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Nicole Ruiz Nicole Ruiz MemberOP
24 messages
joined Dec 2012
#1 ·
First off, I am truly sorry that this thread was locked, especially since the discussion felt so constructive and genuinely engaging. However, I clearly understand why it happened: everything that needed to be said regarding that controversial Advertisement had been aired, the debate was held, a decision was reached, and that’s that. Fine, I accept it.

But let’s just momentarily forget about that Advertisement...

What continues to baffle me are certain logical inconsistencies and contradictions.
I won't be basing this on my own personal musings here; instead, I am going to question yours—specifically, what you all have written.
First, I must offer a huge round of applause to the moderator, Meadow, for her sheer professionalism!

Meadow says:
I just consulted with my colleague who handles most of the Advertisements, and his stance is this: if there were actually a serious Advertisement from a couple living in a polygamous relationship, we would have to deliberate on how to handle it based on the specific wording and the implicit message being sent.


If we examine our Beautiful Our laws, we see that same-sex marriages are illegal—meaning they aren't possible—just as polygamous marriages are. That doesn't mean two people of the same gender can't be in a relationship, just as three people can't be in a relationship. It's just that those types of unions cannot be legally recognized!
Furthermore, in Advertisements, individuals are permitted to state their sexual orientation even if it refers to the same sex. The very term sexual orientation (though, in these ads, they usually just write "gay") implies something physical.
So, if a "gay" person writes that they are looking for a partner, that Advertisement is legitimate. But if a couple writes that they are looking for a third person, then that Advertisement isn't—meaning it requires deliberation. Yet, such relationships are equally unequal/equal before the law 🤷


Meadow goes on to say:
Regarding seeking out new people for the purpose of practicing open relationships, my colleague's stance is negative, and I find myself aligned with him. Not because we personally have an issue with such a lifestyle choice, but because such Advertisements are mostly predicated on finding others for the sake of sexual experimentation.

It’s the exact same thing.
For example:
Greetings!!

A 27-year-old, cute/hot little blonde girl is looking for a female for some hanging out, fun, excitement, and everything else that comes with it (two winking emojis)

I'm from Chicago, feeling fancy...

All other questions via DM
Thanks

Kisses everyone! :*


Here, you all concluded that it wasn't about seeking someone for sexual experimentation... My closed-ended question is: if, instead of describing a single girl, a description of a couple was used while keeping the rest of the text unchanged, would the situation be different?

Example two and the same closed question:

Girl looking for another, for something—we'll see via text or immediately—for what exactly? Movies, drinks, walking along the riverwalk, wandering through the park, all options are open

In my late twenties, located in New York City, I work, and I smile here and there

The main thing is that you are yourself, and that you don't have time for over-analyzing


Moving on:

Meadow writes:
Regarding seeking out new people for the purpose of practicing open relationships, my colleague's stance is negative, and I find myself aligned with him.
Just a few lines later, she writes that the moderators, including herself, are not being subjective 😕

Meadow:
Any kind of swinging, cuckold relationships, sexual experimentation outside of marriage/a relationship, FMM, MFF—no.
(Returning to the paragraph written in a different font regarding equality before the law)

And finally:

rustydrifter10 writes:
On US Advertisements, people look for others for hanging out, going out, talking, or even relationships or FF arrangements. However, it is not the same to write an Advertisement where various options are left open versus specifically asking someone for sex.


Auuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, "what would it even do" to write that?!
That is a total self-goal! 😂🤣
So, looking at the Advertisements here in the USA, apparently it's perfectly fine to hunt for an FWB connection... If I’m reading the fine print correctly—and let me just double-check my understanding—the whole core definition of that term is someone seeking either casual or ongoing sexual encounters. This means people can post ads that directly violate the rules, yet if they phrase things slightly indirectly (as you all so subjectively concluded in our little previous example), then suddenly the post gets nuked? 😕

I truly made a concerted effort to remain completely impartial here, holding back any personal bias until this specific portion of my argument!
I still maintain that there is a glaring issue with inconsistency, a lack of objectivity, and blatant discrimination happening, and honestly, I believe I’ve managed to lay it all out right here using nothing but cold, hard facts.

And you know what the truly hilarious part of this entire circus is? If I were to take nothing but the facts, the guidelines, and the conclusions you all laid out in that last discussion, I could easily whip up an ad that fits perfectly within your own logic—while being much more blunt about breaking that famous rule of yours...

My sincere apologies if you feel like I’m badgering you, really, I don't mean to! Truth be told, I actually find myself looking forward to your replies and starting a fresh debate. Though, naturally, I’d prefer it to be centered on the issue of discrimination... rather than just arguing over one controversial Advertisement.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#2 ·
Nicole Ruiz said:First off, I am truly sorry that this thread was locked, especially since the discussion felt so constructive and genuinely engaging. However, I clearly understand why it happened: everything that needed to be said regarding that controversial Advertisement had been aired, the debate was held, a decision was reached, and that’s that. Fine, I accept it.

But let’s just momentarily forget about that Advertisement...

What continues to baffle me are certain logical inconsistencies and contradictions.
I won't be basing this on my own personal musings here; instead, I am going to question yours—specifically, what you all have written.
First, I must offer a huge round of applause to the moderator, Meadow, for her sheer professionalism!

Meadow says:
I just consulted with my colleague who handles most of the Advertisements, and his stance is this: if there were actually a serious Advertisement from a couple living in a polygamous relationship, we would have to deliberate on how to handle it based on the specific wording and the implicit message being sent.


If we examine our Beautiful Our laws, we see that same-sex marriages are illegal—meaning they aren't possible—just as polygamous marriages are. That doesn't mean two people of the same gender can't be in a relationship, just as three people can't be in a relationship. It's just that those types of unions cannot be legally recognized!
Furthermore, in Advertisements, individuals are permitted to state their sexual orientation even if it refers to the same sex. The very term sexual orientation (though, in these ads, they usually just write "gay") implies something physical.
So, if a "gay" person writes that they are looking for a partner, that Advertisement is legitimate. But if a couple writes that they are looking for a third person, then that Advertisement isn't—meaning it requires deliberation. Yet, such relationships are equally unequal/equal before the law 🤷


Meadow goes on to say:
Regarding seeking out new people for the purpose of practicing open relationships, my colleague's stance is negative, and I find myself aligned with him. Not because we personally have an issue with such a lifestyle choice, but because such Advertisements are mostly predicated on finding others for the sake of sexual experimentation.

It’s the exact same thing.
For example:
Greetings!!

A 27-year-old, cute/hot little blonde girl is looking for a female for some hanging out, fun, excitement, and everything else that comes with it (two winking emojis)

I'm from Chicago, feeling fancy...

All other questions via DM
Thanks

Kisses everyone! :*


Here, you all concluded that it wasn't about seeking someone for sexual experimentation... My closed-ended question is: if, instead of describing a single girl, a description of a couple was used while keeping the rest of the text unchanged, would the situation be different?

Example two and the same closed question:

Girl looking for another, for something—we'll see via text or immediately—for what exactly? Movies, drinks, walking along the riverwalk, wandering through the park, all options are open

In my late twenties, located in New York City, I work, and I smile here and there

The main thing is that you are yourself, and that you don't have time for over-analyzing


Moving on:

Meadow writes:
Regarding seeking out new people for the purpose of practicing open relationships, my colleague's stance is negative, and I find myself aligned with him.
Just a few lines later, she writes that the moderators, including herself, are not being subjective 😕

Meadow:
Any kind of swinging, cuckold relationships, sexual experimentation outside of marriage/a relationship, FMM, MFF—no.
(Returning to the paragraph written in a different font regarding equality before the law)

And finally:

rustydrifter10 writes:
On US Advertisements, people look for others for hanging out, going out, talking, or even relationships or FF arrangements. However, it is not the same to write an Advertisement where various options are left open versus specifically asking someone for sex.


Auuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, "what would it even do" to write that?!
That is a total self-goal! 😂🤣
So, looking at the Advertisements here in the USA, apparently it's perfectly fine to hunt for an FWB connection... If I’m reading the fine print correctly—and let me just double-check my understanding—the whole core definition of that term is someone seeking either casual or ongoing sexual encounters. This means people can post ads that directly violate the rules, yet if they phrase things slightly indirectly (as you all so subjectively concluded in our little previous example), then suddenly the post gets nuked? 😕

I truly made a concerted effort to remain completely impartial here, holding back any personal bias until this specific portion of my argument!
I still maintain that there is a glaring issue with inconsistency, a lack of objectivity, and blatant discrimination happening, and honestly, I believe I’ve managed to lay it all out right here using nothing but cold, hard facts.

And you know what the truly hilarious part of this entire circus is? If I were to take nothing but the facts, the guidelines, and the conclusions you all laid out in that last discussion, I could easily whip up an ad that fits perfectly within your own logic—while being much more blunt about breaking that famous rule of yours...

My sincere apologies if you feel like I’m badgering you, really, I don't mean to! Truth be told, I actually find myself looking forward to your replies and starting a fresh debate. Though, naturally, I’d prefer it to be centered on the issue of discrimination... rather than just arguing over one controversial Advertisement.

Honey, please, let’s try reading with a little more comprehension, okay? I specifically said that while some people might be looking for that kind of thing in general, they aren't allowed to be direct or explicit about it in their Advertisement. Someone can post an ad saying they're looking for a walking buddy or just someone to chat with, and then they can work out the details for sex, an FWB setup, or whatever else via private messages. An Advertisement simply can't be worded in a way that makes it blindingly obvious what they're really after. That's the distinction.

And that right there is exactly why certain threads get locked.

There isn't any sexual discrimination happening here—anyone is free to seek out the company of a man or a woman, and I don't see anything wrong with mentioning sexual orientation. Likewise, your lifestyle choice shouldn't stop you from posting an Advertisement. The issue is strictly about how the ad is phrased and whether it’s so blatant that it’s clearly just a hookup request, which would be a total violation of the rules.
Nicole Ruiz Nicole Ruiz MemberOP
24 messages
joined Dec 2012
#3 ·
rustydrifter10 said:Honey, please, let’s try reading with a little more comprehension, okay? I specifically said that while some people might be looking for that kind of thing in general, they aren't allowed to be direct or explicit about it in their Advertisement. Someone can post an ad saying they're looking for a walking buddy or just someone to chat with, and then they can work out the details for sex, an FWB setup, or whatever else via private messages. An Advertisement simply can't be worded in a way that makes it blindingly obvious what they're really after. That's the distinction.

And that right there is exactly why certain threads get locked.

There isn't any sexual discrimination happening here—anyone is free to seek out the company of a man or a woman, and I don't see anything wrong with mentioning sexual orientation. Likewise, your lifestyle choice shouldn't stop you from posting an Advertisement. The issue is strictly about how the ad is phrased and whether it’s so blatant that it’s clearly just a hookup request, which would be a total violation of the rules.

Oh, I am quite aware of that. Truly, I was fully aware of it even when I wrote that out—that is to say, when I was quoting you...
I simply wanted to hear/read this. 😁
We will certainly stick to those guidelines moving forward 😉

rustydrifter10 said:Honey, please, let’s try reading with a little more comprehension, okay? I specifically said that while some people might be looking for that kind of thing in general, they aren't allowed to be direct or explicit about it in their Advertisement. Someone can post an ad saying they're looking for a walking buddy or just someone to chat with, and then they can work out the details for sex, an FWB setup, or whatever else via private messages. An Advertisement simply can't be worded in a way that makes it blindingly obvious what they're really after. That's the distinction.

And that right there is exactly why certain threads get locked.

There isn't any sexual discrimination happening here—anyone is free to seek out the company of a man or a woman, and I don't see anything wrong with mentioning sexual orientation. Likewise, your lifestyle choice shouldn't stop you from posting an Advertisement. The issue is strictly about how the ad is phrased and whether it’s so blatant that it’s clearly just a hookup request, which would be a total violation of the rules.

I kindly ask that you support that by answering my closed questions; essentially, just give me a yes or a no and we can consider the matter settled... ☕
Nicole Ruiz Nicole Ruiz MemberOP
24 messages
joined Dec 2012
#4 ·
Still just sitting here, waiting on a response.
I’m feeling a bit on edge... ☕
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
299 messages
joined Apr 2016
#5 ·
And why exactly is it against the rules to look for entertainment in the form of sex in an Advertisement?
At the end of the day, almost everyone posting those ads is essentially looking for a hookup. It hardly matters whether they want something serious or just a casual fling.
Nicole Ruiz Nicole Ruiz MemberOP
24 messages
joined Dec 2012
#6 ·
slywolf45 said:And why exactly is it against the rules to look for entertainment in the form of sex in an Advertisement?
At the end of the day, almost everyone posting those ads is essentially looking for a hookup. It hardly matters whether they want something serious or just a casual fling.

You don't say... 😁
The old-timers always say you can look for a casual fling, but you can't sound like you're just browsing a catalog at a strip club...

Oh, come on, how do you not get it? 🤣
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
299 messages
joined Apr 2016
#7 ·
Nicole Ruiz said:You don't say... 😁
The old-timers always say you can look for a casual fling, but you can't sound like you're just browsing a catalog at a strip club...

Oh, come on, how do you not get it? 🤣

Ahaaa, I see where this is going.

Saying "Couple looking to hang out with another couple or individual ;wink wink:" is perfectly fine,
but "Couple seeking partner for sex" is strictly off-limits.

Makes sense. I suppose sex is a sin, and this forum is basically a digital monastery.
Dennis Jackson38 Dennis Jackson38 Member
34 messages
joined Feb 2011
#8 ·
What truly troubles me—despite the genuine efforts of a colleague who is otherwise quite decent and frequently active over at PIK—is the specific way certain moderator decisions are phrased. It seems that certain individuals, particularly when Meadow is involved, tend to rely on expressions such as: "Personally, both my colleague's view and my own regarding open relationships are negative."

I have observed this pattern on several occasions now, and I have made it a point to speak up and suggest that this practice needs to cease immediately.

When an individual holds a moderator position, and as I have already pointed out to them directly on PIK, they really should refrain from constantly injecting their PERSONAL opinions and convictions into any discussion involving the making of moderator decisions.

Not only does this fall short of being "professional," but it fundamentally contradicts the very rules of the platform and the core essence of the moderator role itself.

As a regular user, especially when we are navigating delicate topics like discrimination or prejudice against someone's lifestyle choices, I find that I am simply NOT interested in the moderator's PERSONAL stances. Furthermore, I believe that any sort of personal intolerance toward matters of individual freedom should NEVER be voiced while commenting on moderator actions or any other official decisions.

When moderators are performing their duties, they are executing administrative functions and necessary corrections; they are not there to broadcast PERSONAL views, moral principles, or denials of certain lifestyles.

Of course, within a standard discussion thread where we act as fellow forum members, those opinions are fine, but certainly not within the context of PIK.
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
716 messages
joined Jan 2023
#9 ·
Dennis Jackson38 said:What truly troubles me—despite the genuine efforts of a colleague who is otherwise quite decent and frequently active over at PIK—is the specific way certain moderator decisions are phrased. It seems that certain individuals, particularly when Meadow is involved, tend to rely on expressions such as: "Personally, both my colleague's view and my own regarding open relationships are negative."

I have observed this pattern on several occasions now, and I have made it a point to speak up and suggest that this practice needs to cease immediately.

When an individual holds a moderator position, and as I have already pointed out to them directly on PIK, they really should refrain from constantly injecting their PERSONAL opinions and convictions into any discussion involving the making of moderator decisions.

Not only does this fall short of being "professional," but it fundamentally contradicts the very rules of the platform and the core essence of the moderator role itself.

As a regular user, especially when we are navigating delicate topics like discrimination or prejudice against someone's lifestyle choices, I find that I am simply NOT interested in the moderator's PERSONAL stances. Furthermore, I believe that any sort of personal intolerance toward matters of individual freedom should NEVER be voiced while commenting on moderator actions or any other official decisions.

When moderators are performing their duties, they are executing administrative functions and necessary corrections; they are not there to broadcast PERSONAL views, moral principles, or denials of certain lifestyles.

Of course, within a standard discussion thread where we act as fellow forum members, those opinions are fine, but certainly not within the context of PIK.

So, what exactly is this colleague's take on adultery?

Essentially, an Advertisement where a couple together was looking for a side piece got nuked—(and by the way, they also later deleted that other Advertisement seeking physical contact, even though the moderator explicitly stated she didn't see anything wrong with it 😬)—yet there’s still a perfectly valid thread sitting right there where a married man is scouting for a girl.

Now, I suppose we’re all meant to just "assume" that this married guy is just looking for someone to play Sudoku with (and definitely not—eek!—sex), or maybe it's perfectly fine if only one half of a couple seeks out a partner, but heaven forbid they both do it together.
Dennis Jackson38 Dennis Jackson38 Member
34 messages
joined Feb 2011
#10 ·
First off, let’s be clear: there is absolutely nothing illegal or against any US laws regarding a man looking for a woman to hang out with. 😁 The only real downside is the possibility that his Advertisement might just sit there without anyone responding.

Secondly, I was specifically addressing the issue of moderators displaying "negative personal biases toward certain types of relationships" while debating their own decisions. You have frequently pointed out yourself that such attitudes have no place in moderation, so I am quite puzzled by your sudden surprise at my observation. 😁

Thirdly, a couple seeking a third person to join them isn't any "nastier" than a girl looking for something casual in the grand scheme of things.

If the argument is about the specific WAY an Advertisement is phrased, then surely everyone should have the right to express their personal life choices through their own unique wording, shouldn't they?

Otherwise, are we going to start deleting posts from people whose worldviews don't align with those who prefer "long, romantic walks in the park" and "everything the youth enjoy"?
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
716 messages
joined Jan 2023
#11 ·
Dennis Jackson38 said:First off, let’s be clear: there is absolutely nothing illegal or against any US laws regarding a man looking for a woman to hang out with. 😁 The only real downside is the possibility that his Advertisement might just sit there without anyone responding.

Secondly, I was specifically addressing the issue of moderators displaying "negative personal biases toward certain types of relationships" while debating their own decisions. You have frequently pointed out yourself that such attitudes have no place in moderation, so I am quite puzzled by your sudden surprise at my observation. 😁

Thirdly, a couple seeking a third person to join them isn't any "nastier" than a girl looking for something casual in the grand scheme of things.

If the argument is about the specific WAY an Advertisement is phrased, then surely everyone should have the right to express their personal life choices through their own unique wording, shouldn't they?

Otherwise, are we going to start deleting posts from people whose worldviews don't align with those who prefer "long, romantic walks in the park" and "everything the youth enjoy"?

Of course it isn't—I’m not sure we’re even on the same page here, because my point was something else entirely: the distinction between saying "the two of us would like to hang out with a girl"—which is clearly a hunt for sex—and saying "I am married, I am looking for a woman to spend time with, someone without prejudices." That is a massive difference.
steelskipper5 steelskipper5 Active Member
176 messages
joined Feb 2010
#12 ·
Dennis Jackson38 said:First off, let’s be clear: there is absolutely nothing illegal or against any US laws regarding a man looking for a woman to hang out with. 😁 The only real downside is the possibility that his Advertisement might just sit there without anyone responding.

Secondly, I was specifically addressing the issue of moderators displaying "negative personal biases toward certain types of relationships" while debating their own decisions. You have frequently pointed out yourself that such attitudes have no place in moderation, so I am quite puzzled by your sudden surprise at my observation. 😁

Thirdly, a couple seeking a third person to join them isn't any "nastier" than a girl looking for something casual in the grand scheme of things.

If the argument is about the specific WAY an Advertisement is phrased, then surely everyone should have the right to express their personal life choices through their own unique wording, shouldn't they?

Otherwise, are we going to start deleting posts from people whose worldviews don't align with those who prefer "long, romantic walks in the park" and "everything the youth enjoy"?

Since, you know, young people actually care about sex and drugs, I say we just start interpreting the phrase “everything young people love” exactly like that.

We all know what you really meant. 🥳
Kenneth Garcia4 Kenneth Garcia4 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jun 2013
#13 ·
slywolf45 said:Ahaaa, I see where this is going.

Saying "Couple looking to hang out with another couple or individual ;wink wink:" is perfectly fine,
but "Couple seeking partner for sex" is strictly off-limits.

Makes sense. I suppose sex is a sin, and this forum is basically a digital monastery.

It’s kind of like when they used to ban those poor fetishists who wanted to buy used tights or underwear because it was considered illegal commerce... 😳
I mean, personally, I find it weird. I don't know anyone actually buying or selling that stuff, but if someone wants to—what's really the issue? It doesn't seem any weirder or grosser than people selling used makeup on an eBay thread. 🙄
Nicole Ruiz Nicole Ruiz MemberOP
24 messages
joined Dec 2012
#14 ·
Nicholas King said:So, what exactly is this colleague's take on adultery?

Essentially, an Advertisement where a couple together was looking for a side piece got nuked—(and by the way, they also later deleted that other Advertisement seeking physical contact, even though the moderator explicitly stated she didn't see anything wrong with it 😬)—yet there’s still a perfectly valid thread sitting right there where a married man is scouting for a girl.

Now, I suppose we’re all meant to just "assume" that this married guy is just looking for someone to play Sudoku with (and definitely not—eek!—sex), or maybe it's perfectly fine if only one half of a couple seeks out a partner, but heaven forbid they both do it together.

I’m honestly quite pleased that you’re also attempting to point out some of these logical inconsistencies—truly, I am! It's refreshing to see someone else noticing the cracks in the foundation. But, as you can clearly see from the current situation, there doesn't seem to be any massive payoff for doing so... It's all a bit futile, isn't it? Much like trying to fix a leaky faucet in an old house while the landlord is busy staring at the clouds instead of grabbing a wrench! Anyway, just my two cents!
I laid it all out for them—really hammered home all those contradictions, the blatant inequalities, and just how inconsistent the whole thing is... much like you did! Honestly, I’m kicking myself for not realizing that once they shut down my thread, the entire debate just migrated right over to the admin questions section.
But honestly, what really ought to be weighing on all of us here is the way the moderators handled this entire situation. I mean, really! I’ve always considered myself to have quite a developed knack for argumentation—I can hold my own in just about any debate, you know? It's a skill I pride myself on. When I was actually sitting down with them... Proven! It’s honestly ridiculous—they kept locking my threads just because people were making mistakes! And get this: when the conversation started drifting toward that exact issue on a different thread, the mods stepped in and shut the whole thing down immediately. It happened right as you, Nicholas King, started getting aggressive with your points. I think they realized pretty quickly that you can actually make their lives a living hell if you start dismantling their logic with those sharp arguments of yours!🙂 )
So, after I finally backed rustydrifter10 into a corner and demanded a straight "yes" or "no" answer... suddenly, everyone just decides to look the other way? This whole thread is being completely ignored! Seriously!
And then—get this—on top of everything else, they actually go ahead and scrub the Advertisements we used to build our entire case! It’s just unbelievable. They were defending those exact same posts like they were gospel, acting like there wasn't a single question about how legitimate they were... and then, poof, gone! Just wiped clean.
It’s exactly like you said! Honestly, they could have just been upfront about it. They could have just looked us in the eye and said, "Look, we completely screwed the pooch on this one." That doesn't mean the criteria are magically going to change overnight, but at least there would be some accountability! They should have just owned the mistake, made their call on how things are going to work moving forward, and then stuck to it. Just total transparency—that's all anyone really asks for!
There were inconsistencies everywhere, just total illogicality, and honestly? It felt like pure discrimination.

Listen, let me be perfectly clear about this—the moderators over at the US subforum are absolutely adamant that they won't have their Advertisements turned into some kind of tawdry little sex-classifieds section! It’s just not happening!
Look, if you really think about it... the drive for sex is just one of those fundamental survival instincts! It’s right up there on the same level as the basic necessity to grab a bite to eat, stay hydrated, or simply take a breath of air into your lungs! It's all part of the biological programming, isn't it? Just pure, raw instinct!
Having advertisements on this forum while completely stripping away any sexual component is... well... it’s kind of like opening up this gorgeous, perfectly curated lounge where every single alcoholic drink you could possibly dream of is sitting there for free, but then strictly forbidding anyone from actually taking a sip! It just doesn't make sense, does it?

And here’s a little song dedicated to all those colorful nicknames out there! I just stumbled upon this video—honestly, my mind is completely blown! I was sitting here with my morning coffee, just scrolling through, when this popped up on my feed. It’s one of those things that makes you stop dead in your tracks and just... stare. You know that feeling? Like the world suddenly shifts an inch to the left? Anyway, I had to share it. There is something about the way this is presented that feels so incredibly profound, yet so simple at the same time. It actually reminded me of a conversation I had last summer while I was driving through the Rockies—just me, some old jazz on the radio, and this overwhelming sense of scale. Life is just so much bigger than our daily grind, isn't it? We get so caught up in the emails and the errands, but then you see something like this and realize we're all just tiny specks in this massive, beautiful universe. I mean, seriously, give it a watch. It really is something special. I'll be thinking about this one for a long, long time. Just... wow. Truly.

Honestly, I really think you all just completely blew it this time—total amateurs, if you ask me!☕
Ashley Bishop4 Ashley Bishop4 Member
19 messages
joined Jan 2013
#15 ·
Nicole Ruiz said:I’m honestly quite pleased that you’re also attempting to point out some of these logical inconsistencies—truly, I am! It's refreshing to see someone else noticing the cracks in the foundation. But, as you can clearly see from the current situation, there doesn't seem to be any massive payoff for doing so... It's all a bit futile, isn't it? Much like trying to fix a leaky faucet in an old house while the landlord is busy staring at the clouds instead of grabbing a wrench! Anyway, just my two cents!
I laid it all out for them—really hammered home all those contradictions, the blatant inequalities, and just how inconsistent the whole thing is... much like you did! Honestly, I’m kicking myself for not realizing that once they shut down my thread, the entire debate just migrated right over to the admin questions section.
But honestly, what really ought to be weighing on all of us here is the way the moderators handled this entire situation. I mean, really! I’ve always considered myself to have quite a developed knack for argumentation—I can hold my own in just about any debate, you know? It's a skill I pride myself on. When I was actually sitting down with them... Proven! It’s honestly ridiculous—they kept locking my threads just because people were making mistakes! And get this: when the conversation started drifting toward that exact issue on a different thread, the mods stepped in and shut the whole thing down immediately. It happened right as you, Nicholas King, started getting aggressive with your points. I think they realized pretty quickly that you can actually make their lives a living hell if you start dismantling their logic with those sharp arguments of yours!🙂 )
So, after I finally backed rustydrifter10 into a corner and demanded a straight "yes" or "no" answer... suddenly, everyone just decides to look the other way? This whole thread is being completely ignored! Seriously!
And then—get this—on top of everything else, they actually go ahead and scrub the Advertisements we used to build our entire case! It’s just unbelievable. They were defending those exact same posts like they were gospel, acting like there wasn't a single question about how legitimate they were... and then, poof, gone! Just wiped clean.
It’s exactly like you said! Honestly, they could have just been upfront about it. They could have just looked us in the eye and said, "Look, we completely screwed the pooch on this one." That doesn't mean the criteria are magically going to change overnight, but at least there would be some accountability! They should have just owned the mistake, made their call on how things are going to work moving forward, and then stuck to it. Just total transparency—that's all anyone really asks for!
There were inconsistencies everywhere, just total illogicality, and honestly? It felt like pure discrimination.

Listen, let me be perfectly clear about this—the moderators over at the US subforum are absolutely adamant that they won't have their Advertisements turned into some kind of tawdry little sex-classifieds section! It’s just not happening!
Look, if you really think about it... the drive for sex is just one of those fundamental survival instincts! It’s right up there on the same level as the basic necessity to grab a bite to eat, stay hydrated, or simply take a breath of air into your lungs! It's all part of the biological programming, isn't it? Just pure, raw instinct!
Having advertisements on this forum while completely stripping away any sexual component is... well... it’s kind of like opening up this gorgeous, perfectly curated lounge where every single alcoholic drink you could possibly dream of is sitting there for free, but then strictly forbidding anyone from actually taking a sip! It just doesn't make sense, does it?

And here’s a little song dedicated to all those colorful nicknames out there! I just stumbled upon this video—honestly, my mind is completely blown! I was sitting here with my morning coffee, just scrolling through, when this popped up on my feed. It’s one of those things that makes you stop dead in your tracks and just... stare. You know that feeling? Like the world suddenly shifts an inch to the left? Anyway, I had to share it. There is something about the way this is presented that feels so incredibly profound, yet so simple at the same time. It actually reminded me of a conversation I had last summer while I was driving through the Rockies—just me, some old jazz on the radio, and this overwhelming sense of scale. Life is just so much bigger than our daily grind, isn't it? We get so caught up in the emails and the errands, but then you see something like this and realize we're all just tiny specks in this massive, beautiful universe. I mean, seriously, give it a watch. It really is something special. I'll be thinking about this one for a long, long time. Just... wow. Truly.

Honestly, I really think you all just completely blew it this time—total amateurs, if you ask me!☕

Spot on, nothing more to say.🙂

Your Advertisement wasn't taken down because of "discrimination." It was removed because the format, the content, and the overall tone just didn't meet the criteria established in the very first post of this thread.

When you filed your complaint about the removal, all you did was vent—asking why they deleted yours but didn't delete his, even though he’s breaking the rules too.🙂

So, after feeling like you were treated unfairly, your way of fixing it is to demand that everyone else gets treated unfairly, too.🤷

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the moderators.😳

But as a regular on the US Forum, I think they actually made the right call here. 👍
Nicole Ruiz Nicole Ruiz MemberOP
24 messages
joined Dec 2012
#16 ·
Ashley Bishop4 said:Spot on, nothing more to say.🙂

Your Advertisement wasn't taken down because of "discrimination." It was removed because the format, the content, and the overall tone just didn't meet the criteria established in the very first post of this thread.

When you filed your complaint about the removal, all you did was vent—asking why they deleted yours but didn't delete his, even though he’s breaking the rules too.🙂

So, after feeling like you were treated unfairly, your way of fixing it is to demand that everyone else gets treated unfairly, too.🤷

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the moderators.😳

But as a regular on the US Forum, I think they actually made the right call here. 👍

It met the criteria! It was deleted because of discrimination, period.

Ashley Bishop4 said:Spot on, nothing more to say.🙂

Your Advertisement wasn't taken down because of "discrimination." It was removed because the format, the content, and the overall tone just didn't meet the criteria established in the very first post of this thread.

When you filed your complaint about the removal, all you did was vent—asking why they deleted yours but didn't delete his, even though he’s breaking the rules too.🙂

So, after feeling like you were treated unfairly, your way of fixing it is to demand that everyone else gets treated unfairly, too.🤷

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the moderators.😳

But as a regular on the US Forum, I think they actually made the right call here. 👍

I wasn't whining! 🙂
If there is no discrimination, then the rules should apply equally to everyone.

Ashley Bishop4 said:Spot on, nothing more to say.🙂

Your Advertisement wasn't taken down because of "discrimination." It was removed because the format, the content, and the overall tone just didn't meet the criteria established in the very first post of this thread.

When you filed your complaint about the removal, all you did was vent—asking why they deleted yours but didn't delete his, even though he’s breaking the rules too.🙂

So, after feeling like you were treated unfairly, your way of fixing it is to demand that everyone else gets treated unfairly, too.🤷

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the moderators.😳

But as a regular on the US Forum, I think they actually made the right call here. 👍

No.
Ashley Bishop4 said:Spot on, nothing more to say.🙂

Your Advertisement wasn't taken down because of "discrimination." It was removed because the format, the content, and the overall tone just didn't meet the criteria established in the very first post of this thread.

When you filed your complaint about the removal, all you did was vent—asking why they deleted yours but didn't delete his, even though he’s breaking the rules too.🙂

So, after feeling like you were treated unfairly, your way of fixing it is to demand that everyone else gets treated unfairly, too.🤷

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the moderators.😳

But as a regular on the US Forum, I think they actually made the right call here. 👍

Get in line.☕

Ashley Bishop4 said:Spot on, nothing more to say.🙂

Your Advertisement wasn't taken down because of "discrimination." It was removed because the format, the content, and the overall tone just didn't meet the criteria established in the very first post of this thread.

When you filed your complaint about the removal, all you did was vent—asking why they deleted yours but didn't delete his, even though he’s breaking the rules too.🙂

So, after feeling like you were treated unfairly, your way of fixing it is to demand that everyone else gets treated unfairly, too.🤷

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the moderators.😳

But as a regular on the US Forum, I think they actually made the right call here. 👍

I definitely respect where you're coming from, though.
Personally? I just don't see it that way at all.
Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jun 2008
#17 ·
Nicole Ruiz said:It met the criteria! It was deleted because of discrimination, period.

I wasn't whining! 🙂
If there is no discrimination, then the rules should apply equally to everyone.

No.

Get in line.☕

I definitely respect where you're coming from, though.
Personally? I just don't see it that way at all.

It wasn't deleted for being discriminatory; honestly, based on the Advertisement, you aren't exactly a Lonely Heart—you seem to have quite a line forming.

I suppose there are plenty of websites out there for those kinds of things, so maybe just try looking there instead.

🙂
Nicole Ruiz Nicole Ruiz MemberOP
24 messages
joined Dec 2012
#18 ·
Jacob Wood9 said:It wasn't deleted for being discriminatory; honestly, based on the Advertisement, you aren't exactly a Lonely Heart—you seem to have quite a line forming.

I suppose there are plenty of websites out there for those kinds of things, so maybe just try looking there instead.

🙂

Completely irrelevant. 🤷
Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jun 2008
#19 ·
Nicole Ruiz said:Completely irrelevant. 🤷

Well, I suppose how "irrelevant" it is depends entirely on your perspective, doesn't it?

For instance, if I were to head down to the pet section—you know, where people post Advertisements offering free cats or dogs—and decided to post an Ad for livestock meant for slaughter, I imagine they'd probably tell me I'm in the wrong sub-forum.
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
716 messages
joined Jan 2023
#20 ·
Jacob Wood9 said:It wasn't deleted for being discriminatory; honestly, based on the Advertisement, you aren't exactly a Lonely Heart—you seem to have quite a line forming.

I suppose there are plenty of websites out there for those kinds of things, so maybe just try looking there instead.

🙂

Rather than resorting to arrogance or these weak attempts at being witty, it would be far more productive—and frankly, more interesting—to hear actual answers to specific questions:

- The moderator explicitly stated right here that there was absolutely nothing objectionable about an Advertisement where a woman is quite literally seeking physical contact. Yet, following this entire ordeal, even that post was removed. Did the moderator change her mind after the fact, or did she simply lose track of her own logic, or perhaps something else entirely?

- What is the tangible difference between that "problematic" post and the one where a married man is looking for "a woman who understands him"—an ad that has been sitting on the Classifieds for days now? Does the moderation team honestly believe a married man doesn't have options—or, more importantly, do they think a married man isn't looking for sex?

Any attempt at a similarly witty response—like the quote above, or some timely sarcasm aimed at the same two tired jokes—will serve as nothing more than a sign of total confusion and utter helplessness.

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