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Praxiten and Aketon side effects?

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Participants Amy Fox97Douglas Edwards2Daniel LopezLarry Cruz51Joshua JonesAaron Thompson68placidrangerLarry Lewis2amberorca192Kenneth Hernandez67Thomas Mendoza5mistyhound2Patrick Martinez11dustyowl29darktinker4Kenneth BishopLarry Ortiz4redranger2Sean Hernandez3
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Could someone please give me some insight into the medications listed above? I'm looking to understand what they actually do and their primary functions.
thanks in advance.
Douglas Edwards2 Douglas Edwards2 Member
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#2 ·
Amy Fox97 said:I'd really appreciate it if someone could walk me through these meds—what they actually do and how they work.
thanks in advance.

As for Praxiten, I'm pretty sure it hits just like Xanax.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Douglas Edwards2 said:I think Praxiten works similarly to Xanax.

What exactly is Xanax used for? 🙂

I'm assuming it helps calm your nerves or something. My sister uses it, so I'd love to know what it actually does.
Daniel Lopez Daniel Lopez Active Member
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#4 ·
So you aren't sure what they're used for? They're for calming down. You can definitely overdo it, though. Some people use them to basically shut everything down and slow their entire system to a crawl...
Larry Cruz51 Larry Cruz51 Active Member
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Amy Fox97 said:I would be really grateful if someone could tell me a bit about the medications listed above—what they actually do and their general purpose.
thanks in advance.

What on earth did you find in your kid's bag?

Benzos are basically tranquilizers. If you mix them with alcohol or take too many, you end up with this total memory blackout...
Cogentin is used for Parkinson's disease. If you combine those with alcohol, things get weird... you lose your memory a little and start acting a bit crazy.

Teens love to experiment with stuff like this.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
My sister doesn't drink, and as far as I know, she doesn't have Parkinson's either.
Joshua Jones Joshua Jones Member
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#7 ·
"Cogentin (chemically known as biperiden) is an anticholinergic medication used within psychiatry specifically to prevent or manage the side effects triggered by antipsychotics. To be perfectly clear: Cogentin does not treat the underlying symptoms of the illness itself; rather, its purpose is to mitigate or forestall the adverse reactions caused by antipsychotic treatment. These side effects, which Cogentin is prescribed to combat, include involuntary muscle movements, abnormal eye positioning, muscle stiffness in the body and face, or a "mask-like" facial expression. It is critical to note that Cogentin should not be administered to patients suffering from angle-closure glaucoma, prostate hypertrophy, or cardiac conditions, as it may exacerbate these issues. Furthermore, prolonged use of Cogentin in elderly patients is generally discouraged. One must understand that antipsychotics are not addictive, nor do they poison the patient, control the brain, or dictate thoughts and behavior; instead, they assist the patient in organizing confused thoughts, help them perceive their surroundings more realistically, and allow them to maintain better control over their own behavior."
Larry Cruz51 Larry Cruz51 Active Member
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Amy Fox97 said:My sister doesn't drink, and she doesn't have Parkinson's either, as far as I know.

So, does that mean sis is just a little bit unhinged?
Is she somewhere in that 15 to 18 age range?

Taking things like Prazosin and Cogentin is basically just a rite of passage for teenagers...
Joshua Jones Joshua Jones Member
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#9 ·
Praxiten is a benzodiazepine, which essentially makes it a sedative. It’s designed to calm you down, ease tension, and induce drowsiness, which is why so many people reach for it when they're struggling with insomnia.

As for me, Praxiten never really did anything for my symptoms... Honestly, regarding the Praxiten, I don't think you need to lose sleep over what your sister is taking; however, I find it quite peculiar that she's on this second medication without being prescribed an antipsychotic alongside it... (Unless, of course, she’s dealing with Parkinson's.) But then again, I suppose her doctor knows best.🙂
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#10 ·
Thanks for the effort. My sister’s marriage fell apart because of her mother-in-law's constant bullying, and I'm honestly at a loss for how to help her. She just sits there, completely lifeless and withdrawn. She's leaning on medication, but I know that isn't a long-term fix. She needs to find something to live for instead of just dwelling on everything that happened in the past.
Aaron Thompson68 Aaron Thompson68 Newcomer
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#11 ·
Cogentin is an antipsychotic

My mom was on it once... unfortunately (she actually needed an antidepressant)

She spent half her time crying and could barely string a coherent sentence together

Honestly, based on how you're describing what your sister is going through, it sounds like depression, and I don't think Cogentin is exactly the right tool for that job

Your best bet is probably just to go talk to a neuropsychiatrist
placidranger placidranger Regular
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#12 ·
Paxil is absolute overkill... my take...

Cogentin... yeah, pretty much the same garbage.
Never again with the beer.😁

Anyway, my uncle deals with schizophrenia and takes Cogentin—and my grandmother, who isn't exactly mentally sound either, used to take Paxil until she became totally dependent on it.
I suspect she was just using it to manage her blood pressure. It calms you down, and she felt better.
placidranger placidranger Regular
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Amy Fox97 said:Thanks for the effort. My sister’s marriage fell apart because of her mother-in-law’s constant harassment, and I’m at a loss for how to help her. She just sits there—completely checked out and withdrawn. She’s leaning on pills, but I know that isn't the answer; she needs to find something to live for instead of just dwelling on what happened.

If she’s popping those pills without a prescription, she could seriously wreck her brain chemistry—we're talking potential psychosis and a stint in a psych ward... it's a dangerous game.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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placidranger said:If she's taking those without a prescription, she could seriously mess up her brain chemistry. She might end up dealing with psychosis and landing in a psychiatric ward... it's definitely not good.

She has prescriptions.
Larry Lewis2 Larry Lewis2 Active Member
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#15 ·
Depression isn't really treated with the old stuff anymore. She should probably just ask her doctor to prescribe something from the newer generations... like Prozac or maybe even Celexa. It’s better to find something that actually lifts your mood and gets you moving again, rather than those heavy hitters that just leave you feeling totally numb and foggy.

I'm just writing this ahead of time since I'm not entirely sure what her official diagnosis is.
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
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#16 ·
Jesus Quintana said:I think Praxiten works just like Valium.

Well, yeah, they have the same effect since they're both benzos.
Personally, I prefer Valium. Honestly, Valium, Diazepam, and Normabel all have the same active ingredient, though Valium is my go-to. Problem is, my local pharmacy can't keep Valium in stock lately, so I've been stuck taking Apaurin along with a bunch of other meds (not that I want to list them all).

If you can manage without them, honestly? Don't take them.
I've been on them forever because I have to, but man, I'd much rather be able to function without them.😢

Today’s been rough. I popped 50mg of Apaurin this morning and it barely did anything, so now I'm looking at taking another dose just to settle down.
My nerves are shot and my mental state is just trash.😠 😢
Kenneth Hernandez67 Kenneth Hernandez67 Regular
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#17 ·
Larry Lewis2 said:Depression isn't treated with sedatives anymore...

Way to go, Larry Lewis2 👍

The days of just drugging people into submission are long gone... things like Paxil are essentially just sedatives.

You treat depression with antidepressants and psychotherapy; sedatives are strictly for as-needed use.

amberorca192, seriously, if even 50 mg of Valium doesn't "calm you down," then you clearly need something else entirely... are you even seeing a psychologist or a psychiatrist?
Thomas Mendoza5 Thomas Mendoza5 Member
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Kenneth Hernandez67 said:The standard approach for depression involves antidepressants paired with psychotherapy, while sedatives are typically used on an as-needed basis.

The thing is, depression frequently comes bundled with psychosis, anxiety attacks, or bouts of aggression—things that antidepressants often fail to keep in check. In fact, since they act as stimulants, they can sometimes actually ramp up those symptoms or make them happen more often...

And honestly, psychotherapy can be pretty ineffective quite a bit of the time because it only focuses on what’s going on inside a person's head. Depression almost never stems from purely chemical reactions in the brain; rather, it's driven by external circumstances that therapy simply cannot change...

It mostly just helps with acceptance, helping you deal with those outside factors, which feels like the medical version of "resigning to fate." Personally, I don't really view that as medicine so much as a mild version of euthanasia...

Truth be told, sedatives follow that same logic. These kinds of medications are essentially more of a "I'll teach you how to endure this, and then we'll just pray the situation improves before these same drugs make everything five times worse" type of solution...

Though, I suppose, they do make daily existence a little easier... and at higher doses, they might even give someone a tiny bit of false hope in life. 🙄
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
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Kenneth Hernandez67 said:Nice one, Larry Lewis2 👍

It's been a long time since people used to be sedated constantly... and things like Praxiten are just sedatives.

You treat depression with antidepressants and therapy; you take sedatives only when you actually need them.

amberorca192, seriously, if 50 mg of Valium isn't enough to "calm you down," then you clearly need something else... are you even seeing a psychologist or a psychiatrist?

I see a psychiatrist, though not as much lately because I've been feeling way better.
I read that thread you started about your relative, so I figured you get what this is like.
I can just list my diagnoses for you:

OCD
Bipolar disorder
Schizoid personality disorder
Acute schizophrenia

As for the meds I've taken or am still on:

Valium, Xanax, Lexapro, Tegretol, Amisulpride, Zyprexa,
Nozinan, Stelazine, Clozaril, Haldol, etc.

My condition has improved over the last two years so much that I rarely touch the heavy stuff anymore; benzos usually do the trick.
On the rare occasions they don't, I'll take 200-300 mg of Stelazine or 50 mg of Clozaril, which is basically nothing compared to what I was on before.

I'd rather not talk about it anymore.😢
Kenneth Hernandez67 Kenneth Hernandez67 Regular
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Willard said:I see a psychiatrist, though I haven't been going as much lately since I’ve been feeling significantly better.
After reading your thread about your relative, I think you understand the situation.
To give you some context, here are my diagnoses:

Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
Bipolar Disorder
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Acute Schizophrenia

As for the medications I have taken or am currently on:

Ativan/Valium, Xanax/Helex, Taxilan, Amyzol, Zyprexa,
Nozinan, Prazina, Leponex, Haldol, etc.

I apologize if I offended you... I wasn't aware of all this.

Everything makes sense to me now. Sending you a huge 🙂 and 😘 for support. 👍

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