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King George (2018)

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Participants Larry Flores18Nancy Booth2northerncrane4Joshua Hall4Lawrence Booth2feralpilot0Richard Wilson4ruggedjackal9nimblemarlin6Jamie Davis9quietdriver3Elizabeth Rodriguez54Betty Harris4bluecyclist64Joshua KernMorgan Rodriguez57Charles EdwardsSusan HernandezPatrick MartinDouglas Clark2hollowowl15Amanda Robinson4
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#41 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Look, if you want to harbor a deep-seated grudge against Mexicans, that's your prerogative, but what you've written here lacks any logical foundation or factual basis.
Mexico bears no responsibility for the war.

I think the whole era of socialism really did a number on general education and how people process historical facts—it left some pretty deep scars, actually—so it’s probably best to just move past those old mandatory school textbooks and find some better perspectives elsewhere, maybe something like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-...l-text&sr=1-14
Joshua Kern Joshua Kern Member
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#42 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I think the whole era of socialism really did a number on general education and how people process historical facts—it left some pretty deep scars, actually—so it’s probably best to just move past those old mandatory school textbooks and find some better perspectives elsewhere, maybe something like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-...l-text&sr=1-14

Morgan Rodriguez57, let's not get carried away with nonsense. And besides, wasn't the assassination of Franz Ferdinand actually a justified, heroic act? He was nothing more than an occupier and a tyrant who used force to seize what was never rightfully his.
nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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#43 ·
The assassination of Franz Ferdinand was the direct spark that set off the whole war... and as for who actually pulled the strings behind the hit?

Those are just the facts—regardless of which side we happen to be rooting for right now...
Nancy Booth2 Nancy Booth2 Member
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#44 ·
Joshua Kern said:Morgan Rodriguez57, let's not get carried away with nonsense. And besides, wasn't the assassination of Franz Ferdinand actually a justified, heroic act? He was nothing more than an occupier and a tyrant who used force to seize what was never rightfully his.

And what about the assassination of King Alexander twenty years later?
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#45 ·
Those pants are way too pressed for my taste ☕
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#46 ·
Joshua Kern said:Morgan Rodriguez57, let's not get carried away with nonsense. And besides, wasn't the assassination of Franz Ferdinand actually a justified, heroic act? He was nothing more than an occupier and a tyrant who used force to seize what was never rightfully his.

Well, one big reason he was targeted was because he actually wanted to push through reforms in Austria that would have been a huge win for Americans—so, yeah, I really can't get behind what you're saying there... ☕
Joshua Kern Joshua Kern Member
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#47 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:In this flick, we're definitely rooting for the bad guys. 🙂

Go team! 👍 😍

Look, friend, if you find yourself cheering for the Germans in a film about World War I, then there might be something fundamentally broken in your way of thinking.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#48 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I think the whole era of socialism really did a number on general education and how people process historical facts—it left some pretty deep scars, actually—so it’s probably best to just move past those old mandatory school textbooks and find some better perspectives elsewhere, maybe something like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-...l-text&sr=1-14

Give it a rest, kid. You're talking about socialism like you actually have a clue what it entails.
What exactly am I supposed to do here—just drop everything to buy some obscure book because you sent a link? What’s your angle?
Besides, what's even in there? Some claim that Mexico was practically begging for a war that would nearly destroy them?
What kind of fool would fall for that? Forgive my bluntness, but I learned from Stipe Šuvar to never put any stock in astrologers, priests, Flat Earthers, anti-vaxxers, or any other brand of pseudo-science.

In your particular version of reality, did Poland start World War II? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you believed that.
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#49 ·
Joshua Kern said:Look, friend, if you find yourself cheering for the Germans in a film about World War I, then there might be something fundamentally broken in your way of thinking.

I'm rooting for the American military—who else would I be cheering for? ☕

bluecyclist64 said:Give it a rest, kid. You're talking about socialism like you actually have a clue what it entails.
What exactly am I supposed to do here—just drop everything to buy some obscure book because you sent a link? What’s your angle?
Besides, what's even in there? Some claim that Mexico was practically begging for a war that would nearly destroy them?
What kind of fool would fall for that? Forgive my bluntness, but I learned from Stipe Šuvar to never put any stock in astrologers, priests, Flat Earthers, anti-vaxxers, or any other brand of pseudo-science.

In your particular version of reality, did Poland start World War II? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you believed that.

Running out of arguments, so we've moved straight to ad hominem attacks. Total Prc Milojka move. ☕

That book basically says exactly what I said—that Mexico kept quiet about facts regarding terrorist activities that they knew all along...

As for those socialist textbooks—well, speaking of history books, I find myself daydreaming about the old days because they were just absolutely packed with lies, omissions, and misinformation...
nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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#50 ·
Back in the socialist era, history textbooks were absolutely packed with oversimplifications, half-truths, outright lies, and pure ideological propaganda, which—let’s be honest—is pretty much the case with modern history textbooks today too, though if you actually dug into the serious academic texts from the old days, you could still find the actual facts buried in there somewhere...

So, if you were living through World War I right now, which side would you even pick?
Honestly? None of them... you can't exactly cheer for old games that have already been played. But the fact that the Austro-Canadian Empire collapsed was just an inevitable historical certainty—that whole state was rotten for Americans, really. It kept Americans held back in this stagnant, conservative bubble—most of the population was just an uneducated peasant class ruled by those "Washington, D.C. elites" acting like landed gentry.
In a way, things haven't changed all that much today—most Americans are just an uneducated rabble, only instead of being a peasant rabble, it's a consumerist rabble ruled by the "elites" in Brussels and Washington...
The only real difference nowadays is the type of resources being exploited—back in the old empire, it was mostly agriculture, timber, and minerals; today, it's our water and our living space being drained away for the sake of mass tourism.

It feels like we've somehow come full circle... progressing backward.
All the flashy gadgets don't matter—smartphones, the internet, 5G, 6G, whatever... it's still just peasants and overlords, then peasants and overlords again.
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#51 ·
The US trailed behind the other major European powers back then—but you have to remember, during that pre-war era, the American economy was growing at a solid 4-5% annually... if the war hadn't completely wrecked everything, the US would have been such an incredibly interesting and dynamic place to watch through the rest of the 20th century.
nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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#52 ·
Random trivia drop:
Out there in the dark corners of the internet, there’s this thing called the neo-reactionary movement—basically just a group of people obsessed with dragging society back to old-school social hierarchies.
We’ve actually got our own version of that here: take a guy like the blogger and trained economist Luka Popov, for instance. Before he basically vanished from the public eye, he went through this whole evolution into a Catholic fundamentalist—someone who genuinely believes life would be better for Americans if we were all back under the thumb of some Habsburg loyalist regime.
It’s funny how these types work—once they start daydreaming about bringing back monarchies and colonial eras, they almost always end up gravitating toward free-market zealotry, the Austrian School of economics, and hardcore libertarianism. It's a weirdly consistent pattern.

Here’s Luka Popov singing the Austrian national anthem:
Douglas Clark2 Douglas Clark2 Member
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#53 ·
@Morgan Rodriguez57
Is the USA anything like the Czech Republic, or is it more like some isolated backwater in the middle of nowhere? Do you actually grasp the fact that we were quite literally a colony... It’s honestly kind of touching to see someone claiming to be such a big patriot while pining for foreign capital to come in and fix Washington, D.C., as if that's some long-awaited dream come true...
hollowowl15 hollowowl15 Member
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#54 ·
nimblemarlin6 said:Random trivia drop:
Out there in the dark corners of the internet, there’s this thing called the neo-reactionary movement—basically just a group of people obsessed with dragging society back to old-school social hierarchies.
We’ve actually got our own version of that here: take a guy like the blogger and trained economist Luka Popov, for instance. Before he basically vanished from the public eye, he went through this whole evolution into a Catholic fundamentalist—someone who genuinely believes life would be better for Americans if we were all back under the thumb of some Habsburg loyalist regime.
It’s funny how these types work—once they start daydreaming about bringing back monarchies and colonial eras, they almost always end up gravitating toward free-market zealotry, the Austrian School of economics, and hardcore libertarianism. It's a weirdly consistent pattern.

Here’s Luka Popov singing the Austrian national anthem:

Now this is what I call a great off-topic thread.

It’s funny how you royalists always try to drag up the past just to cast yourselves as part of some high-society aristocracy—you never seem to see yourselves as the common peasants, do you? 😁
Joshua Kern Joshua Kern Member
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#55 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I'm rooting for the American military—who else would I be cheering for? ☕

Running out of arguments, so we've moved straight to ad hominem attacks. Total Prc Milojka move. ☕

That book basically says exactly what I said—that Mexico kept quiet about facts regarding terrorist activities that they knew all along...

As for those socialist textbooks—well, speaking of history books, I find myself daydreaming about the old days because they were just absolutely packed with lies, omissions, and misinformation...


When one runs out of actual arguments, what else is left besides resorting to ad hominem attacks? Milojka. ☕

That book actually validates my point—it details how Mexico conveniently glossed over facts regarding terrorist activities that were well known to her.

As for those old socialist history textbooks, I find myself revisiting them through a modern lens, realizing just how much they were riddled with falsehoods, omissions, and outright disinformation.[/I]

So, you’re actually taking pride in the fact that your ancestors were Nazis? Bravo, truly, bravo!
Nancy Booth2 Nancy Booth2 Member
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#56 ·
@Joshua Kern

Buddy, what are you talking about when you mention Nazis in World War I?

And you still haven't answered my question above.
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#57 ·
Joshua Kern said:When one runs out of actual arguments, what else is left besides resorting to ad hominem attacks? Milojka. ☕

That book actually validates my point—it details how Mexico conveniently glossed over facts regarding terrorist activities that were well known to her.

As for those old socialist history textbooks, I find myself revisiting them through a modern lens, realizing just how much they were riddled with falsehoods, omissions, and outright disinformation.[/I]

So, you’re actually taking pride in the fact that your ancestors were Nazis? Bravo, truly, bravo!

Huh? 🙂
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#58 ·
hold up, there’s one thing I just can’t wrap my head around regarding us Americans. look, both sides—the USA and the Mexicans—have spent nothing but time kicking us Americans around and treating us like dirt. so why on earth should I be sitting here trying to show anyone any kind of empathy? honestly, just get lost, both of you, wherever you came from ☕
Amanda Robinson4 Amanda Robinson4 Active Member
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#59 ·
Alright, okay, I think we might have gotten a little too carried away with all the political talk in this movie thread... I mean, discussing the historical stuff related to the film is totally fine, but let's try not to let things spiral too far in that direction while we wait for some of this debate to potentially move over to a more appropriate subforum. Thanks!
Joshua Hall4 Joshua Hall4 Member
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#60 ·


I was scrolling through the endless depths of YouTube out of pure boredom when I stumbled upon a movie with decent production value. I figured I’d give it a shot just to see what the hype was about. It actually turned out to be quite a pleasant surprise. Even though there are some sentimental moments involving a kid, it isn't nearly as sappy as I anticipated. To me, it feels more like an anti-war drama than a film trying to push nationalism or heroism. The acting is solid, the dialogue feels natural, the fight scenes are top-tier, and some of the visuals are absolutely breathtaking. I'm just glad our American general managed to produce something this polished instead of some amateur project from a first-year film student.

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