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Is my HDD dying?

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Olivia Rogers5 Olivia Rogers5 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Hey, I'll try to lay out my symptoms here so we can figure out what's going on. My gut says the HDD finally kicked the bucket.

1) Booting up the OS and restarting takes forever... I can't even give you an exact time because I never actually see it finish; I always end up holding down the power button just to force it off. It usually takes 2 or 3 forced restarts before things even seem somewhat normal.

2) Trying to access anything on that HDD (music, photos, PDFs) is impossible—everything hangs, everything is sluggish, it's just terrible. Sometimes the whole laptop freezes up. Occasionally I can open a few pictures, but I'm sitting there waiting for like 3 minutes. Other times, File Explorer just locks up entirely and even Task Manager won't help. Even something as basic as checking how much storage is left takes ages—it spends 2 minutes just counting gigabytes. Sometimes I can't even right-click the drive to run error checking. I rarely manage to get that far.

3) When I actually succeed, it says there's an error, so Windows tries to scan and repair it, then restarts the laptop, but nothing changes.

4) Every time the system starts up, it automatically triggers a disk scan. I usually just skip it.

5) Device Manager says the "device is working properly." Drivers are up to date too.

The laptop is a Dell, and I've run hardware tests through SupportAssist several times. Everything comes back clean, like nothing is wrong at all.

I also tried scanning it with some HDD scan software, and it gave me the same "all good" result.

Some context that might help: I had data recovered from this specific failing drive at a data recovery lab about six months ago.

The laptop has two drives: an SSD (C:) and an HDD (D:). The SSD is working perfectly fine.

So, what do you think? Is the HDD the culprit? Is there any diagnostic tool besides Windows that will actually catch the problem? Or better yet, something that can fix it? Or am I just stuck buying a new HDD?
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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joined Nov 2022
#2 ·
To start, maybe grab something like CrystalDiskInfo or HD Tune and see what the SMART status says...
Olivia Rogers5 Olivia Rogers5 NewcomerOP
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joined Jul 2020
#3 ·
Alright, here’s the smart status:

CrystalDiskInfo: View on imgur

HD Tune: View on imgur - this blue part (C7 Interface CRC Error Count), when you click it, says: "There were communication errors. This may be caused by a damaged cable."

Command Prompt: View on imgur

Running an Error Scan on HD Tune right now. It looks like it'll take forever, so I'm just sending what I have for now.
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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joined Nov 2022
#4 ·
Yeah, a CRC error basically means there's a communication breakdown. If this were a desktop, I’d probably just tell you to swap out the SATA cable, but since it's a laptop... maybe try unplugging and replugging the HDD to see if it's seated properly? Though, most laptops use four screws to keep things tight, so it shouldn't be wobbling much. Did the laptop come from the factory with that drive bay, or did you swap out the optical drive for a hard drive? If it's the latter, that adapter might be acting up...

You could also just pull the drive and test it in a desktop PC.
Olivia Rogers5 Olivia Rogers5 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
Honestly, I haven't a clue. I’ve never opened up a laptop myself, and I have no idea if they ever even touched it at Best Buy. As far as I know, the optical drive was always there; nobody messed with it.

I went ahead and bought a new HDD on my own and took it to a technician who knows his stuff to get it installed. He refused, though, telling me the current drive is perfectly fine and there's no point in swapping it. He probably had his hands on the old drive before, too. But regardless of him, I had these exact same issues both before and after seeing him.

Regarding cables, I didn't even realize an HDD used one. Look, I'm not some tech genius—I'm a total amateur, and I wouldn't dream of opening a laptop because I'd probably just break something. So, what's the bottom line? The laptop works fine, but is there a communication error? What does "communication issue" actually mean when you're talking about a drive? Can this even be fixed, and if so, how? Is it normal for a communication glitch to cause the specific problems I'm dealing with?

I doubt that applies to desktops, don't they use 3.5'' drives? Mine is a 2.5''.
Frank Smith10 Frank Smith10 Member
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joined Jul 2020
#6 ·
Looking at the SMART data, this drive shows over 3,000 power-on cycles and more than 5,000 operating hours—given the symptoms you're seeing, I'd say this thing is a prime candidate for replacement. There’s also a chance the SATA cable itself is shot. My suggestion? Pull the drive out and try connecting it externally using a USB 3.0 to SATA III adapter. If it still crashes while hooked up via USB, then you know for sure the drive is defective.
Olivia Rogers5 Olivia Rogers5 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
So, straight to the repair shop? Honestly, I can barely make sense of any of you. 🙂 Do these service centers even carry SATA III cables? Isn't this just a massive money grab? What am I even supposed to tell them? I'm leaning towards the HDD being the issue since it's throwing CRC errors—is telling them to just swap the cable really necessary? It's not exactly rocket science, right? An hour or two tops?
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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joined Nov 2022
#8 ·
Nah, laptops usually don't have a cable... You probably need to crack it open to see if something's just loose, then try testing the hard drive in another PC to figure out if the issue is actually the drive, the laptop itself, or maybe just the OS...
Frank Smith10 Frank Smith10 Member
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joined Jul 2020
#9 ·
fadedorca66 said:Nah, laptops usually don't have a cable... You probably need to crack it open to see if something's just loose, then try testing the hard drive in another PC to figure out if the issue is actually the drive, the laptop itself, or maybe just the OS...

Modern laptops usually feature a dedicated SATA cable—older models used to plug directly into the SATA connector. I definitely agree that the HDD needs to be pulled out and tested elsewhere. Honestly, the easiest path is what I already suggested: just convert it into an external drive using a SATA III to USB 3.0 adapter cable.

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