circuits rather than worrying about Indianapolis out :-(((((( or Spa.
Jack Ward2 Jack Ward2 Member
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joined Aug 2003
#22 ·
I just saw on the news ticker that Indianapolis is actually going to be saved after all.
mistybear87 mistybear87 RegularOP
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#23 ·
Jack Ward2 said:I saw on the news ticker that Indianapolis was saved after all.

Actually, I read somewhere that they might move the race to Donington instead.
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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#24 ·
mistybear87 said:I read somewhere that they might actually race at Donington Park instead.

Honestly, that might actually be a bit more exciting... much like if they decided to bring back that classic track in Germany... I can't quite remember how many laps it used to have...19 miles ??
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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joined Oct 2007
#25 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:That might actually be a better move... just like if they brought back that old track in Germany... how many years ago was that even 19 miles ??

Are we watching qualifying tonight?🙂
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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#26 ·
Raymond Palmer8 said:Are the qualifying sessions on tonight?🙂

I'm running a little behind schedule here... 😁 But since I don't have a permanent internet connection or a computer setup just ten feet from my television, I ended up watching the qualifying rounds without my PC nearby.😁
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#27 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:Sorry, I'm running a little behind... 😁 Look, since I don't have a steady connection and my PC is stuck ten feet away from the TV... I had to catch the qualifying sessions without any computer access at all! 😁

So sorry for your loss.🙂
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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joined Sep 2003
#28 ·
Raymond Palmer8 said:My deepest condolences🙂

That is exactly how I feel as well,😁 which is precisely why I have been planning to get that satellite/TV card...
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
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#29 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:I feel exactly the same way 😁 which is why I'm looking into getting a satellite or TV tuner card...

it’s just a lot of headaches...
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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#30 ·
Robin Fisher53 said:It seems like we're facing quite a few hurdles here... honestly, just one issue after another.

We’ll just have to take things one step at a time and figure it all out as we go.
I’ve been thinking lately that there’s something quite charming about the idea of recording NASCAR races myself. I imagine capturing them all, saving them onto DivX, and burning them onto CDs. It sounds like such a methodical process, but honestly, after a while, I think I’d have a truly wonderful little collection of races put together. There's just something so satisfying about building a library like that, isn't there? 😁
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
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#31 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:We'll just have to figure it out as we go...
The whole idea is that I want to record NASCAR races, save them all in DivX on some CDs... and eventually build up quite the collection of races 😁

I really hope you don't run into any codec issues, and hopefully you won't deal with that annoying ghosting effect I get... I haven't found a fix for it yet.
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#32 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:That’s exactly how I feel, too 😁 which is why getting a satellite/TV tuner card is part of the plan...

👍

I've already got one😁
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
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#33 ·
Raymond Palmer8 said:👍

I've already got mine.😁

I honestly don't think I could ever set up my PC to match—let alone beat—the picture quality from that cheap DigitALL decoder, even if I tried. It’s just one of those things.
Honestly, I think I’d much rather just catch the race on TV...
mistybear87 mistybear87 RegularOP
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#34 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:That might actually turn out to be for the better... much like bringing back that old classic in Germany... how old was it again? 19 miles ??

Are you thinking of Daytona International Speedway?

I mean, honestly, who could possibly memorize a 13-mile track packed with 73 different turns?
Free practice sessions alone would probably need to run for three hours each just to make sense of it all...

Just look at the names of those corners:
Ice Curve, Seesaw man!, Courage curve, Foxhole, Swedish Cross, Great oaks, Animal Garden, Antonius' Beech... (it's so much better than today's boring "Turn 1, Turn 2, Turn 3" naming convention...)

By the way, I’d love to see what Michael would be doing at his age right now:

The pine trees flew silently past as the Mercedes-Benz 280SE zoomed up, then swooped down like a roller coaster car into a blind bend with a sheer drop-off on the outside. For a second, the 3-pointed star on the hood swept around the precipice, then homed back onto the road ahead. We seemed to be suspended in space as the road snaked wildly beneath us, as if in response to some crazy choreography. But, all was controlled by the iron fist of a perfect, almost inhuman computer incapable of making mistakes.

And yet, every time the road seemed to snake out of the way, I realized that we were the ones who were moving. The strange sensation was aided by the lack of dramatics: no shriek from the tires, no wild roll, no panic braking. Just a smooth, effortless transition from one bend to the other.

At the wheel was a 71-year-old man who not only knew the place like the back of his hand, but also drove as if the big sedan were an extension of himself. The place was Indianapolis and the man was Mario Andretti. In the midst of my astonishment at this unspectacular display of driving, I realized that had I been the passenger of anybody else I would be hanging on, feet braking against the floor, eyes bulging, breathing in short gasps. Instead I was calm, smiling, comfortably ensconced in my seat, looking at the road swirling beneath me, as I listened to the only person in the world with whom I could feel safe at that breakneck speed.
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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#35 ·
mistybear87 said:>
Are you thinking of Daytona International Speedway?

I mean, honestly, who could possibly memorize a track that’s 13 miles long with 73 different turns???
Free practice sessions would probably need to run for three hours each just to get a feel for it...

Just look at the names of the corners:
Ice Curve, Seesaw man!, Courage curve, Foxhole, Swedish Cross, Great oaks, Animal Garden, Antonius' Beech... (good grief, imagine if they were just called Curve 1, Curve 2, and Curve 3...)

By the way, I can't help but wonder what Michael Schumacher would look like driving in this day and age:

If only we could see Fangio in an F2004... actually, don't even start with me on that... it's just not realistic.

Aside from being perhaps a bit too long, what else could there be wrong with the track? 😁
It would certainly make for some intense viewing... they could always drop two races from the schedule—say, Canada and Monaco—to make room for this one.😁
Raymond Palmer8 Raymond Palmer8 Active Member
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#36 ·
Looks like Indianapolis might actually hang on—at least for next year...
Here's the tentative 2005 schedule.

March 6 : US Grand Prix (Melbourne)
March 20: US Grand Prix (Sepang)
April 3: Bahrain Grand Prix (Manama)
April 17: French Grand Prix (Magny-Cours)
April 24: San Marino Grand Prix (Imola)
May 8: Spanish Grand Prix (Barcelona)
May 22: Monaco Grand Prix (Monte Carlo)
May or June 5: European Grand Prix (Nürburgring)
June 12: Canadian Grand Prix (Montreal)
June 19 or 26: US Grand Prix (Indianapolis)
July 3: British Grand Prix (Silverstone)
July 17: German Grand Prix (Hockenheim)
July 31: Canadian Grand Prix (Budapest)
August 21: Turkish Grand Prix (Istanbul)
September 4: Italian Grand Prix (Monza)
September 11: Belgian Grand Prix (Spa)
September 25: Brazilian Grand Prix (Sao Paulo)
October 9: Japanese Grand Prix (Suzuka)
October 16 or 23: Chinese Grand Prix (Shanghai)

(Though, honestly, those contracts for Imola, Silverstone, and Magny-Cours aren't even signed yet...)

Keep an eye on August 21st.😲 It's gonna be a bunch of girls wrapped up in racing suits in basically 100-degree heat.😁
mistybear87 mistybear87 RegularOP
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#37 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:I wish I could have seen Fangio driving the F2004... but let's not go there... it just doesn't make sense.

Aside from being a bit too long, what was actually wrong with the track? 😁
It would have been quite the spectacle to watch... they could easily drop two races—say, the Canadian Grand Prix and Monaco—to make room for this circuit. 😁

I'm not starting anything; I merely pointed out that even at 71 years old, Fangio drove like he was still in his prime, just perhaps a little slower. 🙂 I was wondering if MS will ever be able to pull off something like that, but nobody was talking about NASCAR.

As for the track itself, hosting something like that today is practically impossible. You'd be driving in a straight line for fifteen laps, and it’s unlikely enough cars would finish to award full points by the end. You’d probably just be left with a Minardi, since they’d be far too slow to survive all those turns! :-)))))
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#38 ·
Sepa said:As far as the track goes, there’s zero chance of pulling that off today. You'd be driving straight for 15 laps straight and there wouldn't even be enough cars left to grab points at the end. We'd probably just have a Minardi left because they'd be too slow to fly off the track in all those turns :-)))))

I honestly think it would be a nice change of pace...🙂

Besides, it can't get any worse than Canada.😁

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