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Subtitle sync issues - any recommendations?

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Participants Morgan Ortiz6Larry Ortiz5Joshua Garcia3shadowbison32Henry Morales32ruggedcyclist7Lawrence Barnes64
Morgan Ortiz6 Morgan Ortiz6 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2015
#1 ·
So, I’ve got this movie where the subtitles are totally out of sync—they start off fine, but by the end, they're all over the place. I tried using Subtitle Workshop, which has some great American English support, but I hit a wall. When I load the subtitles and the video file together, the screen just stays black. I can hear the audio perfectly fine, but nothing on screen. I’ve gone through the whole ritual of installing and uninstalling every version of the K-Lite Codec Pack I could find, but no luck. It's just a black void.
Then, I moved on to that highly recommended software Subtitle Edit. Everything works flawlessly there—the video actually shows up—but honestly, I’m a bit lost on how to actually use it. For instance, if I want to sync up the very first word spoken with the very last one, how do I even tackle that?
Is there anyone out there who can point me in the right direction?
Larry Ortiz5 Larry Ortiz5 Regular
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joined May 2020
#2 ·
So, I usually grab movies from torrent sites—let's say I'm downloading something like John Wick from YIFY
. Once the download finishes, I head over to a site like Subscene to hunt down the right subtitle version—something specifically tagged for "John Wick YIFY," for instance. After I've got the subtitle file, I just copy the movie's filename and rename the subtitle file to match it exactly. That way, everything syncs up perfectly, though you obviously have to make sure you add .srt to the end of the filename
.
Just to keep things simple for you, here’s an example of how I do it (see image)
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Morgan Ortiz6 Morgan Ortiz6 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2015
#3 ·
Look, grabbing a movie from a torrent and finding some subtitles isn't the hard part for me. The real headache is when half the subs I download aren't even synced up with the video, and I end up losing my mind trying to get them to line up properly.
For instance, I’ll manage to get the beginning and the end looking perfect, but then by the time the middle rolls around, everything is completely out of whack.
Larry Ortiz5 Larry Ortiz5 Regular
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joined May 2020
#4 ·
Just follow the steps I laid out and you should be good to go—I’ve run into similar headaches myself in the past, but ever since I started doing this a few years back, everything's been smooth sailing. You might also want to grab VLC media player while you're at it; it really helps. Honestly, what have you got to lose by giving it a shot?
Joshua Garcia3 Joshua Garcia3 Active Member
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joined Jun 2008
#5 ·
I usually just handle all that syncing stuff using Time Adjuster, link, link
shadowbison32 shadowbison32 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2015
#6 ·
The whole thing is a codec nightmare. Honestly, when I'm watching a movie in my player, everything is synced up fine, but then I jump over to Subtitle Workshop and suddenly the timing is totally off. So, what I end up doing is just pausing the movie at a specific scene to see exactly where the timing hits, then I just manually nudge the subtitles in the software until they match up.
Henry Morales32 Henry Morales32 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2014
#7 ·
If someone fixes the start and end times but everything goes sideways in the middle, no software is going to save you. You might as well just toss the movie or the subs.
It basically means one of them isn't linear. All that tweaking only works if:

1) The offset between the video and the subs is consistent, which is easy enough to fix.
2) Both the movie and the subtitles are linear (meaning one might be faster than the other, but they both move at a steady pace).

If you can't fix it, it means the sub was made for a non-linear version—like a file with dropped frames—or the movie itself is just wonky like that.

So, if it’s not working, I’d say just hunt for a new sub (usually the easiest fix) or find a different movie. Don't waste your time. That's just my experience after digging through a collection of about 1,400 movies.
ruggedcyclist7 ruggedcyclist7 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2015
#8 ·
Look, focusing on just the first and last lines is usually easiest, though it doesn't always work quite like Henry Morales32 suggests.
So, you basically strip out those extra lines from the translation—like that first one shown in the image
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plus the final two... the ones saying "..translation" and "sourced from..."
image

Then, just fire up the movie in any player and wait for the timestamp of the very first spoken line. Note that down, then skip to the end of the film
(this is the part I struggle with most) and wait for the timestamp of the last spoken line (check the translation so you know roughly what
to look for), then write that time down.

In the Subtitle Workshop, follow the steps in the picture, enter those two timestamps, and save your finished translation (maybe as a SubRip .srt file)
image
Lawrence Barnes64 Lawrence Barnes64 Active Member
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joined Jan 2015
#9 ·
Honestly, I just hit Ctrl plus or minus in BS Player to tweak the subtitle timing on the fly, and boom—problem solved.
Though, usually the player just prompts me to grab some subtitles automatically, and obviously, you just go for whatever one has the highest rating...
I don't even bother hunting for subs myself; the thing always finds them and offers them up the second I start a movie or a show.

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