What's the secret to a perfect pizza?

03/16. What’s the secret to a killer pizza?

Got into this debate on a chat thread earlier, so I figured I'd start a new thread here to see what you guys think. The argument was basically that you can't make a real pizza without a wood-fired oven.
Personally, I think that's total nonsense, but hey, I'm no expert.

So, what makes a pizza good in your book? Are you even into pizza at all?

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Jeremy Johnson18 said:03/16. What’s the secret to a killer pizza?

Got into this debate on a chat thread earlier, so I figured I'd start a new thread here to see what you guys think. The argument was basically that you can't make a real pizza without a wood-fired oven.
Personally, I think that's total nonsense, but hey, I'm no expert.

So, what makes a pizza good in your book? Are you even into pizza at all?

Topic of the day moved after post 50 from topic of the day.

Facts. Anything out of a standard home oven isn't pizza. A regular oven just can't hit those temps. Real pizza takes 5 minutes, not 45.

Personally, I think it's nonsense, but hey, I'm no expert.

And how stupid is it when people start a sentence saying they don't understand, then immediately call it stupid? 😵

Do you guys even like pizza?

I love it, but it definitely doesn't love me.

Jeremy Johnson18 said:03/16. What’s the secret to a killer pizza?

Got into this debate on a chat thread earlier, so I figured I'd start a new thread here to see what you guys think. The argument was basically that you can't make a real pizza without a wood-fired oven.
Personally, I think that's total nonsense, but hey, I'm no expert.

So, what makes a pizza good in your book? Are you even into pizza at all?

Topic of the day moved after post 50 from topic of the day.

I love pizza. For me, it all comes down to having a solid dough—that's the foundation. Also, I'm a big fan of when they use actual slices of ham rather than shredding it into tiny little spaghetti strips. 🙂

Jeremy Johnson18 said:03/16. What’s the secret to a killer pizza?

Got into this debate on a chat thread earlier, so I figured I'd start a new thread here to see what you guys think. The argument was basically that you can't make a real pizza without a wood-fired oven.
Personally, I think that's total nonsense, but hey, I'm no expert.

So, what makes a pizza good in your book? Are you even into pizza at all?

Topic of the day moved after post 50 from topic of the day.

Good dough and good sir.
Those are my big priorities, I guess.

I honestly can't get enough of good pizza 😬 as soon as they opened up the outdoor patio, we immediately booked a table at our absolute favorite pizzeria—even though it’s quite a drive from where we live, we were just craving their food that badly... 🤣

Beyond just having top-tier ingredients, you really need a skilled pizza chef and a high-end oven 🤷

Talking about this makes me want to just order a massive pizza right this second 🙂

Look, besides having a dough expert who actually knows how to knead the right way, I honestly think everything boils down to the cheese and the tomato sauce. I learned this from a foodie friend of mine back in the day: if you can nail a basic pizza—like a classic Margherita—then you’ve mastered the craft. Anyone can make a pizza taste better just by throwing on some San Marzano tomatoes, prosciutto, or arugula. And hey, don't get me wrong, I love all three of those things, and they definitely level up any pie. But if the question is truly about how to make a *good* pizza, strip away all those fancy toppings that act as a crutch and let's see if the foundation actually holds up. If I were running a pizza chef competition, everyone would be making a Margherita.

First off, you need high-quality pizza flour. You aren't going to get a decent dough out of that basic all-purpose stuff from Walmart...

Second, don't skimp on the ingredients... I'm talking about a real whole ham... and please, don't use that fake shredded stuff they sell for pizza; it doesn't even look like actual cheese to me. 😂
Sauce—ketchup is definitely not pizza sauce.
As for the oven... those newer models that hit really high temperatures are perfect, especially if you pair them with a pizza stone. 🙂

I just absolutely love pizza. 🎉

You should actually be looking for the T00 flour rather than the T500; I think you can find it over at Dollar General.
It’s the kind of yeast that you really need to activate first using some warm water and a little bit of sugar.
Then, I guess you should just let it sit in the fridge for about 24 hours so the gluten has enough time to relax.

There’s plenty of oregano and tomato paste, and the cheese is excellent without being overly salty. Honestly, the crust hits that perfect sweet spot—it isn't paper-thin like those authentic Italian styles, but it’s also not that heavy, greasy mess you see in typical American joints. If I were making it myself, I’d definitely toss in some perfectly roasted eggplant, artichokes, or olives.

Or maybe just stick to the cheese and some shaved truffles. Actually, why not go wild and put shaved truffles over all that veggie goodness too? Why not! 🤷

I also really appreciate it when they slice it for me at the shop, because my knives at home are always dull, and let's be real, I'm usually way too hungry and impatient to bother with any cutting myself.

The topic of the day is pizza, though I find myself without any particularly profound insights to offer.🐔

I can’t say I recall ever having a truly terrible slice, with one notable exception involving an overly pretentious place that served a crust so thin and brittle it felt more like a cracker than dough, leaving nothing but a shallow pool of olive oil in the center for some wilted greens to drown in.🤦 Naturally, I left feeling quite hungry and simply ordered a delivery from home instead.🤣

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The secret? I haven't the slightest clue, though I have always found that domestic brands perform better.

darkscout2 said:I love pizza. For me, it all comes down to having a solid dough—that's the foundation. Also, I'm a big fan of when they use actual slices of ham rather than shredding it into tiny little spaghetti strips. 🙂

You totally forgot to mention that you can't stand mozzarella on your pizza. 😉

My take: You need solid dough, high-quality toppings, and honestly, a decent wood-fired oven doesn't hurt either.

ruggedscout76 said:The topic of the day is pizza, though I find myself without any particularly profound insights to offer.🐔

I can’t say I recall ever having a truly terrible slice, with one notable exception involving an overly pretentious place that served a crust so thin and brittle it felt more like a cracker than dough, leaving nothing but a shallow pool of olive oil in the center for some wilted greens to drown in.🤦 Naturally, I left feeling quite hungry and simply ordered a delivery from home instead.🤣

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Is that the same one you guys ordered from Potter last time?😬

Emily Barrett9 said:Is that the same one you guys ordered from Potter last time?😬

🤣 No, that one was actually quite good, though the portion sizes left me feeling rather unsatisfied. 🕺

I suppose this serves as a lesson—one should never claim they’ll only eat half a pizza, even when one isn't particularly hungry. 🥳

Good sir! 🧐

Everything else is just shades of gray ☕

Hands-on work—it’s all about getting into the groove and just enjoying the process. Once you really dive in, things start looking sharper and feeling smoother... which honestly makes it a win for everyone involved. ☕

Dough, cheese, and spices. Sure, you can use spices to mask some mediocre ingredients—I mean, we've all been there—but you just can't hide subpar dough or cheap cheese.

Matthew Castillo5 said:You totally forgot to mention that you can't stand mozzarella on your pizza. 😉

My take: You need solid dough, high-quality toppings, and honestly, a decent wood-fired oven doesn't hurt either.

Well, sure—that's just one ingredient I'm not a fan of. Honestly, I'm not even really a big fan of egg on pizza either.

I don't recall ever having a bad pizza.
Okay, truth be told... except for that one where the crust felt just like some weirdly dry crackers.

But seriously, just like crackers. 🤔
It wasn't even that bad, I was just really confused by those cracker-like bases. 😁

I guess I've realized I have these phases where I either crave homemade food made by someone else or I just want takeout from a local pizzeria.
To me, they feel pretty different... though I suppose they shouldn't. 🙈