FIFA Club World Cup at Nova

What’s so funny? It’s pretty obvious you didn't watch the '94 World Cup. Or the Olympics in Atlanta. Or even the two Women's World Cups. You don't see unsold tickets at those kinds of events. Back in '94, they were averaging 68,000 people. Meanwhile, over in Europe, some of the stadiums at the EP are looking half-empty during matches.

brightscout63 said:Clearly you didn't catch the Olympics in Atlanta.

Please. At the closing ceremony for those games, even the OO president at the time—Samaranch—didn't claim they were the best ever. The US totally tanked it.

bluntman said:Give me a break. At the closing ceremony of those Games, the UN president at the time—Samaranch—didn't even claim they were the best yet. The Americans totally embarrassed themselves.

He couldn't say that because of that whole bombing mess and the voting scandal. Seventy thousand people watched that soccer final. That’s my context. And after that disaster in Athens, it's hard to give any organizer much credit. Especially when it comes to Olympics held in the US. Sure, they're the only ones with enough cash to actually pull off something perfect... 😁

robybaggio said:Why on earth are you laughing? It’s pretty obvious you didn't watch the '94 WC, or even the Olympics in Atlanta. Or even the last two Women's WCs. Those stadiums aren't exactly sitting there with empty seats during those tournaments. Back in '94, they were averaging 68,000 people. Meanwhile, over in Europe, you see half-empty stadiums during some EC matches.

It's true, the stadiums at the Women's WC were completely packed.

But I suppose one thing puzzles me—just how much money are sponsors actually bleeding these clubs dry for to get them there? Because I'm fairly certain an AC Milan vs. Manchester United match would fill up Yankee Stadium or the Rose Bowl without any trouble. We'd just need to find enough cash to pay them.🙄

nimblemarlin17 said:He couldn't say anything because of that whole bomb mess and the voting scandal.

Nah, he said it because those Olympics were a total circus. I don't know if you recall, but every single headline started with disaster... fiasco... madness.... The US looked pretty bad back then. They didn't really redeem themselves until Salt Lake City.
You're kind of obsessed with Americans...

It’s honestly surreal living in this absolute mess called America. I spent two months out there and was genuinely blown away by their sports scene. When it comes to athletics, they are two millennia ahead of us. We just survive on these random flashes of individual brilliance instead of actually doing the work.

And let’s be real—how is an AC Milan-Manchester United matchup ever going to pack out the Rose Bowl or Yankee Stadium when Yankee Stadium couldn't even fill the seats back when they were playing Milan or Manchester United?

nimblemarlin17 said:It’s not surprising, honestly, living in this total mess called America. I spent two months over there and was blown away by their sports scene. They're about 2000 years ahead of us. We basically just live off random flashes of brilliance instead of actually doing the work.

And yeah, how is an AC Milan-Manchester United matchup supposed to pack out the Rose Bowl or Yankee Stadium when Yankee Stadium couldn't even fill up back when they were playing Milan or Manchester?

Please, don't even compare them to us!
It really bugs 😁 me when you claim the vibe at American stadiums is better than, say, the European Championship. For me, a packed stadium in England or Italy with 30,000 people will always beat a massive crowd of 150,000 at the Rose Bowl. At least people here actually cheer. Over there, all you hear is:
munch munch, crunch crunch, woo!, yeah!, munch munch...
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Those are just prejudices. Especially for us Europeans. During a Euro classic, they make a little noise at the start and then everyone just goes silent. The only ones who sing the whole time are the English, constantly chanting that same old "Na nananana, England" nonsense. That isn't even real cheering. Those crazy Korean fans were way better. You could actually tell they were obsessed with football.

nimblemarlin17 said:That’s just bias, man. Especially for us Europeans.

Hardly. A buddy of mine caught a few baseball games in St. Louis. Says about 75% of the time, absolutely nothing is happening. People are just snacking, strolling around, and chilling, then suddenly someone yells and the whole stadium jumps up to cheer. Half the crowd doesn't even know what just happened. 😁

My friend's always complaining, but I actually buy it. 😁

nimblemarlin17 said:I don't get why you're laughing. It’s pretty obvious you weren't paying attention during the '94 World Cup, or even the Olympics in Atlanta. Hell, look at the Women's World Cups—they sell out every single time. Back in '94, they were pulling averages of 68,000 people per match. Meanwhile, over in Europe, you see stadiums sitting half-empty during certain matches of the European Championship.

It’s easy for them to pull those numbers when they have a population of 250 million backing them up.😁>

urbanmoose3 said:Must be nice having 250 million people backing you up. 😁

Sure, but they aren't all concentrated in one spot. 😁

And where on earth did you get baseball from, brightscout63? That sport is basically built for nerds and guys selling peanuts in the stands. There’s no real atmosphere at a baseball game by definition. You can't compare it to soccer. Take American football—the energy is incredible, especially during the season when home-field advantage actually matters. You even get those massive stadium shows. 😁

Honestly, last night was just pathetic. Both teams looked completely lost out there. The matchup between the Lakers and the Celtics was five times better than this garbage. 😁

brightscout63 said:In soccer, you at least know when to tell the ref to go screw himself. In baseball, there are so many damn rules you can't even tell when it's time to flip him off.😁

Look, I pretty much know most of the rules. The only things people actually fight about is whether a guy got ejected or if it was a ball or a strike. 😁

Honestly, those tournaments held across the US and Asia where the "big names" show up just to rake in the cash aren't even worth your time, you can just skip them entirely, because why bother? But seriously, what on earth was that tonight? What is even happening with this Manchester United squad... I mean, what kind of game was that? If I were some random guy living in the States, I’d probably start thinking soccer is the most mind-numbingly boring sport on the planet after watching a performance like that.

And just one little request—please, for the love of everything, stop comparing those hardcore fans over in Europe to these soft American pushovers... honestly, that comparison isn't even funny.

Uranus said:All these tournaments in the US and Asia where the "big names" show up just to cash in aren't even worth watching. But what on earth was that tonight? What kind of pathetic display was that... what kind of game was that? Even if I were an Amer, I’d think soccer was ultra-boring after seeing a match like this.

And one thing—stop comparing European fans to those soft American snowflakes... it’s not even funny.

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