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The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009)

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Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
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#101 ·
To be completely honest, I actually liked both versions... I gave them the exact same rating.
The sequels from Sweden were honestly pretty mediocre, so I’m really hoping the Americans can turn things around.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#102 ·
Lisa Alvarez4 said:If you actually read the books, you'd realize Fincher's version is actually the better one and stays truer to Stieg Larsson. Noomi Rapace is a great actress, but her Lisbeth isn't Lisbeth from the books at all. It's almost like a different character.
Fincher did a waaaay better job. Even my friend from Sweden says so.

Come on, man, give me some actual reasons why Fincher's movie or Lisbeth is supposedly better than the Swedish one. It’s basically just a rip-off, there's barely any difference between them.🤷
Kyle Cruz Kyle Cruz Newcomer
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#103 ·
It’s blatant plagiarism, especially since both movies were adapted from the exact same book. 😂😂😂😂
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#104 ·
Kyle Cruz said:It’s blatant plagiarism, especially since both movies were adapted from the exact same book. 😂😂😂😂

Maybe try actually using your brain while you read, man. It’s not even a "rip-off" of the Swedish version, it's just...
:mooooron mooooron:
Daniel Perez6 Daniel Perez6 Active Member
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#105 ·
Lisa Alvarez4 said:If you actually read the books, you'd realize Fincher's version is actually the better one and stays truer to Stieg Larsson. Noomi Rapace is a great actress, but her Lisbeth isn't Lisbeth from the books at all. It's almost like a different character.
Fincher did a waaaay better job. Even my friend from Sweden says so.

Did you actually read the books? Like, did you finish all three parts, watch the movie, and then decide to drop this take? 😲

I figured you were joking. 🙂
Because, honestly, Noomi practically walked right off the pages of those books. Oh, absolutely! 🙂
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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#106 ·
Kyle Cruz said:Fincher never even watched the Swedish version...

Who's saying that? Fincher? Yeah, riiiiiiighttttttt.....

Lisa Alvarez4 said:If you actually read the books, you'd realize Fincher's version is actually the better one and stays truer to Stieg Larsson. Noomi Rapace is a great actress, but her Lisbeth isn't Lisbeth from the books at all. It's almost like a different character.
Fincher did a waaaay better job. Even my friend from Sweden says so.

How can it be more faithful to the book if they have one female lead being tracked down in New York City instead of halfway across the world?
Kyle Cruz Kyle Cruz Newcomer
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#107 ·
Who else could it possibly be? You? You bet it is!

It’s impossible to call something a rip-off if they haven't even seen the original. Was it poor ball control? A technical foul based on a bad call? Or maybe just a free kick from the sideline?
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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#108 ·
Kyle Cruz said:Who else could it possibly be? You? You bet it is!

It’s impossible to call something a rip-off if they haven't even seen the original. Was it poor ball control? A technical foul based on a bad call? Or maybe just a free kick from the sideline?

Yeah, I’m telling you, he definitely watched it 🤷 All directors study the originals. Honestly, nobody would even bother making a remake if they didn't have a clue what they were doing. That's just amateur hour talk...
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#109 ·
man, he didn't even watch the version from Sweden, and honestly, the only thing that's actually different is the ending 😂
everything else is just a straight-up CAST THEFT ☕
Kyle Cruz Kyle Cruz Newcomer
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#110 ·
And did it ever cross anyone's mind that he actually read the script? It’s just classic Fincher direction, which is exactly what that loudmouth 😂😂
was blathering about.
Daniel Perez6 Daniel Perez6 Active Member
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#111 ·
Kyle Cruz said:Who else could it possibly be? You? You bet it is!

It’s impossible to call something a rip-off if they haven't even seen the original. Was it poor ball control? A technical foul based on a bad call? Or maybe just a free kick from the sideline?

Let's not turn this into a joke when it isn't one.
Please.

It’s pretty obvious he watched the Swedish version. Nobody is claiming the Swedish version is better for everyone, but your arguments are just 🤦.
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
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#112 ·
Give me a break! briskhound2 grabs coffee with David every single day, so he definitely knows what's up 😁

Honestly, it doesn't even matter. Both versions are equally fantastic.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#113 ·
Kyle Cruz said:And did it ever cross anyone's mind that he actually read the script? It’s just classic Fincher direction, which is exactly what that loudmouth 😂😂
was blathering about.

Honestly, Fincher looks ridiculous with all this copying stuff going on,
he might as well call himself a parasite director at this point,
the guy's totally lost his way.

total parasite 😂
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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#114 ·
Kyle Cruz said:And did it ever cross anyone's mind that he actually read the script? It’s just classic Fincher direction, which is exactly what that loudmouth 😂😂
was blathering about.

It’s pretty much a rule that David Fincher doesn't touch remakes—this is actually his first foray into that territory, though he did go ahead and binge-watch Alien 1 & 2 right before jumping into this third installment... so there isn't really anything "classic" about his approach here. The only thing you can truly call typical is that unmistakable visual style of his. As far as the actual movie goes, it just doesn't capture that raw energy the originals had. Plus, they definitely toned things down to appease the US censors—you know, cutting out the rapes, the decapitations, all that gritty stuff—so it feels watered down. Either he put an insane amount of trust in the screenwriters (who probably had to walk him through every single beat of the original movies since he hadn't seen them), or he saw exactly what would trigger the American audience and decided to play it safe...

Jerry Martinez50 said:Give me a break! briskhound2 grabs coffee with David every single day, so he definitely knows what's up 😁

Honestly, it doesn't even matter. Both versions are equally fantastic.

And what you’re saying... 😁

Honestly, it doesn't even matter... both versions are equally good...

I mean, I’m still gonna go with the original every single time. Noomi is just Noomi... 😍
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
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#115 ·
I watched the original all by myself at home, but I caught the remake in the theater. Man, that first one absolutely blew me away during a late-night marathon! This second one? It felt way too rushed for my taste. You're totally right about the violence, though—it’s definitely dialed back. I bet the producers trimmed it down because the first cut was probably over three hours long.
Joseph White25 Joseph White25 Newcomer
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#116 ·
Can someone catch me up on how this movie ends? Or maybe just drop a link with a full plot summary—I totally passed out halfway through yesterday..😢
Daniel Perez6 Daniel Perez6 Active Member
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#117 ·
Joseph White25 said:Can someone catch me up on how this movie ends? Or maybe just drop a link with a full plot summary—I totally passed out halfway through yesterday..😢

I already sent you a message earlier this afternoon. Take a look. My postIt’s written in white. 😬
Lisa Alvarez4 Lisa Alvarez4 Member
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#118 ·
Patrick Martin said:Come on, man, give me some actual reasons why Fincher's movie or Lisbeth is supposedly better than the Swedish one. It’s basically just a rip-off, there's barely any difference between them.🤷

There are tons of book details that got changed in the Swedish versions too, and the books were shortened (especially the second and third movies, which felt pretty shallow).
For example, did you know Mikael Blomquist has a daughter? Her role was huge in helping him figure out what those numbers next to the names meant—it wasn't just Lisbeth randomly guessing it was a quote from The Bible. Honestly, I think Fincher just tweaked the ending a bit and kept everything else straight from the books.
Daniel Perez6 Daniel Perez6 Active Member
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#119 ·
Lisa Alvarez4 said:There are tons of book details that got changed in the Swedish versions too, and the books were shortened (especially the second and third movies, which felt pretty shallow).
For example, did you know Mikael Blomquist has a daughter? Her role was huge in helping him figure out what those numbers next to the names meant—it wasn't just Lisbeth randomly guessing it was a quote from The Bible. Honestly, I think Fincher just tweaked the ending a bit and kept everything else straight from the books.

Wait, how did he stay faithful to the books when they already made a movie based on the first one? 😬

You clearly haven't read the books. 😍
Lisa Alvarez4 Lisa Alvarez4 Member
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#120 ·
Daniel Perez6 said:Did you actually read the books? Like, did you finish all three parts, watch the movie, and then decide to drop this take? 😲

I figured you were joking. 🙂
Because, honestly, Noomi practically walked right off the pages of those books. Oh, absolutely! 🙂

It’s not even a question—all three books are sitting right on my desk.
Guess we weren't reading the same books then.
In the novels, Lisbeth is described as someone who almost certainly has Asperger's, which Rooney Mara played way better than Noomi Rapace (not that Noomi is to blame, really; it feels more like the director wanted a more Lisbeth-aggressive version instead of the slightly autistic-vulnerable vibe she has in the books and how Rooney nailed it).
Plus, physically, Lisbeth is supposed to look like a pale, skinny fifteen-year-old boy, whereas Noomi looks much stronger, darker, and obviously older.

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