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Nathan Collins2 Nathan Collins2 Active Member
68 messages
joined Feb 2006
#21 ·
I should probably mention how much of a joke the credibility of that census actually was—I checked the "Catholic" box even though I haven’t even been baptized.😉 Why would I do that? Simple. I live in a tiny, suffocating town where everyone is obsessed with this kind of stuff, and the person running the whole operation held a high-ranking local position. After the data was collected, she went ahead and publicly gossiped about everyone's responses, basically pointing fingers at who was what and labeling anyone who didn't fit in as an "outsider."😉 Naturally, I marked myself down as Catholic just to stay under the radar and protect myself.😉
So, there you have it. That’s the level of integrity we're dealing with.

I honestly hope there comes a day when I can say I don't believe in God without looking over my shoulder in fear. At least, not the version of Him that the Catholic Church has turned into a commercialized brand.
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#22 ·
What even are you talking about? What arguments against Yoga are you making? What did I ever say against Yoga?
You're just venting about the Catholic Church, forced Catholicism, the environment you live in, the mindset of your fellow Americans, and your own fears. You probably have plenty of reasons for feeling that way, but what does any of that have to do with the actual topic? For crying out loud, go back and read my post. Better yet, go read your own posts.
According to the last census, 87.83 percent of people identified as members of the Catholic Church. There were only 4,764 people belonging to other faiths. Those are the facts. As for why someone chose to identify a certain way on a census, I’m not getting into that. Using your logic, I could claim that 99.9% of America is actually Catholic because I'm Catholic, the guy next to me is Catholic, and I've never met anyone who wasn't. Or my friend got married as a Catholic. You really think that kind of anecdotal nonsense counts as an argument???

The exact number isn't even the point here. The issue is that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops responded with a press release. Basically, the representatives of the dominant religion in the country voiced their opinion on the matter. So, should we bash them, smear them, and dump everything said about them onto this thread?

And why do you have to finance the Catholic Church as a taxpayer (even though you fund it far less than you think, but that's not the point)? Because there's a law. Because that's what the majority decided. You fund other religions based on proportional representation. You fund political parties regardless of your own political leanings. You fund roads even if you don't own a car. It's your right to disagree, but that's not going to save you from laws that apply to you regardless.

PS, since you're all asking, the actual link is http://www.census.gov/Popis%202001/Popis...H01_02_04.html
Nathan Collins2 Nathan Collins2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2006
#23 ·
You start this whole debate by playing philosopher in your very first post, trying to find a middle ground between religion and philosophy, when all I asked was for your take on why the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops reacted the way they did. I already laid out my reasoning for their reaction a long time ago, but clearly, you didn't bother to read it. Whatever.
Kinda smells like a provocation to me when someone kicks off a thread with a line like, "I see most of you are big on Yoga..."

Since you were the one throwing out numbers about Catholic populations and percentages, you opened the door for a counterargument, so what's your actual problem here???!!!
It doesn't matter if you aren't explicitly attacking Yoga; you're making your point indirectly by using arguments like "The US is a predominantly Catholic nation..." and citing statistics. I'm just showing you that statistics don't always tell the whole truth.😉

Then, you wrap up your post acting like some pissed-off taxpayer, so fine—you get a counterargument from an equally pissed-off taxpayer right back. What is wrong with you??? Is it just an inability to handle a well-reasoned opposing view?
We could probably take this discussion toward religion or politics, but honestly, there's no point and I'm just not feeling it. Besides, I gave my answer regarding the USCCB statement ages ago. So, I am staying perfectly on topic.😉
Go take a hike.😉
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#24 ·
Yoga is nothing more than a hobby for people with limited intellectual capacity—just a bunch of idiots and bad actors looking to dull their wits.

If I actually posted that, I’d instantly be branded some backward, intolerant Neanderthal. That’s exactly how people talk when they’re busy pretending they're chasing Nirvana, keeping their "spirits" detached from real-world problems while aiming for some fake perfection. Except, instead of yoga, they just swap it out for the HBK or whatever some bishop is preaching that day.

So, please, enlighten me: what kind of "yoga" is actually teaching anyone anything? Yoga is just a pose, a subculture, just like being a Goth or a Punk was twenty years ago. Sure, I'm sure there are people out there taking it seriously and using it for mental or physical discipline, but I highly doubt any of those serious types have ever even stepped foot on this forum.

And honestly, what's my problem?
A Anonymous Veteran
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#25 ·
Yoga is fine, I guess. But at the end of the day, it’s a personal choice.
We could definitely incorporate Yoga into PE classes at school,
but if teachers are just going to do whatever they feel like regardless of the curriculum, why should taxpayers foot the bill?
I personally get into long-distance running, yet nobody ever picks up the tab for my gear.
Lisa Walker7 Lisa Walker7 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2003
#26 ·
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George Brooks5 George Brooks5 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2003
#27 ·
Charles Hill78 said:Yoga is only for people with limited mental capacity. Idiots and malicious people. Yoga just makes you stupid.

If I were the one who had typed out those words, I’d instantly be branded as some backward, intolerant Neanderthal. It’s funny, really—those are the exact kinds of insults hurled by folks who pretend they’re chasing Nirvana, acting as if they can somehow float above our earthly struggles toward some state of perfection. Except, instead of practicing Yoga, they just substitute it with the HBK or various bishops and such.

Could you please, for my sake, tell me what specific kind of Yoga teaches that? Honestly, I think Yoga is just a subculture, much like how goths or punks used to be twenty years ago (and still are today). I truly believe there are people out there who take Yoga seriously and find it incredibly beneficial for both their intellect and their physical health. Though, I don't suppose any of those serious practitioners would ever bother showing up on a topic like this.

So, what exactly is my problem here?


The issue is simply that you are uninformed and heavily biased.
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#28 ·
Can you give me some more details on this?
A Anonymous Veteran
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#29 ·
Charles Hill78 said:Can you go into more detail on that?

And could you elaborate on why you think only idiots and morons get into Yoga?
Also, why would you call Yoga just a passing fad when it’s been around for thousands of years?
Have you had some bad experiences with it?

Can you actually provide any facts to back up the claim that Yoga is a "method for mental dulling"?
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#30 ·
Don't just skim the first sentence—read the entire damn post. Actually, scratch that, read the whole thread if you want to actually understand what's going on here. If you have half a brain, you'll see exactly what I mean. 🙂
Yoga is nothing more than a passing fad in America right now, since people haven't been practicing it for thousands of years in this country. That said, I don't personally have any bad experiences with Yoga.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#31 ·
We could always just practice Yoga on our own
but then again, why would we even bother with all those Swamis, Gurus, and self-proclaimed masters?
Alexander Parker69 Alexander Parker69 Active Member
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joined Mar 2003
#32 ·
Yoga has become nothing more than a trendy fad. When some girl claims most of her friends have taken up Yoga just to lose weight or get a better physique, it’s obvious we’re looking at a massive trend. Honestly, whenever I see those cliché, overly sentimental photos everywhere—you know the ones, girls in leggings twisting themselves into knots on a manicured lawn during a sunset—it’s clear this is all just about aesthetics.
What actually concerns me, though, is who exactly is teaching these people? A single Swami certainly can't be running enough classes to meet this demand, and frankly, I have my doubts about the competence of most of these instructors. I once knew a girl who, while practicing Yoga and Pranayama, started experiencing serious psychological issues. She went to her instructor to talk about it, and the woman responded in that typical New Age style—with a smug, condescending expression, preaching about how everything is Divine and how everything will work out fine, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, the poor girl was in a state of total mental collapse. There are plenty of cases like this where people mess with their psyche and end up unable to cope with the fallout, yet these teachers haven't the slightest clue about the profound things they are messing with in people's minds.
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#33 ·
Alexander Parker69 has a point, but I don't think it's just a lack of technique. It's more about people not having the education or the maturity to handle it properly.
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#34 ·
Can I actually get an answer as to why I'm being labeled as uninformed and biased here?😉

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