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Who is to blame for how boring F1 has become?

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Participants Raymond Carter2Charles Martin78Elizabeth HughesRobin Fisher53James Roberts87Betty Murphyboldhound8mistybear87urbanmoose3rapidtinker45Terry Carter2Henry Anderson47
Betty Murphy Betty Murphy Active Member
145 messages
joined Apr 2003
#21 ·
Well, that was another incredibly engaging season—if not right up until the final race, then certainly until the penultimate one. Here is the breakdown:
2003 Season Review

Grand Prix Date Winning Driver Team Laps Time

Australian 09/03/2003 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 58 1:34:42.124

Malaysian 23/03/2003 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 56 1:32:22.195

Brazilian 06/04/2003 Giancarlo Fisichell Jordan-Ford 54 1:31:17.748

San Marino 20/04/2003 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 62 1:28:12.058

Spanish 04/05/2003 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 65 1:33:46.933

Austrian 18/05/2003 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 69 1:24:04.888

Monaco 01/06/2003 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 78 1:42:19.010

Canadian 15/06/2003 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 70 1:31:13.591

European 29/06/2003 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 60 1:34:43.622

French 06/07/2003 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 70 1:30:49.213

British 20/07/2003 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 60 1:28:37.554

German 03/08/2003 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 67 1:28:48.769

Canadian 24/08/2003 Fernando Alonso Renault 70 1:39:01.460

Italian 14/09/2003 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 53 1:14:19.838

United States 28/09/2003 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 73 1:33:35.997

Japanese 12/10/2003 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 53 1:25:11.743

2003 Constructors Championship

Pos Constructor Points

1 Ferrari 158

2 Williams-BMW 144

3 McLaren-Mercedes 142

4 Renault 88

5 BAR-Honda 26

6 Sauber-Petronas 19

7 Jaguar-Cosworth 18

8 Toyota 16

9 Jordan-Ford 13

2003 Drivers Championship

Pos Driver Nationality Team Points

1 Michael Schumacher German Ferrari 93

2 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish McLaren-Mercedes 91

3 Juan Pablo Montoya Colombian Williams-BMW 82

4 Rubens Barrichello Brazilian Ferrari 65

5 Ralf Schumacher German Williams-BMW 58

6 Fernando Alonso Spanish Renault 55

7 David Coulthard British McLaren-Mercedes 51

8 Jarno Trulli Italian Renault 33
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
437 messages
joined Oct 2007
#22 ·
It’s tough to give a straight answer, but honestly? I’m betting on Ferrari's raw power and reliability.👍

FJBG
Mr.Ex.President😁
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
406 messages
joined Nov 2010
#23 ·
James Roberts87 said:Montoya was also gunning for the title, but he completely embarrassed himself at Indianapolis when he couldn't even stay on the same lap as Schumacher during that rainstorm.

Are you really going to blame him for that? He was called into the pits way too late, forcing him to drive an entire lap through standing water on slicks meant for a dry track.
i if my memory serves me right, he ended up cutting across the grass along with a few other drivers ahead of him...
urbanmoose3 urbanmoose3 Active Member
58 messages
joined Sep 2005
#24 ·
It’s all Mihajlo's fault, really. He should have just walked away from Formula 1 right then and there, immediately after clinching that sixth world title...
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
61 messages
joined Mar 2011
#25 ·
mistybear87 said:Are you trying to say they called him into the pits way too early, forcing him to drive an entire lap through knee-deep water on dry tires?
And if I remember right, he was driving through the grass alongside a few other drivers ahead of him...

Montoya definitely spent more time on the grass than on the actual track there. I distinctly recall the commentator mentioning how Montoya cut onto the grass and Mark Webber actually thought that was the intended line.🙂
I can't be 100% sure if it was Webber, but man, it was hilarious.
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
108 messages
joined Jul 2004
#26 ·
Ferrari FJBG mr. ex said:It's tough to say for sure, but I'm betting on Ferrari's raw power and reliability.👍

FJBG
Mr.Ex.President😁

That's exactly what I'm thinking too.
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
108 messages
joined Jul 2004
#27 ·
Robin Fisher53, I’m dying to know where you're even pulling these stats from.
Betty Murphy Betty Murphy Active Member
145 messages
joined Apr 2003
#28 ·
Robin Fisher53 said:Hey, I'm really curious where you find all this data.

It’s from a site that's almost impossible to track down specifically for Formula 1.😁 Of course, you can always check www.formula1.com or grab McLaren info at www.mclaren.com. However, if you want the deep-dive technical details, you usually have to become a member, which costs about 50 bucks—roughly what you'd spend on a nice piece of team merchandise. Alternatively, you can just look through some unofficial sites if you know where to look.😁
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
108 messages
joined Jul 2004
#29 ·
Robin Fisher53 said:It's almost impossible to find that specific page about Formula 1.😁 Obviously, you can check www.formula1.com or look at the McLaren site www.mclaren.com, but if you want the deep-dive stats on McLaren, you have to pay for a membership. It's like 50 bucks—basically the price of some cheap merch—unless you just hit up some hacker sites to find the passwords.😁

Alright. I usually just stick to f1-live for updates. Didn't realize f1.com actually carried all those detailed stats.
rapidtinker45 rapidtinker45 Member
18 messages
joined Jul 2008
#30 ·
Honestly, I’d take those old-school rules from back in 2000 any day, especially when it comes to qualifying. With these new formats, I can't even bring myself to watch the first 20 minutes!
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#31 ·
I’m watching this and I am absolutely losing my mind!
Who is actually responsible for this sheer boredom in Formula 1?
I honestly get the feeling that this lack of excitement is being artificially forced down our throats!
It’s like asking why the sky turned purple—it makes zero sense!

😁
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
60 messages
joined Nov 2015
#32 ·
Robin Fisher53 said:It’s nearly impossible to find the right page for F1 stuff.😁 Obviously, you can check www.formula1.com or look at the McLaren stats on www.mclaren.com. But if you want those deep-dive details on the McLaren site, you usually have to sign up for a membership. It'll run you about 50 bucks—roughly what you'd spend on some team souvenir—unless you know where to look on certain hacker sites for passwords.😁

Or you could just try your luck with Sentry or Accessdiver using a solid wordlist and a few hundred proxies.🙂
Betty Murphy Betty Murphy Active Member
145 messages
joined Apr 2003
#33 ·
rapidtinker45 said:I honestly wish they would bring back the rules from 2000, at least when it comes to qualifying. I can't even bring myself to watch the first 20 minutes of these new sessions anymore.

I’m honestly a bit stunned by how that schedule looks. Don't you realize that way, you'd never even know which sponsors were backing Minardi or Jordan? At least this way, you can actually sit back and enjoy watching Pantan set those "lightning-fast" lap times in peace. 😁
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
60 messages
joined Nov 2015
#34 ·
Robin Fisher53 said:I’m honestly a bit stunned by that attitude. I mean, are you actually aware that if things go that way, you’d never even find out who the sponsors for Minardi and Jordan are? This way, at least you can sit back and enjoy watching Pantan set those "lightning fast" laps in peace. 😁

RTL always blasts commercials whenever they're on screen... and even the geniuses over at the network decided we wouldn't mind if the ads ran a little longer since it's just Minardi racing now.🙂
They might actually stand a better chance if they teamed up; if Minardi could pull off a little interference against Ferrari or McLaren, they might actually show up on the clock for a second.🙂
Henry Anderson47 Henry Anderson47 Active Member
94 messages
joined Aug 2004
#35 ·
I was actually voting for that last one, just so you guys don't end up fighting over whose single vote it was. hi hi hi
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
108 messages
joined Jul 2004
#36 ·
Vin Diesel said:I voted for that last option, so don't go losing sleep over whose vote it was. Heh.

I’d also vote for letting us pick more than one answer.

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