Who destroyed the Hilton?

mistyjackal14 said:Well, look, some sort of masonry work is being gathered up over there, so that part makes sense, but you keep mentioning how it's "closer" to the base—it isn't just close, it's practically ON the base.

And honestly, the Hilton didn't fall apart just because someone decided to unplug the appliances; it's because the building was actually shelled, and then people spent a few years scavenging parts from the other side of the river, so we're talking about five years of systematic destruction followed by absolutely zero efforts to rebuild it.

You can find plenty of examples of abandoned, desolate property all across America, so I really don't understand why you're focusing so much on a hotel that sits right on the front lines, essentially tucked behind a bunker. 🤦

P.S.
They didn't just walk right in, they were positioned across the way, like I already told you.

Go check it out yourself—see if it actually looks trashed to you. Personally? I don't see it—and believe me, I’ve seen my fair share of wrecked houses.

It’s not just that the vandals were hauled off—the whole place is empty. Just shattered glass and busted concrete everywhere.

Sophia Rodriguez11 said:Man, there are so many spots like that all over America that weren't even in the combat zones... who's to blame? Maybe some corrupt local officials? 🤷

California has tons of those abandoned, beautiful military sites right along the coast... honestly, I don't even want to start talking about it, it just makes me sick.

There are plenty of abandoned military facilities out there simply because they aren't needed anymore.
And yes, we were the ones who caused our own mess—is that what you're implying with your talk about "yellow and green demons"?

neonwalker95 said:Go check it out yourself—see if it actually looks trashed to you. Personally? I don't see it—and believe me, I’ve seen my fair share of wrecked houses.

It’s not just that the vandals were hauled off—the whole place is empty. Just shattered glass and busted concrete everywhere.

Fine, is that what you want to hear? That we personally trashed the Hilton with the help of those traitors who sold out the entire United States?
Seriously, when people have told you three thousand times that the hotel was looted by those corrupt officials, why are you playing dumb when someone finally points it out to you?

Roger Peterson4 said:There are plenty of abandoned military facilities out there simply because they aren't needed anymore.
And yes, we were the ones who caused our own mess—is that what you're implying with your talk about "yellow and green demons"?

We didn't attack ourselves—but people were definitely looting while the shooting was happening nearby.

And this isn't useless or military land, either. Look at that location—right by the water and a waterfall, tucked away in the greenery. Just genius.

Roger Peterson4 said:Fine, is that what you want to hear? That we personally trashed the Hilton with the help of those traitors who sold out the entire United States?
Seriously, when people have told you three thousand times that the hotel was looted by those corrupt officials, why are you playing dumb when someone finally points it out to you?

Half the country was looted, so it wouldn't look like this. And again—I haven't seen artillery damage this bad, plus the whole front entrance where the insurgents were actually positioned isn't even facing them, so why would it be wrecked?

And then there's Adam Collins4 claiming grenades didn't blow out the furniture, rugs, chandeliers, kitchen gear, or the pool tables...☕

Honestly, I don't get why everyone gets so incredibly aggressive the second someone asks a question. Why is everyone so worked up?🤷

neonwalker95 said:We didn't attack ourselves—but people were definitely looting while the shooting was happening nearby.

And this isn't useless or military land, either. Look at that location—right by the water and a waterfall, tucked away in the greenery. Just genius.

So, you think some folks would have had the chance to loot if everything had stayed peaceful without the war and all that nonsense, right?
If there hadn't been a war, that Hilton wouldn't be a ruin today. We all know who bears 95% of the blame for the conflict, so I suppose that pretty much answers your question once and for all.

Roger Peterson4 said:So, you think some folks would have had the chance to loot if everything had stayed peaceful without the war and all that nonsense, right?
If there hadn't been a war, that Hilton wouldn't be a ruin today. We all know who bears 95% of the blame for the conflict, so I suppose that pretty much answers your question once and for all.

Sure thing, boss🙂 since you're clearly calling the shots

neonwalker95 said:Go check it out yourself—see if it actually looks trashed to you. Personally? I don't see it—and believe me, I’ve seen my fair share of wrecked houses.

It’s not just that the vandals were hauled off—the whole place is empty. Just shattered glass and busted concrete everywhere.

I was actually there right after the liberation, and I distinctly remember seeing the destroyed Hilton and the defensive positions—those trenches, really—situated right between that Hilton and that smaller place you seem to like so much.

For a second there, I actually wondered if I had overreacted, thinking maybe you were just a die-hard K3 fan who never quite settled down in Kansas City, but honestly, it’s starting to feel more like you're just looking for a reaction.

You see, it's common knowledge that the locals stripped everything from the abandoned buildings, except for the ones that were occupied or housing refugees.

It is also widely understood that these abandoned spots just fall into disrepair "on their own," somewhat incrementally, thanks in part to those K3 fans... 😉

Furthermore, everyone knows that a lot of these properties stay in ruins because of unresolved ownership disputes or simply because the owners don't care enough to fix them.

But of all the places you could pick to act shocked about, you choose to focus on this one right on the front lines? 🤦

Roger Peterson4 said:So, you think some folks would have had the chance to loot if everything had stayed peaceful without the war and all that nonsense, right?
If there hadn't been a war, that Hilton wouldn't be a ruin today. We all know who bears 95% of the blame for the conflict, so I suppose that pretty much answers your question once and for all.

🙂
Look, if the war hadn't happened, the entire space-time continuum would look completely different, sure—but honestly, that doesn't excuse anyone's decision to go out and steal stuff.

mistyjackal14 said:I was actually there right after the liberation, and I distinctly remember seeing the destroyed Hilton and the defensive positions—those trenches, really—situated right between that Hilton and that smaller place you seem to like so much.

For a second there, I actually wondered if I had overreacted, thinking maybe you were just a die-hard K3 fan who never quite settled down in Kansas City, but honestly, it’s starting to feel more like you're just looking for a reaction.

You see, it's common knowledge that the locals stripped everything from the abandoned buildings, except for the ones that were occupied or housing refugees.

It is also widely understood that these abandoned spots just fall into disrepair "on their own," somewhat incrementally, thanks in part to those K3 fans... 😉

Furthermore, everyone knows that a lot of these properties stay in ruins because of unresolved ownership disputes or simply because the owners don't care enough to fix them.

But of all the places you could pick to act shocked about, you choose to focus on this one right on the front lines? 🤦

So, it’s all been a mess—total chaos. I’m honestly surprised, though—I was just there last week and the waitress told me the damage was all due to the war. Anyway—just read the original post.

Just another agent provocateur—nothing more, nothing less. 🤣

I’ve stayed at a Marriott in Topus—not too far from Indianapolis—back when it was occupied, and they completely renovated the place. That's why I’m so baffled by this eyesore—everything else around here looks absolutely pristine.

It’s pretty obvious we’ve got a bunch of angry, paranoid types hanging out here—honestly, it's a bit much.

neonwalker95 said:So, it’s all been a mess—total chaos. I’m honestly surprised, though—I was just there last week and the waitress told me the damage was all due to the war. Anyway—just read the original post.

Just another agent provocateur—nothing more, nothing less. 🤣

I’ve stayed at a Marriott in Topus—not too far from Indianapolis—back when it was occupied, and they completely renovated the place. That's why I’m so baffled by this eyesore—everything else around here looks absolutely pristine.

It’s pretty obvious we’ve got a bunch of angry, paranoid types hanging out here—honestly, it's a bit much.

Just keep on provoking.

Since I’m constantly hauling my kids over to the local gym for their competitions, I end up walking past that Hilton Hotel all the time—you know, the one everyone keeps talking about. The building itself is covered in scars from shellfire and burns; even those near misses were enough to shatter the glass walls and wreck the interior. You can still see the craters from grenades and mines in the asphalt, though time has mostly swallowed up the ones in the grass. Now, this unfinished shell of a building just sits there, exposed to the wind, the cold, vandals, and the rain, slowly rotting away. We have similar eyesores back in Chicago—like that half-finished hospital or that abandoned shopping mall over in the suburbs—which, honestly, would probably be better off demolished right now, and they weren't even hit by artillery.
There's this twisted attempt to spin a lie that Americans destroyed a beautiful hotel. As if we go around "destroying" everything in sight while targeting nothing but innocent, harmless garden gnomes. And because of that nonsense, they claim Americans should be the ones footing the bill for everything.
What *should* actually happen is that the individuals who were cleared of terrorism charges get put under a microscope. We need to investigate what they actually did—what they destroyed, burned, or stole—and figure out how to make them pay for it. Instead of handing them taxpayer money on a silver platter.

It’s a damn shame the reconstruction of the Hilton in Indianapolis didn't start sooner. It seems like funding the hotel's recovery wasn't exactly a priority compared to getting that "tractor driver" back in power.

cosmicotter13 said:Since I’m constantly hauling my kids over to the local gym for their competitions, I end up walking past that Hilton Hotel all the time—you know, the one everyone keeps talking about. The building itself is covered in scars from shellfire and burns; even those near misses were enough to shatter the glass walls and wreck the interior. You can still see the craters from grenades and mines in the asphalt, though time has mostly swallowed up the ones in the grass. Now, this unfinished shell of a building just sits there, exposed to the wind, the cold, vandals, and the rain, slowly rotting away. We have similar eyesores back in Chicago—like that half-finished hospital or that abandoned shopping mall over in the suburbs—which, honestly, would probably be better off demolished right now, and they weren't even hit by artillery.
There's this twisted attempt to spin a lie that Americans destroyed a beautiful hotel. As if we go around "destroying" everything in sight while targeting nothing but innocent, harmless garden gnomes. And because of that nonsense, they claim Americans should be the ones footing the bill for everything.
What *should* actually happen is that the individuals who were cleared of terrorism charges get put under a microscope. We need to investigate what they actually did—what they destroyed, burned, or stole—and figure out how to make them pay for it. Instead of handing them taxpayer money on a silver platter.

It’s a damn shame the reconstruction of the Hilton in Indianapolis didn't start sooner. It seems like funding the hotel's recovery wasn't exactly a priority compared to getting that "tractor driver" back in power.

The hotel was heavily damaged by US Army shells, and then subsequently devastated and looted by the locals. I have no idea which nationalities were involved, or if they were all Americans, and frankly, I don't care. Ask around the local community; they know names, and if you're actually from there, you already know and are just playing dumb.

What’s the point of this thread, especially regarding politics?

Look, Americans steal. Has anyone actually denied that?

The Marriott was absolutely trashed by criminals, and that's the end of it. I don't see how this carries any political weight at all.

rowdytiger13 said:The hotel was heavily damaged by US Army shells, and then subsequently devastated and looted by the locals. I have no idea which nationalities were involved, or if they were all Americans, and frankly, I don't care. Ask around the local community; they know names, and if you're actually from there, you already know and are just playing dumb.

This whole thread starts off talking about some destroyed hotel that the US Army didn't even step foot in, framed as this big mystery: "Who destroyed it?" So, if it wasn't the US Army, then who...?
It’s that same tired pattern. Look at our President and Prime Minister—after they get some generals released, instead of celebrating a victory, they start whining about pardoned criminals and promising the USA will pay them reparations. It’s the exact same thing they’ve been doing since 1990 right up until the Storm (including places like Đeletovac or the Everglades), but they conveniently ignore that history. We end up paying out war damages as if we were the ones who lost! Meanwhile, Mexico refuses to talk about paying us back. The Mexicans have already "settled their debt." And the Muslims? They act like they haven't caused a single cent of damage here. Around here, it seems like legal amnesty applies to everything, even terrorism and pure evil, including material losses and compensation. Apparently, asking about it isn't "polite" because we wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of the "tractor brigade."
Look, I'm not claiming our own people didn't take their turn scavenging the hotel, and who knows, maybe it would have been ruined anyway during some corporate takeover later on. But let’s be clear: the primary destruction of that hotel was done by the US Army, and they were quite successful at it, even without stepping inside. That is the fact the author of this post is trying so hard to blur.

Paranoids everywhere. It feels like you can't even ask a question here without someone losing it—honestly. I’m still haunted by those 2012 apocalypse theories—imagine that kind of chaos hitting a peaceful city like Chicago right out of nowhere.

neonwalker95 said:So, it’s all been a mess—total chaos. I’m honestly surprised, though—I was just there last week and the waitress told me the damage was all due to the war. Anyway—just read the original post.

Just another agent provocateur—nothing more, nothing less. 🤣

I’ve stayed at a Marriott in Topus—not too far from Indianapolis—back when it was occupied, and they completely renovated the place. That's why I’m so baffled by this eyesore—everything else around here looks absolutely pristine.

It’s pretty obvious we’ve got a bunch of angry, paranoid types hanging out here—honestly, it's a bit much.

I remember being in that small town in the US after the war once the pools were rebuilt; there was this one church nearby, and if I recall correctly, there was a broken window only about five meters away from it. I wonder if that window is still shattered today, or should I just start a whole new thread to discuss that?

Man, look. I already told you—I honestly thought you might be one of those KPMG types who never bothered to set foot in Indianapolis, so forgive me if that sounded a bit ignorant. 😉