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Who's the greatest film composer of all time?

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Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#41 ·
Baphomet said:Ennio Morricone

...and honestly—which blasphemer could ever justify ignoring him in a poll?

Someone who only has ten spots to work with...
😉 😁 😎
Kenneth Hill37 Kenneth Hill37 Member
47 messages
joined Dec 2003
#42 ·
Fleming said:So, if you've only got 10 seats at the table...
😉 😁 😎

😁 😎 😉 🙂
Nancy Morales2 Nancy Morales2 Member
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joined May 2004
#43 ·
Sophia Williams said:Well, I guess there actually are some literate people on this Forum after all.


🙂 🙂 just so they can turn around and write a few topics later like:

"The guy who only has 10 seats available..."
😱 🙂

God, save me from these uneducated, small-town hicks.😢
Jeremy Flores4 Jeremy Flores4 Member
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joined Dec 2005
#44 ·
Where on earth are they on this list?
I mean, can you even wrap your head around a decent Western without Ennio Morricone's score? It just doesn't work.
Then you’ve got Nino Rota—The Godfather, Godfather, Godfather, Amarcord, and all those other Fellini classics.
Or Maurice Jarre—Dead Poets Society, Dr. Zhivago.
And Vangelis—Blade Runner, 1492.
Not to mention Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Amélie.

Look, any serious conversation about film scores is basically impossible without these names. Sure, we can all play favorites and pick our own personal heroes, but honestly? Trying to talk about movie music without mentioning Rota or Vangelis is like trying to talk about soccer without bringing up Maradona. Just thinking about The Godfather Waltz gives me chills.
northernotter3 northernotter3 Member
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#45 ·
Sophia Williams said:Amateur?! Honestly, I think the music from Star Wars is actually quite good— 🙂 and I’m not ashamed to say it; frankly, this whole Lucas craze is just dumbing down the movie-going audience...

🙂 Sophia Williams—what an amateur! Sophia Williams—what an amateur! 🙂

I really can't believe you'd make a comment like that about the Star Wars soundtracks! 🙂 🙂

Alright. Now that we've settled that, we can go back to talking like civilized people. I know you have a soft spot for those James Bond scores. So, come on—answer my question since nobody else seems willing to. What’s your favorite 007 soundtrack?
northernotter3 northernotter3 Member
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joined Dec 2003
#46 ·
I’m really glad Jeremy Flores4 brought up Vangelis and that legendary "Blade Runner" score. 👍

Yet, it feels like everyone overlooks another absolute genius... even if he doesn't fit the mold of a traditional composer... GIORGIO MORODER! 🙏
One single mention should be enough—just think of Scarface! 😎
Jeremy Flores4 Jeremy Flores4 Member
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joined Dec 2005
#47 ·
Self-correction here—since the edit window for my post already slammed shut, I’ve gotta do this the long way.
Amélie

Jean-Pierre Jeunet directed the movie, and Yann Tiersen did the score.
I was typing that out around 1 AM, so my brain was basically mush—honestly didn't even realize what I was putting down. Apparently, though, nobody else noticed the slip-up.
cosmictrucker132 cosmictrucker132 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#48 ·
northernotter3 said:I think you already knew all of this yourself. Honestly, asking felt unnecessary—just a way to derail the conversation.

That’s not quite right... maybe—certainly—it was an unnecessary question for this thread. I've never really cared about those things, so I'm not exactly an expert. I know they're considered "the basics," but I am what I am. Creators. All these sounds belong in the same basket...

Despite your explanation, some things still don't quite add up. I just spent thirty minutes drilling this into a colleague at work until he finally understood. 😁 He explained everything I wanted to know... and now I realize it’s all just nonsense that interests me even less than usual. All that talk about copyright laws and how things have changed from back then to today, especially in film. Anyway, I won't derail the topic any further. What a relief.
driftingowl30 driftingowl30 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2003
#49 ·
This guy! Seriously people, have you even seen a single Blake Edwards movie? The sheer ignorance regarding cinema here is unreal!!! It’s not all about video games.
😕 👎
ruggedstag84 ruggedstag84 Member
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joined Dec 2003
#50 ·
Sophia Williams said:Snobby? Most of those guys didn't even get a sniff from the Oscars... Herr Fritz...!
If you actually knew your stuff, you would've brought up
Jerry Goldsmith and, above all else,
Henry Mancini!!!
And Bregović is just some hack pushing his tacky little "jokes" on clueless people in the West under the label of "ethnic music"...
👎

Heh, looks like we pissed off Mr. Fleming. You asked for it, buddy.
Let’s get to it:
- I couldn't care less how many Oscars the composers on your list (or mine) won, because frankly, I don't give a damn about them.
- I'm not claiming to be some huge film score expert; I'm just someone who likes a good soundtrack.
- Of course I know Goldsmith, I just didn't think of him right then—just like I didn't think of Rosz, Lalo Schifrin, Vangelis, or a million others. I just listed a few of my favorites. If you could forget about Ennio Morricone or Nino Rota, you can forgive me.😁
- I did mention Henry Mancini was "above all." If you'd actually paid attention while reading, you'd have seen him grouped with Ry Cooder.
- Look, tastes differ and arguing over what someone likes is pointless, but your nonsense like "Michael Nyman is just an egoist writing for himself before finding some crazies like Jane Campion or Peter Greenaway" or "Bregović is a hack pushing his tacky jokes on the West..." is so stupid that maybe northernotter3 was being too nice when they called you an amateur.

🙂
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#51 ·
Nancy Morales2 said:🙂 🙂 might write a few more threads later:

"The one who only has 10 spots available..."
😱 🙂

God help me—spare me from all these uneducated, small-town types... 😢

What an idiot—and to top it off, he doesn't even like old classic films. This world is just full of morons... Honestly, maybe Santa Claus should just bring you some medication or pills, so you stop making your keyboard suffer with this garbage...
🙂
You need this—put it in your head, you little Marxist... If your mother died giving birth to you, don't go chasing after every single person you think you like...
☕
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#52 ·
Jeremy Flores4 said:Where on earth are they on this list?
Can you even imagine a standard Western without Ennio Morricone's music?
Nino Rota—The Godfather, Godfather, Godfather, Amarcord—and other Fellini films...
Maurice Jarre—Dead Poets Society, Dr. Zhivago...
Vangelis—Blade Runner, 1492...
Amélie by Jean-Pierre Jeunet...

Any discussion about film scores is impossible without these names. We might prefer one composer over another—but honestly, discussing film music without Rota or Vangelis is like talking about soccer without Maradona. Just thinking about The Godfather Waltz...

You clearly need a serious education in cinema; it’s obvious you only "grew up" on "Star Wars," whereas compared to those, even "Star Trek" (those first two sequels) stands as large as "Citizen Kane" or "The Third Man"—meaning you "learned" about movies through the bland music of those Lucas picture books designed to dull the masses...

Anyone who hasn't watched René Clair's "I Married a Witch" starring Veronica Lake and Fredric March, or "It Happened Tomorrow" with Dick Powell and Linda Darnell at least a hundred times—or seen "Rare Window" at least a thousand times—can't call themselves a film connoisseur; people like that should be banned and sent back to school...

You haven't even heard of these names, have you? You just cling to John Williams like a childhood security blanket, and as for that hack Michael Nyman, you probably just read his name somewhere...

The music for Amélie wasn't written by Morricone, man—it was Yann Tiersen... It's wonderful, sure, but that's just one single movie...
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#53 ·
ruggedstag84:
Well, well—it seems we’ve managed to upset Mr. Fleming. You asked for it, maestro...

YOU DIDN'T UPSET ME AND I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING, BUT I CLEARLY BUMPED INTO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ONLY SEEN A TINY FRACTION—OR NONE AT ALL—OF THE GREAT FILMS... SO THEY REALLY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT

Getting to the point:
- It honestly pains me how many Oscars the composers on your list (or mine) have won, because frankly, I couldn't care less about them...

WELL, IF IT PAINS YOU THAT MUCH, WHY BRING IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE BY CLAIMING I MADE THE LIST BASED ON OSCARS? FIRST, YOU USE IT AS AN ARGUMENT—CLAIMING JOHN WILLIAMS IS OVERRATED—AND THEN SUDDENLY IT DOESN'T MATTER. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T MATTER, NOW THAT YOU'VE RECALLED YOURSELF?😁

- I don't consider myself some grand expert; I'm just someone who appreciates a good soundtrack...

WELL, JUST SAY THAT! There's no point arguing over taste, so don't expect me to play mother and pick out music for you. Just start your own thread and praise your own soundtracks then.

Of course I know Jerry Goldsmith, but he just didn't come to mind at that moment—just like Rosz, Lalo Schifrin, Vangelis, and a million others. I only mentioned a few of my favorites. Since you could forget all about Ennio Morricone or Nino Rota, surely you can forgive me...

FORGIVEN. JUST WATCH IT NEXT TIME.😁

- I mentioned him "before Henry Mancini." If you had been reading more carefully, you would have found him right there alongside Ry Cooder.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO INFECTED ME WITH THIS SUPERFICIAL READING... :; 😁

- I know tastes vary and there's no sense in bickering over what someone likes...

OK, NOW YOU'RE JUST PRETENDING TO BE REASONABLE...

But your little theories—like "Michael Nyman is just an egoist who writes for himself and then finds eccentrics like Jane Campion or Peter Greenaway" or "Goran Bregović is just a hack pushing his folk jokes on the uneducated"... those are just nonsense.

NYMAN HIMSELF HAS STATED IN SEVERAL INTERVIEWS THAT HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE DIRECTOR'S IDEAS, AND THAT ABOVE ALL, HE LOOKS OUT FOR HIMSELF—SO IF SOMEONE LIKES THE MUSIC, WELL, THEY CAN TAKE IT. HE SAYS HE DOESN'T ADAPT TO THE FILM AT ALL, WHICH TO ME IS JUST ABSURDITY, because film music is, by definition, applied music...

northernotter3 was probably being too kind when they called you an amateur.

THEN GO AHEAD, BE THE BIG MAN, BE THE TOUGH GUY, AND CALL ME WHATEVER YOU WANT—MAYBE FROM A DISTANCE...😍 😉😎
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#54 ·
northernotter3 said:🙂 Mr. Fleming — an absolute amateur! Mr. Fleming — an absolute amateur! 🙂

I’m actually quite offended by that comment regarding the Star Wars films! 🙂 🙂

Alright. We're even now—so we can finally talk like civilized people. I know you have a soft spot for those Bond soundtracks. So—answer my question, since nobody else will... What's your favorite 007 soundtrack?

☕
Do you think I'm angry?
🎉
From the film On Her Majesty's Secret Service, that is my absolute favorite soundtrack; before I finally got it burned onto a disc, I actually tore through five cassette tapes just trying to listen to all my own mixes from the movie—all the instrumentals, including parts where I layered in the voices of George Lazenby and Diana Rigg... If it weren't for Burt Bacharach, Berry would be my number one...
👋
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#55 ·
Jeremy Flores4 said:I need to correct myself—since the window for editing the post has already closed, I have to do it this way...

Jean-Pierre Jeunet directed the film, and the score was composed by Yann Tiersen.
When I originally wrote that, it was nearly 1:00 AM—so my brain wasn't exactly firing on all cylinders—but apparently, nobody even noticed the mistake.

I caught it just now after logging back in, though credit goes to: 🙏
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#56 ·
northernotter3 said:I’m really glad Jeremy Flores4 brought up Vangelis and that legendary "Blade Runner" soundtrack. 👍

Yet, nobody seems to be mentioning another absolute genius—even if he isn't your typical classical composer... GIORGIO MORODER! 🙏
One word should be enough—Scarface! 😎

Moroder is a titan, plain and simple.
But when you only have ten spots available, you can't squeeze in every single legend...
That’s why we have our very own American Moldavach Netko Vaš ...🙂
Nancy Morales2 Nancy Morales2 Member
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#57 ·
Sophia Williams said:What an absolute moron. And get this—he doesn't even like vinyl. This planet is just crawling with idiots... Maybe Santa Claus should just bring you a massive stash of meds and pills so you can stop choking your keyboard with all this garbage...
🙂
Here, take this, put it on your head, you little Marxist... If your old man kicked the bucket at birth, quit chasing after every single person you find remotely interesting.
☕

Man, just chill out... Seriously, go warm up a chair and actually read a book for once. Honestly? Start with something on basic grammar and manners. 👋
Jeremy Flores4 Jeremy Flores4 Member
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joined Dec 2005
#58 ·
The score for Amelie wasn't even written by Morricone, man, it was Tiersen... I mean, it's a great movie, but that's just one film...

Who said Morricone wrote it? I mentioned Jeunet because I was tripping, writing this stuff at 1 AM. When I saw what I actually typed this morning, I fixed it. Seriously, where on earth did you see Morricone linked to Amelie? I honestly have no clue.

You clearly need a serious education in cinema; it’s obvious you only "grew up" on "Star Wars," and compared to those, even "Star Trek" (the first two sequels) are massive like "Citizen Kane" or "The Third Man." Basically, you "learned" about movies through that mindless music from those Lucas-esque picture books designed to lobotomize the masses.

You're quoting my post alongside this pile of nonsense. Where in that specific post did I ever mention John Williams or Star Wars music? Please, just point it out to me—just like you "found" Morricone attached to Amelie.

You can think whatever you want about the Oscars or Williams, but the reality is, winning five Oscars and fifty nominations isn't some fluke. He definitely didn't earn all that just because he has pretty eyes.

So, you finally realized it wasn't Morricone for Amelie. Fine. Whatever.
northernotter3 northernotter3 Member
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joined Dec 2003
#59 ·
My absolute favorite 007 soundtrack (and the movie itself!) has to be The Man with the Golden Gun.
Right up there with it, sitting almost neck and neck, is the Goldfinger score.
Following those, I’d place Thunderball and A View to a Kill in my top rankings.

I had actually hoped to have a bit of a civilized discussion with you, Sophia Williams, regarding Bond music, but you just kept up with those irrational and frankly insulting jabs at the Star Wars films, Williams' compositions, and us fans—myself included.
Because of that, I don't see any point in continuing this conversation with you. You're being unkind. 👎
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active MemberOP
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#60 ·
Nancy Morales2 said:Man, just keep your cool... honestly, it's better to just grab a warm seat and pick up a book—maybe start with something on grammar or basic etiquette... 👋

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