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Why do American films look so different from the rest?

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velvetdrifter86 velvetdrifter86 Member
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#21 ·
bluebison8 said:I view it much like professional soccer. Anyone with genuine talent heads straight for that arena, and by the time they arrive, they’ve mastered the craft down to the finest detail. It’s exactly like the big leagues—anyone worth their salt eventually makes the jump.
Just like in soccer, an exceptional talent is born every once in a while—someone like Luke—but they are nothing compared to the sheer volume of talent found abroad. It’s the same story in cinema. A handful of great actors and directors might emerge from the United States, but they don't even begin to represent the massive pool of elite talent actually living there.

redowl90 said:It comes down to the talent involved.
The truth is, American films are just better than anything else out there.

Total stereotype, honestly. Just a myth. I’d argue it’s actually the other way around. A ton of European actors who moved to the US ended up doing much better, more meaningful roles back in Europe, while in America they just end up stuck in soap operas. Look at Rade Šerbedžija—there are plenty of examples, but I can't be bothered to list them all right now.
wiredranger30 wiredranger30 Member
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#22 ·
Kate Torres said:I’m not going to sit here and claim that the visual style in American films is inherently better than what you see in Europe. Honestly, certain European and Asian films have much more stunning cinematography than mainstream American movies, where the camera work feels uninspired and looks exactly the same in every single production. It's nothing special. ☕

You really are something else, 😂—honestly, I’d go as far as calling you the court jester of this subforum. 🙏 😉
Jessica Nguyen85 Jessica Nguyen85 Active Member
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#23 ·
Nicole James said:I can't help but feel that a big chunk of that sense of unreality comes down to the casting of the actors and extras. If you take a look at most American films, everyone seems almost unnaturally attractive. It’s glaringly obvious that even an extra just walking through a scene has been meticulously selected—they aren't exactly the kind of people you'd run into while grabbing groceries at a local Kroger. Everyone is perfectly dressed, clean, groomed, and polished—it all feels almost artificial, if you know what I mean. On the flip side, when you watch European films, you're much more likely to encounter a guy with a mustache and a slightly awkward build who looks like he actually lives in the neighborhood.

That’s because when Americans make movies, they’re thinking about the people sitting in the theater. With those "European" productions, the people they intended to watch it have usually already seen it... mostly because they were on the set. 😬

Personally, I think it boils down to two main things. First off, there's the whole attitude inherent in American filmmaking. It's usually the product of a massive team effort—specialists working together to nail specific details. In European cinema, there’s still this lingering tradition where the director is treated as the sole genius, even though the medium itself really demands a collective push from top-tier artists across different fields.

Second, American film is market-driven (much like society as a whole), so what matters is how the audience perceives it, how they react, and how technical execution meets their expectations. I’m not saying European filmmakers don't care about the viewer; it’s just that they often approach it from the wrong angle. Their mindset is more like: if you don't get it, that’s your problem, not ours.
Daniel Moore35 Daniel Moore35 Member
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#24 ·
Taxi 3 serves as a perfect case study for how European films can successfully mimic the polished feel of an American production 🤷

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_3
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#25 ·
Wait, Jessica Nguyen85... honestly, how many American films have you actually watched over the last five years that didn't just leave you with this weirdly hollow sensation—you know, like that superficial, empty feeling where it's fun for a second but ultimately feels pretty pointless?
vividorca5 vividorca5 Member
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#26 ·
Maybe try actually watching some movies first... most of those big "American" blockbusters—if you can even call them that, considering who's actually footing the bill—were shot by masters from Europe, like the English, Poles, Czechs, Italians, or Germans... people who have been grinding for Americans for decades now.

Just take a look at the crews behind Ridley Scott or Steven Spielberg... they're basically just a bunch of Jenkins... I even remember hearing how some of the American guys on the set of Blade Runner quietly revolted because Scott was being such a jerk about needing his English crew to get anything done...
Thomas Patel Thomas Patel Member
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#27 ·
redowl90 said:It comes down to the talent involved.
The truth is, American films are just better than anything else out there.

I bet you're eating at McDonald's right now, aren't you? 😂
When you look at how many American films are pumped out versus how many are actually worth watching, they're easily the worst movies on the planet.
Thomas Patel Thomas Patel Member
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#28 ·
Jessica Nguyen85 said:That’s because when Americans make movies, they’re thinking about the people sitting in the theater. With those "European" productions, the people they intended to watch it have usually already seen it... mostly because they were on the set. 😬

Personally, I think it boils down to two main things. First off, there's the whole attitude inherent in American filmmaking. It's usually the product of a massive team effort—specialists working together to nail specific details. In European cinema, there’s still this lingering tradition where the director is treated as the sole genius, even though the medium itself really demands a collective push from top-tier artists across different fields.

Second, American film is market-driven (much like society as a whole), so what matters is how the audience perceives it, how they react, and how technical execution meets their expectations. I’m not saying European filmmakers don't care about the viewer; it’s just that they often approach it from the wrong angle. Their mindset is more like: if you don't get it, that’s your problem, not ours.

You hit the nail on the head...
American movies are simple and easy for everyone to wrap their heads around.
Meanwhile, European film is more intellectual and leaves a deeper impression—sometimes you actually need to watch the same thing a few times just to fully grasp everything it's trying to say.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#29 ·
Given how many they churn out versus how many actually hold up, I’d say American films are the worst movies on the planet.

American films—just mindless fluff designed for everyone to follow easily.

😂

European films tend to be more intelligent and leave a much deeper impression. Sometimes you really have to watch a movie a few times just to fully grasp what happened.

😂..So that's the verdict? Every single American film is stupid, and not one European film is bad?
vividorca5 vividorca5 Member
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#30 ·
Back at it again with the Artsija vs. Kokičar divide lol
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#31 ·
vividorca5 said:Back at it again with the Artsija vs. Kokičar divide lol

It’s just a fact of life. For every masterpiece drama, you're going to run into four or five mediocre ones. That applies to action movies too, whether you're here in the US or anywhere else in the world.
Thomas Patel Thomas Patel Member
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#32 ·
David Price5 said:
Given how many they churn out versus how many actually hold up, I’d say American films are the worst movies on the planet.

American films—just mindless fluff designed for everyone to follow easily.

😂

European films tend to be more intelligent and leave a much deeper impression. Sometimes you really have to watch a movie a few times just to fully grasp what happened.

😂..So that's the verdict? Every single American film is stupid, and not one European film is bad?

Come on, McDonald's,🤣
here comes another textbook example of someone just being mediocre—drawing conclusions that fit their own bias even though they aren't actually written anywhere.

Some people really need a map to find the point...

It’s not that *all* American movies are dumb, it's just that a massive majority of them are.
And yeah, there are plenty of stupid European films out there too.

Alright, go ahead, hit me with another comment... or maybe you could try sharing an actual opinion for once?!
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
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#33 ·
Thomas Patel said:Come on, McDonald's,🤣
here comes another textbook example of someone just being mediocre—drawing conclusions that fit their own bias even though they aren't actually written anywhere.

Some people really need a map to find the point...

It’s not that *all* American movies are dumb, it's just that a massive majority of them are.
And yeah, there are plenty of stupid European films out there too.

Alright, go ahead, hit me with another comment... or maybe you could try sharing an actual opinion for once?!

Thomas Patel, first off—watch your tone if you want to be taken seriously. Second, regarding those "conclusions" that don't exist: your exact sentence was this:
Thomas Patel said:You hit the nail on the head...
American movies are simple and easy for everyone to wrap their heads around.
Meanwhile, European film is more intellectual and leaves a deeper impression—sometimes you actually need to watch the same thing a few times just to fully grasp everything it's trying to say.

And, while I'm at it—it's spelled average.
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 Regular
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#34 ·
Thomas Patel said:Come on, McDonald's,🤣
here comes another textbook example of someone just being mediocre—drawing conclusions that fit their own bias even though they aren't actually written anywhere.

Some people really need a map to find the point...

It’s not that *all* American movies are dumb, it's just that a massive majority of them are.
And yeah, there are plenty of stupid European films out there too.

Alright, go ahead, hit me with another comment... or maybe you could try sharing an actual opinion for once?!

From where I'm sitting, you aren't drawing any special conclusions... you're just repeating what's written right there in black and white... including stuff you said a few posts ago...

Do you honestly think American films consist of nothing but those 20 blockbusters that hit theaters every year? LOL
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#35 ·
Thomas Patel said:Come on, McDonald's,🤣
here comes another textbook example of someone just being mediocre—drawing conclusions that fit their own bias even though they aren't actually written anywhere.

Some people really need a map to find the point...

It’s not that *all* American movies are dumb, it's just that a massive majority of them are.
And yeah, there are plenty of stupid European films out there too.

Alright, go ahead, hit me with another comment... or maybe you could try sharing an actual opinion for once?!

I consider myself an average viewer. My tastes vary across all kinds of international filmographies.

The usual split between the Artsija crowd and the Kokičar group, lol.

Honestly, I think even this categorization is wrong. There is a perfectly good middle ground—people who genuinely enjoy every genre, from heavy European dramas to total American trash...
Thomas Patel Thomas Patel Member
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#36 ·
Anthony Smith3 said:From where I'm sitting, you aren't drawing any special conclusions... you're just repeating what's written right there in black and white... including stuff you said a few posts ago...

Do you honestly think American films consist of nothing but those 20 blockbusters that hit theaters every year? LOL

Yeah, I did say that all American movies are mindless and that every single European film is brilliant—and then, being my usual self, I went ahead and doubled down on that in the very next post. 🙄

The only thing I never actually claimed was that American movies consist solely of those 20 blockbusters released annually. ☕

To keep things simple—and maybe save us all some time—my general take is just that European films tend to be better than American ones.
I know you guys feel the exact opposite, though. Fair enough! ☕
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#37 ·
Thomas Patel said:Yeah, I did say that all American movies are mindless and that every single European film is brilliant—and then, being my usual self, I went ahead and doubled down on that in the very next post. 🙄

The only thing I never actually claimed was that American movies consist solely of those 20 blockbusters released annually. ☕

To keep things simple—and maybe save us all some time—my general take is just that European films tend to be better than American ones.
I know you guys feel the exact opposite, though. Fair enough! ☕

😂 Where on earth did we ever claim that American films were better than European ones?
Thomas Patel Thomas Patel Member
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#38 ·
David Price5 said:😂 Where on earth did we ever claim that American films were better than European ones?

...well, in the exact same place I once argued that all American movies are mindless while European cinema is actually smart... 🤣
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#39 ·
Thomas Patel said:...well, in the exact same place I once argued that all American movies are mindless while European cinema is actually smart... 🤣


Go ahead and find my post where I actually said American film is superior to European film..
Thomas Patel Thomas Patel Member
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#40 ·
David Price5 said:Go ahead and find my post where I actually said American film is superior to European film..

..honestly, I'm not even going to waste my keystrokes on this nonsense anymore--you're still trying to nitpick a slip of the tongue when I literally wrote out several posts right below you! Plus, you're circling back to that very first post—the one where you really should have realized I wasn't saying *every single* American film is garbage. "Given how many they churn out versus how many are actually any good, American films are the worst movies on the planet." It's pretty clearly about the ratio, you know? See what I mean?

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