Kill Bill Vol. 1

Henry Anderson47 said:I sign off on everything Mark Nelson17 wrote in the opening post.
But everything.

I feel the exact same way. 😁.

I just sat through Kill Bill Vol. 1 and honestly, I regret wasting my time. It’s been a long while since I watched such a bad movie, especially when local networks broadcast nothing but garbage every single day.
Since Tarantino directed it, I thought there was no way it could be that bad, but it turns out it can actually get much worse. Shlock and from dusk till dawn are incredible movies, but this is pure trash.

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James Roberts87 said:I just watched Kill Bill, and honestly, I regret doing that. It’s been a long time since I sat through such a bad movie. I guess local networks just broadcast shlock every single day.
Tarantino filmed it, so I figured maybe it wouldn't be that bad, but honestly, it looks like it might actually be worse. I mean, look, *shlock* and *from dusk till dawn* are awesome movies, but this? This is just pure garbage.

What does Kill Bill have to do with HTV? I guess I don't really see the connection. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems pretty random to me.

Maybe if you pack on a few more years and check out another five hundred movies—which, let’s be honest, is what most people here have done—then you can come back and ask me what I think about some absolute piece of shlock.
Sure thing. To you. It might be bad, but it’s not exactly terrible either, I guess. Movie making. It’s a strange thing, I guess. You spend all this time thinking about the craft, the lighting, the way a scene feels, and then you realize how much of it is just pure chaos managed by people in headsets. Maybe that's just the nature of it. It's always been about balancing that vision with the reality of what actually happens on set. I don't know. Just some thoughts. Terms.

If you know what I mean. Or maybe you're just messing around? 😁

Henry Anderson47 said:Go ahead, age a few more years and watch another five hundred movies (like most people here) and then I'll ask you for your opinion on this pure shlock of a movie again.

That's exactly why I said it's crap. I just don't believe Tarantino could have actually filmed such garbage.

James Roberts87 said:Yeah, that’s why I said it’s garbage. I just don't believe Tarantino could actually make such a trashy movie.

Alright, whatever, it doesn't matter. I think you mentioned somewhere that you're around 18 or 20 years old...

Trust me, you'll probably view certain movies differently later on. It happens to all of us, I guess. 🙂

Henry Anderson47 said:Alright fine, no big deal. I think you mentioned somewhere that you're around 18 or 20...

Trust me, you'll view certain movies differently later on. It happens to all of us. 🙂

I actually started watching movies differently a long time ago, but this one just really rubbed me the wrong way. They drop some random Japanese animation right in the middle of the movie while she's staring at her parents' murder and everything. If I wanted to watch bad Japanese cartoons, I would've just turned on satellite TV.😁

There’s no doubt about it—this is a quintessential Tarantino creation, whether you love it or hate it. Personally, I have to point out that incredible anime sequence produced by the legendary Production I.G. It’s exactly what they’re famous for—that unmatched imagination paired with top-tier technical polish.

But let's be real: without Roger Avary, the movie loses a lot of its bite in terms of sharp dialogue and narrative depth. I mean, just playing around with the order in which the young girl takes out her enemies isn't exactly groundbreaking, right?

Honestly, you’d probably need to be as much of a total cinephile idiot as Tarantino himself just to list every single movie that influenced him. You can spot Hitchcock in there with his influence on Marnie—it’s got that same vibe with the nurse walking down the hallway—and even traces of the Japanese horror Goke, specifically that orange sky backdrop behind the plane.

There's plenty more where that came from, too. I'll get back to you.

The movie is, as you all probably noticed, brutally bloody and honestly pretty naive. The whole story plays out in a simulacrum—a place that looks like 21st-century America, but just isn't. It’s this hyper-stylized martial arts world where the usual rules of economics, politics, police work, physiology, or even gravity don't seem to apply. It’s a universe built entirely out of nods and references ranging from spaghetti westerns to Asian cinema, all layered under a very heavy directorial hand.

To be honest, I’m not a huge fan of Tarantino's movies. The constant profanity and that specific kind of bluntness in every single line of dialogue really grinds my gears—I truly believe you can craft a high-quality film (or a novel, or a drama) without relying on that stuff. Plus, I’ve got an issue with this whole "alchemy" thing people do. I mean, can anyone actually create something truly original these days? (Let's face it, total originality is basically impossible.) But does everything *have* to be mashed together? Must there be a reference to something else existing in every single frame?

One thing is for sure—if you want to absolutely love this movie, you have to be just as obsessed with the films that influenced Bill as Tarantino is. For me? I didn't walk out of the theater feeling some massive, burning urge to rush out and see a sequel.

Surprisingly enough, there is one Brechtian—well, modern-day—allusion here: the way each chapter title is presented, combined with Richardson's photography full of those intense, bright colors and that expertly stylized scene that owes so much to Yohei Taneda.

And frankly, I've had just about enough of these critics who try to sell us nonsense as if it were profound. So, I figured it was time to take matters into my own hands and write a review the way it ought to be done. Who knows? Maybe I'll have a bit of luck with this one.

Mark Nelson17 said:I just read two reviews of the new Tarantino movie and both agree it’s an exceptional, brilliant masterpiece. On top of that, they cram in a superlative every other sentence—about the acting, the direction, the uncompromising vision, etcetera, etcetera... Zero negative comments about the film itself.

Look, I wouldn't hype the film that much.

It’s fun, but that’s about it. That great music? It’s pulled straight from Bruce Lee movies, isn't it? Sounds familiar from back in the day.
😳

Anyway,
to me, Tarantino has always been a spoiled brat who stumbled into filmmaking and now he's just trying to heal his own complexes or cater to the crowd by cranking out violent action flicks.
🙂

With Kill Bill—specifically Kill Bill 2—he definitely went overboard.

Michelle Sanchez5 said:The movie is, just like you guys noticed, brutally bloody and kind of naive. The whole story plays out in a simulacrum—a place that looks like the US in the 21st century, but isn't quite it. It’s this martial arts world where normal rules of economics, politics, police work, physiology, or even gravity don't really apply. It's a world built out of allusions ranging from spaghetti westerns to Asian movies, with the director's presence layered over everything like some kind of superstructure.

I’m not really a fan of Tarantino's movies. Honestly, those Tarantino-style curses and the bluntness in every single sentence kind of bother me. I feel like you can make a high-quality film (or a novel, or a drama) without needing all that. Plus, this whole "alchemy" thing bugs me too. I mean, can anyone actually make something original nowadays? (Maybe total originality is impossible, I guess.) But does everything have to be mashed together? Does there have to be an allusion to something already existing in every single scene?

One thing is pretty clear, though—to fully love this movie, you basically have to be just as obsessed with the films that influenced Bill as Tarantino is. Personally, I didn't leave the theater feeling particularly hungry or impatient to see a sequel.

By some miracle, there’s even a Brechtian (well, maybe...) allusion here—the way each chapter title is displayed, Richardson's photography full of heavy, bright colors, and that skillfully stylized scene that owes a lot to Yohei Taneda.

I've had enough of these reviews where critics just try to sound smarter than they actually are. So, I figured I should just take matters into my own hands and write a review the way it should be done. Maybe I'll get lucky, or maybe not.

He talks a big game, but that doesn't really suit you 70% of the time.
At least not for me.

I don't adore any of Tarantino's influences, nor do I even know who they are, and frankly, I don't care. I don't even adore Tarantino.
So what now?

You've got a detailed analysis for that too? 😉

Kill Bill is a freaking masterpiece!

Henry Martin10 said:Kill Bill is a masterpiece!

Because of the constant cycle of violence?
🙄

Ever since I picked up the DVD, I’ve been watching that martial arts scene with hundreds of Yakuza guys all at once every single day. The soundtrack is incredible, the violence feels just like a comic book, and there’s blood everywhere (though it can't quite top Evil Dead). Plus, that scene right before it, where Uma Thurman cuts off Sofia's arm? I just love watching her face and those beautiful eyes. Honestly, even the music alone is such a joy.
👍

cro Fag said:is it because of all the violence?
🙄

No, it's about how it was shot!

Wait, how much blood actually sprays when you slice off a limb? 😵 !!

Overrated stupidity.

Bryan Wright8 said:Wait, how much blood actually sprays when you slice off a limb? 😵 !!

It’s a tribute to those old Kung Fu movies and similar flicks that used that specific technique.