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Will Formula 1 lose much with Max Mosley's departure?

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Participants Raymond Carter2wearyraven41James Roberts87boldhound8urbanmoose3Robin Fisher53Charles Martin78Elizabeth HughesBetty Murphyambermoose12Carol Ortiz4
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
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#21 ·
Blackbird said:Correction... I can't say anything until they're running roughly the same car... you're getting old with this one, man... even Elizabeth Hughes told you that, and at least she's rooting for Michael, just with a bit more realism...

Back in France, General Motors was faster, but Ross Brown’s brilliant strategy proved masterclass once again. They have competitive cars; it’s not our fault if they're slow.
When McLaren had a noticeably better car than Ferrari, everyone stayed quiet. Now that Ferrari is dominating in style, suddenly everyone is complaining.
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
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#22 ·
Blackbird said:Correction... I can't really say anything until they're running roughly the same car... you're getting a bit tedious with this, man... even Elizabeth Hughes told you that, and she’s actually rooting for Michael, so at least she's being somewhat realistic...

Maybe... but at least it's grounded in reality, unlike that totally delusional anti-stance of yours....
Betty Murphy Betty Murphy Active Member
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#23 ·
James Roberts87 said:Back when they were racing in France, General Motors definitely had more raw speed, but Ross Brown’s brilliant strategic approach proved masterful once again. Their cars are perfectly competitive; it's just unfortunate they can't find that extra pace.
It’s funny how things work—when McLaren had a noticeably superior car compared to Ferrari, everyone stayed quiet. But now that Ferrari is dominating the field, suddenly everyone is complaining.

I expect it will be the exact same story when McLaren finds their edge again. Everyone will go silent, except for you Ferrari fans who will likely start calling for new rule changes, much like that famous crackdown on engine materials back in 2000!
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
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#24 ·
Anđeo said:It’s the same story now. Once McLaren gets a faster car again, everyone will go quiet—except for you Ferrari fans. You'll be right back at it, begging for a rule change just like that famous ban on engine materials back in 2000!

That won't happen anytime soon. Personally, I wasn't in favor of the ban. Ferrari was competitive even with a weaker car, and it made for much better racing.
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
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#25 ·
James Roberts87 said:Look, General Motors was faster in France, but Ross Brown’s golden strategy proved masterclass once again. If their cars aren't winning, that's on them for being slow.

They aren't even that competitive. Ferrari is still better.
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
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#26 ·
Ivansa said:They aren't quite that competitive. Ferrari is still the stronger side.

If we take Schumacher at his word, then Ferrari hasn't even hit their full potential yet...

And if you listen to Montoya—Ferrari hasn't shown everything they can do because once they actually start pushing, those reliability issues will pop up. (I wouldn't be surprised if that was some advice from his strategist)...

Now, looking back, it's pretty obvious Ferrari isn't running at one hundred percent all the time. I remember watching how SCH would pull away to a comfortable gap early on and just cruise from there to maintain it... kind of like what he mentioned himself. You don't get extra points for anything else out there...

But if Montoya's theory holds water, it makes me wonder why Rubens' Ferrari always seemed so reliable. It's hard to believe they were babying the car while he was driving well behind SCH and others...

Something just crossed my mind... maybe they should bring back a point for the fastest lap. At least that way, drivers might actually fight each other for something when the race becomes a bit dull...
ambermoose12 ambermoose12 Newcomer
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#27 ·
Mosley really moved the needle for Formula 1, but honestly, his impact on the other racing disciplines under the FIA umbrella was even more significant.
It’s such a damn shame he couldn't manage to breathe life back into the Super World Series. 😢
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
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#28 ·
ambermoose12 said:Mosley actually did a ton for Formula 1, not to mention everything else under the FIA umbrella.
Too bad he couldn't get the Super World Series back on track. 😢

He probably could've done a bit more for WRC, too.
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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#29 ·
Mosley was quite an individual... a man who spent his entire "term"
with his head stuck firmly up his own backside, if I'm being perfectly honest. What did he actually achieve for Formula 1? Between the new qualifying formats, the shifts in aerodynamics, and trying to reduce overtaking on track...

As for the WRC... well, that's not really my area of expertise, so I won't pretend to know much about it. But I must say, I am genuinely pleased to see him moving on. Perhaps a fresh face will step in and bring some much-needed energy back into Formula 1...
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
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#30 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:Mosley was a total idiot... the guy spent his entire "term"
with his head shoved up his own ass... look at what he did to Formula 1: new qualifying rules, aero changes, less overtaking on track...

As for WRC... I don't really follow it, so I won't weigh in, but I am GLAD he's out... maybe some fresh blood can actually bring some life back to Formula 1...

We'll probably just get someone even worse...
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
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#31 ·
Ivansa said:We might end up with someone even worse...

It's a long shot, but maybe. There's a rumor going around that the fool Mosley might include some kind of clause for whoever takes over his seat. Can you imagine? Giving that idiot a resignation notice just so he can't stick around and try to boss everyone around afterward. That's the only way.🙂
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
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#32 ·
Look, he definitely had some good ideas. Most of them were just attempts to knock Schumacher off his throne, but honestly? It didn't work.
Carol Ortiz4 Carol Ortiz4 Active Member
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#33 ·
I honestly feel like most people here ought to be standing against him. After all, the majority of this group keeps complaining about the lack of overtaking in Formula 1... and for that particular issue, we have Max to thank quite significantly...

The only thing I will ever give him credit for is the push toward making the cars a bit safer... though even that might not have happened if a few certain team principals hadn't absolutely INSISTED on it...

He’s just a complete disaster of a man...
Robin Fisher53 Robin Fisher53 Active Member
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#34 ·
Carol Ortiz4 said:I honestly think most people here ought to be against him. I mean, if you look at how much everyone complains about track limits in Formula 1, then Max is really the one to blame for that whole mess.

I will give him credit for one thing: he did push for making the cars a bit safer. But even then, we probably wouldn't be seeing those changes if the team bosses hadn't absolutely insisted on them.

Just a complete waste of a human being...

I wouldn't say that's quite the case... the cars are actually significantly safer now.
But honestly, anyone stepping into that role after Senna passed away would have made those same calls. It just wouldn't have been any different.

Ivansa
He certainly had some solid ideas under his belt. Most of them were aimed at trying to knock Schumacher off his pedestal, but unfortunately, he just couldn't quite pull it off.

Were you trying to say—thankfully, it didn't work out?

Come on, guys... who actually thinks it makes sense to introduce new regulations just because one person happens to be better than everyone else?
Honestly, anyone backing that move for that reason clearly doesn't understand what sports are all about. It’s nothing short of pure communism.
Raymond Carter2 Raymond Carter2 Active MemberOP
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#35 ·
Look, you're totally right about all that, but wouldn't it be way more interesting if someone actually took down Schumi?

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