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Living with Interstitial Cystitis (IC)

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Eric Miller9 Eric Miller9 Newcomer
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#61 ·
Sorry... all my test results came back totally normal. I can't find anything that explains these symptoms, so I'm just feeling pretty confused. Honestly, I feel better when I'm on my period... then I can just tell myself the pain is just because of that. I end up hitting the bathroom more often at night... especially if I start overthinking all of this.
Brandon Davis11 Brandon Davis11 Newcomer
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#62 ·
Hey there, has anyone actually tried using glucosamine sulfate to deal with this? I'm dealing with the same type of cystitis, so I was thinking about giving it a shot. What are your main triggers? For me, coffee is a huge one. Oh, and the cold weather really messes with things too. Please share what you know—I'm trying to educate myself a bit here.
redotter95 redotter95 Newcomer
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#63 ·
I haven't personally messed around with glucosamine sulfate, but from what I've read, most people seem to have pretty good luck with it. Also—it looks like quercetin can be a big help when it comes to bladder issues and urination.
You should definitely stay away from coffee, citrus fruits, and don't even get me started on alcohol. You can always find a list online of foods to dodge if you're dealing with IC.
James Campbell90 James Campbell90 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2017
#64 ·
redotter95 said:Can any of you who've been diagnosed with IC let me know which doctor actually gave you the diagnosis? Like, who's the go-to specialist for this stuff here in the States? Feel free to just shoot me a DM if that's easier.

Honey, you aren't alone in this world. I might be the oldest one here; I've had an IC diagnosis since 1992. I was 35 then, and now I'm 59. Back then, my urologist, Dr. Gilja at Holy Spirit, told me after my biopsy 🙏that you'll live with it, but it won't kill you—just drink some teas and Sinersul. I only had the biopsy because they were stumped after all my urine tests, bladder ultrasounds, and urodynamics came back normal. A couple of years ago, I went back to see Dr. Gilja—who is a total scientist in this field—because my symptoms, pain, and frequency were getting worse. He basically told me there’s no cure, and whoever invents one will win a Nobel Prize. All these years, I've mostly been on my own. Since 1999, I've been seeing a homeopath who gives me injections through the abdomen, just above the pubic bone. It’s helped my life a lot, honestly; it even allowed me to retire early. I kept looking for answers, though, following what they do in the US, and found Cista Q complex. I've been taking it since 2012, and it really helped me stay in a better place for longer stretches.
I order my stuff from the US, Canada, and Mexico City. The latest thing I read about is sodium pentosan polysulfate (Elmiron), which is what they use to treat IC patients in America. I actually managed to get some via a private prescription, but I got the 25 mg dose instead of the 100 mg one. I haven't started it yet. Right now, I'm sticking to my homeopath's injections and Cista Q. I never used to have food allergies, but over the last two years, I've noticed tomatoes, onions, and coffee really irritate my bladder and make it hard to hold it. It’s pretty quiet at night, though. For the pain, I use ibuprofen, and I've been on an antihistamine since yesterday, along with my homeopath visits and Cista Q. I picked up the pentosan through a pharmacy online. I'm saving that for when I finish my current round with the homeopath. Unfortunately, our medical system doesn't really tackle this, and don't even get me started on general practitioners—they barely even know what it is. I just deal with the ups and downs. I had a bladder CT a couple of years ago and everything looked perfect. No stones or anything else. I won't ramble too much, but if any other patients need help with something I might know, feel free to call me at 555-0198 or just reach out here. Bye!
casualbadger22 casualbadger22 Member
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#65 ·
After digging through my symptoms, I’ve pretty much pinned down what's causing this mess. In my experience, hormones are likely the main trigger; taking birth control like Yasmin used to provide massive relief for my bladder issues.
Then there's the food situation and all the chemical junk processed into everything we eat. Honestly, I think it's a mix of diet and genetics. For me, lemons, oranges, caffeine, turmeric, pepper, and alcohol are all major offenders.
I actually have allergic reactions to some of these foods—I've even ended up in the ER because of them. My bladder is basically just one more part of my body reacting to an allergic response.
The only thing that really takes the edge off is baking soda. As soon as things start acting up, I start drinking a solution made with that aluminum-free baking soda from Whole Foods. Two specific things helped me out: Urifar with demanozom and Cystinol. With Cystinol, I usually just take two tablets twice a day for two days. Just a heads-up though: don't let the pharmacy talk you into Urosal Lady; it has extra ingredients like goldenrod that absolutely wreck me. Don't get fooled when they try to push Urosal on you or claim Cystinol isn't being made anymore.

Looking at international sites, baking soda is highly recommended to neutralize the acidity caused by food. It's all about cutting out the triggers, and since most teas have caffeine, you have to be careful. Chamomile seems safe, but green tea could definitely be a trigger.
And of course, if you try explaining any of this to our local "experts," they'll treat you like you're losing your mind or acting like a witch. Those people honestly haven't a clue how life works.

Luckily, I'm on estradiol pills and estradiol cream now, which has been a total lifesaver.

James Campbell90 good for you if you managed to find relief despite how clueless our doctors are. But hey, people will do whatever it takes to feel better.
James Campbell90 James Campbell90 Newcomer
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#66 ·
redotter95 said:I haven't personally messed around with glucosamine sulfate, but from what I've read, most people seem to have pretty good luck with it. Also—it looks like quercetin can be a big help when it comes to bladder issues and urination.
You should definitely stay away from coffee, citrus fruits, and don't even get me started on alcohol. You can always find a list online of foods to dodge if you're dealing with IC.

The main stuff in Cyst Q complex is just plant-based goodness like quercetin and papaya.
silentgull9 silentgull9 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2019
#67 ·
So, here’s the deal... I’ve been dealing with this constant need to pee way more often than usual for quite some time now. Honestly, looking back as far as I can remember, it’s always been like this—frequent trips to the bathroom and things feeling kind of difficult, you know, like the flow wasn't exactly steady or was kind of stuttering... I never really thought much of it or felt like it was a huge deal, especially since I was always chugging tons of fluids, sometimes hitting 4 or 5 liters a day, so I just figured that was pretty much my normal state of being...

So, I was actually diagnosed with diabetes about seven years ago now, but honestly, I've pretty much had it totally under control ever since...

I didn't really deal with any major issues until about a year and a half ago when this sudden, intense urge to pee started hitting me out of nowhere... Like, I'll go, but then almost immediately after, I feel like I have to rush back to the bathroom again. And of course, it’s always accompanied by those middle-of-the-night trips that just completely wreck my sleep... I went in for an ultrasound, had my blood drawn, and did a full bacterial culture on my urine, and honestly, everything came back totally fine. No bacteria in sight, CRP was zero, blood sugar and ketones were all normal, and my PSA was sitting at 0.4... Even the ultrasound showed everything looking perfectly regular. My doctor keeps telling me that everything looks okay, so she just prescribes some antibiotics, and then within a few days, things seem to settle down quite a bit, leaving me without any real problems for another year or so...

Last December, everything started acting up again and just lasted for a few days, so I went ahead and did all the tests once more, including a sperm culture to check for bacteria, and honestly, everything came back totally fine... I actually saw a urologist for the first time this time around to really go over the results and get some actual answers, but this time I’m skipping the specialist visit because my doctor says there's really no point since the labs look perfectly normal... It's just that every so often, things flare up for a couple of days and then it feels okay for maybe half a year before it happens again...

But then, out of nowhere this June, everything started acting up again... So now I'm back on a round of antibiotics, but it feels different this time because they aren't actually clearing things out after a few days like they used to; instead, it’s like this lingering, underlying issue that just hangs around, sometimes hitting me hard and sometimes staying subtle, but it just won't quit. I've gone through the whole gauntlet all over again—blood work, ultrasounds, semen analysis, urine tests—and honestly, everything comes back totally fine, maybe even better than before... yet the problems just won't let up. There have been these nights where sleep is basically impossible, with these insomnia bouts hitting me roughly every ten days or so. I went to see my urologist for a full workup, including a prostate exam and a bladder ultrasound once I was completely drained, and he ended up handing me a diagnosis of cystitis. I can't help but wonder how that makes sense when there's no bacteria present... and I don't really buy the viral theory either, since this keeps recurring in such predictable cycles and doesn't always last for that full six-week stretch. I know there has to be an explanation for something, but you know how it is, a guy just starts digging and researching everything he can find...
I know it’s totally bad for your mental health to go down a Google rabbit hole trying to diagnose yourself, but I honestly just can't help myself... I couldn't find anything that actually felt right or even remotely described what I've been going through until I finally stumbled upon this...
My doctor put me on Omnic, and I have to admit, it’s actually helping me out a little bit... It makes urinating a lot easier, and that constant sense of urgency isn't quite as intense anymore, especially at night if I just take a second to mentally prepare myself... 🙂 I mean, honestly, I still can't quite figure out how much sleep I'm actually getting...
So, I finally went to see the neurologist for a full checkup, and honestly, everything came back totally fine... but there's this annoying little snag where they can't actually run an MRI on my brain or spine because of some metal fragments from an old injury I sustained a while back, which is just such a bummer since it leaves things a bit up in the air... they're pointing me toward some other tests now, though they did mention that if those results come back clear, then there's a 99% chance that what I'm dealing with isn't even neurological in nature... so we'll just have to wait and see how it all unfolds...
Of course they tried to tell me that the whole thing might just be psychological, which, if I'm being totally honest, is something I have my doubts about...
So, my urologist finally called the shots and scheduled me for a cystoscopy along with a bunch of other urological tests, which should be happening in about a month or two once I finish up this current round of pills...

I honestly feel like once I wrap up these tests and head over to see my endocrinologist, I can finally breathe easy and stop worrying about all the testing... I know I’m definitely not through with everything just yet and it might be a little early to call it, but honestly, all signs are pointing toward these results coming back totally fine...

So, I finally ended up Googling this whole thing and honestly, I totally freaked out for a second... because from what I can see, a huge chunk of you guys went through the exact same diagnostic nightmare that I'm stuck in right now...

I'm honestly torn on whether I should even bring up the possibility of this condition to my doctor, because you know how some doctors here can be when you suggest something they aren't immediately familiar with... if they don't have an instant answer, they just kind of shut you down or act like you're making it all up in your head...

So, I'm a 39-year-old guy...

So, yeah, just to wrap things up... I’m not really dealing with any pelvic pain, nor is my bladder acting too crazy right now. I wouldn't say that heavy pressure in the bladder is super intense either, I mean, it’s just the usual feeling when you really need to go... My bladder doesn't actually hurt while it's filling up. I do get some aches in my lower back, but honestly, that’s nothing new for me and it’s probably just from my terrible posture and stuff like that... The main thing is that I get some pain in my bladder and down in my testicles—the scrotum area—and that happens every now and then. Sometimes it’s just a dull ache, but other times it gets pretty sharp. Usually, that pain kicks in after I've been peeing a lot, but it tends to fade away pretty quickly, so I'm thinking it might just be from all that straining whenever I try to go...

So, my big question is, if I’m not actually feeling those pains—like, they only really show up during those super extreme moments—what are the actual odds that I've got this syndrome? Because honestly, reading about it has been pretty terrifying, and ever since I first stumbled upon all this info, I haven't had a moment's peace... it just keeps gnawing at me deep down inside. Maybe one of you guys has an idea of what else it could be, because let's be real, the symptoms we're all dealing with are absolutely brutal...

Sorry for the massive wall of text here, and thanks so much in advance for any help you can give 🙂.
neonwolf98 neonwolf98 Newcomer
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#68 ·
Honestly, I am so thrilled by this recent turn of events that I just had to reach out and share it with all of you..

While I haven’t received an official diagnosis of interstitial cystitis, based on everything I’ve been experiencing, it’s painfully obvious that’s exactly what I'm dealing with. For the longest time, my doctors treated me just like everyone else in this community—cycling through one antibiotic after another without any significant relief or meaningful progress. 😵
I happened to stumble upon a recommendation for Cat's Claw tincture while reading a fascinating piece in a medical media publication, so I decided to order some and give it a shot. To my absolute astonishment, within just three days, every single symptom had vanished. I find myself in genuine awe of how the body works and the power of nature; meanwhile, we seem to be constantly poisoning ourselves with synthetic chemistry that offers little more than destruction and zero results. It always seems to be the same old story from the specialists—that it’s "incurable" or some other hopeless nonsense.. 🤦

So, I’m posting this in the sincere hope that I might be able to offer some relief to anyone else struggling with these relentless bladder issues.. 🙂

The product in question is:

https://vimergy.com/products/cats-cl...18ec51c0&_ss=r
neonwolf98 neonwolf98 Newcomer
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#69 ·
"A couple of years back, I sat down with Dr. Gilja—a legitimate scientist in this field—because my symptoms were spiraling out of control, dealing with constant pain and that relentless urge to go. His verdict? There is no cure. He actually told me that whoever manages to invent one would probably walk away with a Nobel Prize."

It’s quite something, isn't it? All these high-level experts with their prestigious university degrees, yet in the end, we are all just left to our own devices, forced to dig through research, read endlessly, and attempt to treat ourselves.

Now, do I really need a Nobel Prize? Because apparently, I managed to resolve a thirty-five-year struggle in just three days using nothing but some Cat's Claw tincture.
Is it perfectly normal to you that these professionals remain clueless, maintaining the stance that most of our issues are simply incurable or unsolvable? 🤦😵
They spend their entire lives buried in academia, only to reach a point where they can't offer any actual help. 👎

Since anyone is actually interested in how I handled things over those three days:
https://vimergy.com/products/cats-cl...18ec51c0&_ss=r
neonwolf98 neonwolf98 Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#70 ·
Steven Sanchez10 said:Has anyone here been officially diagnosed with interstitial cystitis—that chronic, non-bacterial version of cystitis that seems completely immune to standard treatments? I’ve been wrestling with this for ten years now, cycling through specialists and various alternative practitioners, pouring a small fortune into it with absolutely zero results... HELP

For my part, this was what finally offered some relief,
and honestly, I feel almost tempted to shout it from the rooftops just so everyone can stop struggling blindly.

https://vimergy.com/products/cats-cl...18ec51c0&_ss=r

Do yourselves a favor and consult some reputable medical media, people; take your health into your own hands.🙂
frozenjackal12 frozenjackal12 Newcomer
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#71 ·
Amy Moore6 said:I rarely come back to this thread. I was gone for a few years, just completely off the grid, and today I decided to open it up again just to see if anything had changed, only to stumble right onto your post. I actually started this whole discussion back in 2007 under the name Steven Sanchez10. So much time has passed since then, and honestly, I stopped posting about it on the forums because I’d just had enough—I was totally fed up with everything. I registered again today with a new handle because I couldn't remember my old password, but I just couldn't let you go without responding, especially since you're pregnant and I can only imagine how hard this must be for you. Over the last few years, I have been through the wringer with doctors and alternative medicine people. I’ve swallowed mountains of antibiotics and all sorts of different medications. It felt like every single doctor had their own little theory and prescribed something completely different from the last one. The one thing they almost all agreed on? They’d throw antibiotics at me, even though my urine cultures were sterile and my swabs came back "clean." Then they’d just pivot to some other class of drugs. It really just depended on which urologist you saw. For example, a urologist who mostly sees women dealing with incontinence or neurogenic bladder would prescribe the exact same stuff those women get. Or a surgeon might push invasive methods, like bladder hydrodistension. Some doctors actually had a better approach and tried targeting things specifically—like using tricyclic antidepressants or antihistamines—assuming it was definitely IC. Speaking of antihistamines, Atarax was one of them, which also acts as an anxiolytic... and there were so many others, even Omnic. None of it really made a dent. The absolute worst part for me was the sleep. I’d be getting up as many as eleven times a night. It absolutely trashed my long-term relationship. I don't even need to tell you how much the lack of sleep, the daytime exhaustion, the damaged intimacy with my partner, and the general mental fog and limitations this illness brings can destroy a life. It bleeds into every single corner of your existence, not just your sex life. I kept putting off having kids, waiting for some kind of therapy that would minimize the symptoms enough so I could live a somewhat normal life, try to conceive, and actually carry a pregnancy to term. Years went by, bouncing from doctor to doctor, and now... well, now it feels too late to start a family or have that healthy, stable relationship I wanted. That’s just my experience, though. Not everyone ends up in the same spot, and everyone’s body reacts differently. Maybe the treatments they gave me would actually work for someone else, or maybe someone else would find relief much earlier and manage to fix their bladder or at least ease the symptoms. If I could turn back the clock, the one thing I’d change is leaving the US to seek a diagnosis elsewhere—somewhere where they follow actual clinical guidelines from the jump. I wish I’d seen a urologist who specialized in interstitial cystitis and actually had a massive caseload of patients like me. I really hate that my diagnostic process started with such invasive stuff like hydrodistension (which is both a diagnostic and a treatment method, and by the way, it did nothing for me) and biopsies. I wish they had just done a potassium test instead. That’s way less invasive and actually useful if you're planning specific treatments, since it can show if you're even a candidate for GAG therapy. Also, regarding the treatment choices—some doctors operated under the theory that bacteria had burrowed deep into the bladder lining, so they’d inject antibiotics directly into my bladder every single day for weeks. It didn't help. If anything, it just irritated my urethra even more because of the constant catheter use. Honestly, if I'm already being subjected to bladder instillations, wouldn't it be smarter to try a GAG solution (glucosamine glycan) to coat the lining and protect it from all those irritating substances in the urine)? It would have made so much more sense than the endless rounds of bladder antibiotics I took. There's really no point in doing antibiotic instillations if they didn't work orally; the bladder tissue isn't like the prostate, which is encased in a capsule and poorly vascularized, making it hard for antibiotics to penetrate. So, it was just a chaotic mix of everything, with no real order, no logic, no guidelines... just too many doctors all doing the same useless things, going from one to the next in a giant circle. I know I’m not making this any easier for you, and I’m not offering a magic solution, but I truly worry about whether you'll get the help you need here in the States. If your cultures and swabs are clean, and your kidneys and gynecological health are fine, it’s highly likely this is a bladder issue (IC?). You know that even healthy women face increased bladder pressure during pregnancy, leading to frequent urination and waking up more often at night. But with IC, those symptoms can become absolutely brutal. That was my biggest fear, which is why I waited to plan a pregnancy until I thought I was cured... but I never reached that point. Now I just regret not moving away, trying to change my circumstances, and just biting the bullet to try and start a family during my "normal" years, regardless of what state I was in. Now it feels too late. Just try to stay brave. I don't know how far along you are or how old you are, but I'm assuming you're young enough to pull through this.🙂 Maybe you could look into some kind of calming tablet that’s actually safe to take while you're pregnant? Just so you can finally get some decent sleep at night. Since you're expecting, getting a full diagnostic workup for IC gets pretty complicated, and honestly, figuring out a treatment plan is just as tricky. You might want to check out some American forums to see what meds or relaxation techniques—like acupuncture—other pregnant women with IC are using. (By the way, I think there's a specialized pain management center over in Seattle that uses acupuncture, which might help with the pain). The most important thing right now is that you and your baby make it through this safely; things will be easier once the baby is here. Here’s a link to an official IC site, maybe you'll find something helpful there: http://www.ic-network.com/

I’m rooting for you! I truly believe you'll find the strength and courage to push through to the end. 🙂

Amy Moore6, if you're still checking this thread, give me a shout. A lot of time has passed, and I'd love to catch up via email. I tried reaching out through my old account a bunch of times but couldn't get through div>
boldwalker3 boldwalker3 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2022
#72 ·
frozenjackal12 said:Amy Moore6, if you're still checking this thread, give me a shout. A lot of time has passed, and I'd love to catch up via email. I tried reaching out through my old account a bunch of times but couldn't get through div>

Hello frozenjackal12, I have been reading through your posts. I am interested in learning how your condition stands currently—have you seen an improvement? If you have, I would be very interested to know what methods led to that progress.
Regards.

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