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Stubborn canker sore? What should I do?

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Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#21 ·
Raymond Ortiz89 said:Look, I don’t really have a choice here; I’ve gotta go see a doctor because there's just no other way around it. But honestly, what is a general dentist even supposed to do for me when the real culprit is this relentless stomach acid?


Look, just grab some $67 cream and that'll handle the immediate pain. Then you can worry about finding the actual root cause or whatever... once those mouth sores only last a single day, things will feel way more manageable 😉
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active MemberOP
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#22 ·
Jose Miller3 said:Look, just grab some $67 cream and that'll handle the immediate pain. Then you can worry about finding the actual root cause or whatever... once those mouth sores only last a single day, things will feel way more manageable 😉

I’ve been hunting everywhere for this cream, but it’s nowhere to be found around here. I’m actually visiting from Canada, and man, it feels like that "world-class miracle" hasn't even made its way to our neck of the woods yet—even though, for me, it’s absolute perfection. If it could just stop my symptoms for even a single day, I’d be over the moon, but the problem is, the damn stuff is impossible to find.
Harold Lopez2 Harold Lopez2 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Pick up some Apiprodent mouth spray; you can find it at basically any CVS or Walgreens. I’ve been dealing with mouth ulcers for years and finally realized they pop up whenever my immune system takes a hit—usually during PMS, when I’m sick, or something along those lines.
Start using the spray the second you notice them starting to form. Give it a few sprays several times a day, and they should clear up in two or three days. If they’re already fully developed, the spray won't make them vanish instantly, but it’ll take the edge off so you can actually eat and function.
There. That's my firsthand experience. It works. 😉
wearyscout6 wearyscout6 Newcomer
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#24 ·
My throat feels full of "canker sores"... or at least that's what my doctor says, though honestly, none of the photos I see online actually look anything like what I've got going on 😢 mine are more like tiny blisters—kind of like little raised bumps filled with yellowish fluid. They range from microscopic to about 2mm. And they've been hanging around for maybe 15 days, if not longer. I didn't even really check my throat until last Friday when the massive pain in my throat, stomach, and esophagus just hit me all at once.
The doc put me on Lanzul for my stomach, scheduled a gastroscopy, and gave me some Royazol gel. I've been sucking on that gel for 15 days now, but these "sores" don't look like they're planning on leaving anytime soon 😢 I picked up some Lysobact because a friend suggested it, but after I tried sucking on those tablets, my stomach started burning so bad I had to quit using them.

Raymond Ortiz89, it might actually be smartest for you to start with your stomach and get some tests done first.
I've got my gastroscopy today, so hopefully that leads to actual treatment and finally ends this pain🙂
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active MemberOP
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#25 ·
wearyscout6 said:My throat feels full of "canker sores"... or at least that's what my doctor says, though honestly, none of the photos I see online actually look anything like what I've got going on 😢 mine are more like tiny blisters—kind of like little raised bumps filled with yellowish fluid. They range from microscopic to about 2mm. And they've been hanging around for maybe 15 days, if not longer. I didn't even really check my throat until last Friday when the massive pain in my throat, stomach, and esophagus just hit me all at once.
The doc put me on Lanzul for my stomach, scheduled a gastroscopy, and gave me some Royazol gel. I've been sucking on that gel for 15 days now, but these "sores" don't look like they're planning on leaving anytime soon 😢 I picked up some Lysobact because a friend suggested it, but after I tried sucking on those tablets, my stomach started burning so bad I had to quit using them.

Raymond Ortiz89, it might actually be smartest for you to start with your stomach and get some tests done first.
I've got my gastroscopy today, so hopefully that leads to actual treatment and finally ends this pain🙂


I really wish I could go see a specialist right now, but I can't because I'm heading out on a trip to Italy. From what I can tell, that isn't a canker sore; it sounds more like a fistula. I dealt with something similar back when I was younger, if that's indeed what it is, but usually, with those, you press on the area in your mouth and it bursts—though I've never experienced anything like that happening in my throat.
wearyscout6 wearyscout6 Newcomer
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#26 ·
Raymond Ortiz89 said:I really wish I could go see a specialist right now, but I can't because I'm heading out on a trip to Italy. From what I can tell, that isn't a canker sore; it sounds more like a fistula. I dealt with something similar back when I was younger, if that's indeed what it is, but usually, with those, you press on the area in your mouth and it bursts—though I've never experienced anything like that happening in my throat.


A fistula?? What even is that?
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active MemberOP
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#27 ·
wearyscout6 said:A fistula?? What even is that?

Look, a fistula is basically when you get this little swollen bump in your mouth that looks about the size of a green pea; eventually, it just pops under pressure and drains, and then the pain finally lets up. It usually crops up because of some nasty tooth decay or if you're being careless and touching your mouth with dirty hands.

Just so we're clear, a fistula and a canker sore are two completely different animals. :-)
wearyscout6 wearyscout6 Newcomer
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#28 ·
It isn't swollen up like a pea—doesn't look like a fistula either—and it still hasn't cleared up 😁
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active MemberOP
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#29 ·
wearyscout6 said:It isn't swollen up like a pea—doesn't look like a fistula either—and it still hasn't cleared up 😁

just go ahead and use up those meds while you can🙂
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active MemberOP
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#30 ·
Jose Miller3 said:Volon-H cream.

I'm not sure if you can just grab this at a CVS or Walgreens now—a few years back, I actually had to order it all the way from Austria. But seriously, there isn't a single mouth ulcer this stuff can't fix overnight... and trust me, I know what I'm talking about. My personal record was dealing with 14 ulcers at once, and one of them dragged on for 42 days straight 😉 .

I picked some up a few months ago 🙂

VOLON a-HAFTSABLE manufactured by Dermapharm Gmbh Wien

Look, there is nothing better than this cream. Seriously, the pain vanishes the second you apply it, and within a day or two, the sore is basically gone. I rarely even deal with them anymore, which is a massive change from how my life used to be.

Thanks a million, you guys seriously saved me from a lot of misery 🙂
Lisa Doyle Lisa Doyle Member
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#31 ·
Where are all the dentists hiding?
Let me try to weigh in here...
Ivanicapeca... unfortunately, you're off base thinking stomach acidity causes this. In theory? Sure. But claiming it's due to pH changes is pure guesswork since we don't actually know the mechanism behind how they form. Gastritis might be part of the underlying issue, but it’s definitely not a rule. A shift in pH or certain bacterial colonies might trigger Candida, but it doesn't cause these kinds of erosions. Besides, oral pH shifts don't trigger immune responses—they just cause inflammation. So, basically, gastritis leads to stomatitis, simplex, or catarrhalis, and in chronic cases, enamel abrasion.

Canker sores are split into two types: minor and major.
Minor ones—small aphthous ulcers—last about 2 to 3 weeks. They're smaller and show up in multiple spots around the mouth, like on the cheeks or tongue, but never on the palate. They recur, too. They stay within the mucosal layer, so they aren't raised; they're just small, shallow, white erosions. Someone mentioned throat issues, swelling, or yellow coloring... those aren't canker sores! These heal completely without leaving a scar. Interestingly, there can be prodromal symptoms—you might feel a burning sensation 24 to 48 hours before they actually appear. They pop up a few times a year.

Then there are Major ones... big canker sores. These last 4 to 6 weeks, are over 1cm in diameter, and always leave a scar. They actually recur more frequently than the minor ones. Someone mentioned a sore lasting 42 days... well, now you see that isn't anything unusual; that's just a major aphthous ulcer. They're characterized by larger size, longer duration, and significantly more pain. You'll find them on the palatal arches, the tongue, the inner cheeks, and the lips.

The cause? Genetics. If both parents deal with canker sores, there's a 90% chance the kids will too. The exact trigger is still a mystery, but we know it's an immunopathological process. Deficiencies in Vitamin B12 and folic acid have been found, and there's likely a correlation with digestive tract issues, immune deficiencies, menstruation, stress, and even food allergies.

Treatment involves Vitamin B12, iron, and folic acid. If the discomfort is severe, topical corticosteroids might be used—in extreme cases, systemic ones, though that's rare.
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#32 ·
Raymond Ortiz89 said:I picked some up a few months ago 🙂

VOLON a-HAFTSABLE manufactured by Dermapharm Gmbh Wien

Look, there is nothing better than this cream. Seriously, the pain vanishes the second you apply it, and within a day or two, the sore is basically gone. I rarely even deal with them anymore, which is a massive change from how my life used to be.

Thanks a million, you guys seriously saved me from a lot of misery 🙂

Right?

See, I told you... 🙂

Anyway, do me a favor and tell me where you grabbed it? Is it something I can just pick up at a regular CVS or Walgreens? My old cream expired, and even though I'm getting these mouth sores WAY less often lately, I'd still love to have something on hand just in case... 🙂
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active MemberOP
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#33 ·
Jose Miller3 said:Right?

See, I told you... 🙂

Anyway, do me a favor and tell me where you grabbed it? Is it something I can just pick up at a regular CVS or Walgreens? My old cream expired, and even though I'm getting these mouth sores WAY less often lately, I'd still love to have something on hand just in case... 🙂

Look, I'm based in the US, and finding this specific cream here is basically impossible—even the pharmacists around here act like they've never heard of it. Luckily, I have a relative who's a doctor over in Austria, and he was kind enough to mail it to me. He didn't even want me to pay him for it, but I'm thinking about asking him how much it costs so I can just have him send two tubes; that way, I can ship one over to you 🙂.

It won't happen in the next few days, but I'll give you a shout when I know more 🙂

Merry Christmas and all the best

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