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What's it actually like being a soccer goalkeeper?

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brighthawk20 brighthawk20 MemberOP
32 messages
joined Sep 2006
#1 ·
I’m writing this because I’m honestly just exhausted by the sheer amount of illogical nonsense and depressing talking points being thrown around regarding Robinson.
What we saw yesterday wasn't just a bad break; it was almost a textbook case—maybe even an extreme masterclass—of just how thankless the goalkeeper position can be. In my book, it’s easily the worst spot on the field in any team sport... and I mean by a massive margin.
The guy plays a masterclass for ninety minutes, keeping everything under control, and then two defenders fail to track the smallest player on the pitch, he gets a header to the face, and suddenly the ball is in the net.
As for that second goal, I don't even need to go there... it felt like a comet hit him square in the head and knocked him down, only for the ball to trickle in anyway, just so he could be branded the villain regardless.

Looking at the American media coverage, specifically those sensationalist tabloids, I get the feeling we were all watching a completely different game than the one being broadcast via satellite.
Robinson ended up with the lowest rating on the pitch by a wide margin, looking at everyone from both sides who played yesterday.
Every single headline features a shot of him looking like a total outcast, either burying his face in his gloves or staring off into space with a look of pure misery...

And the man isn't even at fault...

That’s just the life of a goalkeeper.
Meanwhile, a striker can get lucky enough to have a ball bounce off their head and into the net, and they’re instantly walking through the pearly gates of eternal glory...

It’s garbage...😳
Gregory Walker15 Gregory Walker15 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#2 ·
It is difficult. You can be a hero, or you can be a tragic figure... though the line between those two roles for a goalkeeper, as we saw during this match, is incredibly thin. 🙂

For a keeper, those first few saves are vital for morale. Once you concede a silly goal, confidence tends to plummet. 😢

And no, I don't believe Robinson is particularly to blame for that goal; it was just a routine clearance that went bizarrely wrong. 😁

The truth is, people watching from the sidelines don't really understand what it's like for goalkeepers—I learned that the hard way. It seems more important to make a spectacular save than to simply use perfect positioning and technique. Dida is a prime example; he positions himself so flawlessly that it looks like strikers are always aiming right at him, which makes people underestimate his skill.

I can't manage to string three honest sentences together; I'm exhausted. 🤣
Joseph Lee9 Joseph Lee9 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2006
#3 ·
Robinson is responsible for both goals. He was out of position for the first one, and he carries 50% of the blame for the second—the ball shouldn't be played back to the keeper inside the box, especially when Robinson is clearly trying to clear it with everything he's got.
Gregory Walker15 Gregory Walker15 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#4 ·
It's true, he messed up a bit on the first one, but honestly, what keeper would ever expect little Edward to head home a cross like that right next to Terry? 😬
brighthawk20 brighthawk20 MemberOP
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#5 ·
Joseph Lee9 said:Robinson is to blame for both goals. For the first one, his positioning was just off, and for the second, he carries about 50% of the blame. The ball shouldn't be coming back to the keeper inside the box like that, and Robinson went for it with full force—he was clearly trying to clear it like a typical Englishman would.

That happens in 99.99% of scenarios. Don't be ridiculous.
The second goal is definitely on him—to an extent. If I were the manager, I’d be cursing my defenders; when a guy that small, without any jump or physical presence, gets hit by a ball right in the middle of the pitch, you expect better.
amberskipper452 amberskipper452 Newcomer
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#6 ·
..you know what they say: a mother gives birth to two sons... one turns out normal, and the other becomes a goalkeeper..
Robin Rodriguez5 Robin Rodriguez5 Active Member
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#7 ·
What I find most ridiculous is how Robinson actually put on an incredible show after that second goal went in. That strike from Modrić right at the death? Honestly, any top-tier keeper in the US would have struggled to pull that one out of the net.
Hannah Smith3 Hannah Smith3 Newcomer
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#8 ·
In my estimation, Robinson isn't to blame one bit. It’s practically a standard occurrence in the league—goalkeepers launch those long balls only to have players redirect them right back at them. Honestly, most of the heat is coming from journalists who just feel obligated to manufacture drama for the sake of a headline. I’ll admit, my initial instinct was to point the finger at him, but once you see the replay, it’s obvious the ball was gliding across the grass like it was on a polished hardwood floor... until everything went sideways. It’s just a stroke of bad luck—though, for us, it's the kind of lucky break that only happens once in twenty years!
Hannah Thompson2 Hannah Thompson2 Active Member
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joined Jul 2005
#9 ·
Look, there’s no denying it—goalkeeping is one of the hardest jobs in sports,

I was just looking at this newspaper write-up where they gave Robinson a 4 out of 10, which—honestly?—is just ridiculous.

He actually played quite well; sure, he took the blame for the first goal, but the second one? Not on him.

I mean, Neville shouldn't be pinning everything on the keeper, but when you can't help it, how can you blame Robinson? He was stuck behind a literal wall of grass that completely blocked his view—you can see it clearly on the replay, the ball just took a bad bounce right at that moment,

so it was really just a freak accident—a series of unfortunate events where the goalie isn't actually at fault.
nimblemarlin17 nimblemarlin17 Regular
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joined Mar 2004
#10 ·
Not really. During that last World Cup match, we got handed a total gift on a silver platter that nearly cost us our spot in the next round.
slybear43 slybear43 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2006
#11 ·
Being a goalkeeper is clearly a curse; just look at Antimon, who used to play the position, and you can see exactly why his posts turn out looking like this.

Here is your two-day delay, 🙂
Andrew Gomez4 Andrew Gomez4 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2006
#12 ·
I was actually surprised by how solid his saves were—that second goal was just a fluke, happens to the best of them.
Honestly though, it feels like England just doesn't produce world-class keepers like we see from guys like Kahn, Lehmann, Ricardo, Czech, or Dida...
Even at the World Cup, Buffon😠 somehow walked away as the best, even though I thought Lehmann and Ricardo actually outplayed him.🙏

PS—a buddy of mine plays goalie in a minor league down here and managed to let in a shot straight from the center circle.🙏 Man, we haven't stopped giving him grief since.🤣
Larry Martin11 Larry Martin11 Active Member
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joined Feb 2008
#13 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:It's true that being a goalkeeper is one of the toughest jobs in soccer,
but I can't help but look back at those newspaper headlines where Robinson was slapped with a 4 out of 10 rating—which, honestly, is just insane.
Look, he played well overall; sure, he was to blame for the first goal, but the second one? Not him.
Neville shouldn't have been passing it back to the keeper in the first place, but when you can't, you can't really blame Robinson—he was basically staring at a patch of grass he couldn't see through, and if you watch the replay, the ball clearly took a wicked bounce right at that moment.
So, it was just a freak accident—a series of bad circumstances where the keeper isn't actually at fault.

...I more or less agree, though I feel the need to point out a few things:
1. No matter how tragic, unlucky, or completely innocent Robinson was in this scenario, it was—well, it was ridiculous.🙂 And because it was so absurdly funny—and since the team handed up three massive points and ended up becoming a laughingstock for the global soccer community (because, let's face it, people always love watching the "giants" stumble)—there has to be a scapegoat. And who else would it be but the goalie? So, poor Robinson is stuck in the crosshairs, whether as a punchline or a target for criticism. It’s sad, sure—I was pulling for the US team, so I felt for him too—but that's just how it works.
2. As much as it might be unfair, please don't pin this entirely on Neville either. He didn't react perfectly, but he did what seemed like the logical move at the time. It wasn't some panicked, brainless reflex; he genuinely thought—or at least that's my guess, unless someone wants to accuse me of being a mind-reader—that passing it back to Robinson wouldn't be an issue. What happened, happened. Garry's call turned out to be wrong, but I still can't stand seeing him get roasted for it. I mean, it's Garry Neville we're talking about, after all. 🙂 😳
3. Andrew Gomez4 is spot on here: Americans really do struggle with goalkeeping depth, and this wasn't Robinson's first slip-up. So, maybe we shouldn't go overboard with the sympathy, even if he didn't deserve this much heat given how solid he was for the rest of the match. IMHO, he isn't even responsible for that first goal—his defense absolutely should have cleared that up—but hey, here we are.

...so, yeah, that's my two cents. 😁
Edward Hernandez332 Edward Hernandez332 Active Member
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joined Oct 2006
#14 ·
The Americans haven't had a legitimate presence in goal since David Seaman—and let’s be honest, even he was prone to those occasional, maddening lapses in judgment. They are desperately hunting for their next Peter Shilton, and I actually heard a rumor that there's some kid playing for a tiny local club just for kicks who is actually an absolute wall between the posts 😉
Gregory Walker15 Gregory Walker15 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#15 ·
Andrew Gomez4 said:By the way, a buddy of mine playing goalie in a minor league US circuit actually conceded a goal from the center circle.🙏 We gave him such a hard time about it.🤣

I've been on the receiving end of that once myself, I must admit. It isn't exactly a pleasant feeling, is it?🤣
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#16 ·
What Seamen? Please, talk about Shilton. Seamen used to let in absolute screamers—like, remember that one Ronaldinho's goal back in Japan? 😵 Honestly, that was way more of a total fluke than this mess at the stadium here... this was just bad luck, plain and simple. The ball just bounced right under his foot. I’d say he’s maybe 10% at fault, tops. And man, those other saves he made during the game? Absolutely legendary. I really think he might be the best American keeper we've seen in decades. Seriously, how he managed to stop Modrić and Kranjčar was nothing short of incredible.

And don't even get me started on Shilton... I mean, that guy was out there trying, but he just couldn't move like he should have. He could barely lift his feet off the grass, let alone pull off some wild acrobatic save. I've always wondered why they even put that old, stationary dude in goal to begin with.
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#17 ·
Edward Hernandez332 said:The Americans haven't had a legitimate keeper since David Seaman, and honestly, even he was prone to making massive blunders. They desperately need a new Peter Shilton, and I heard there's some guy playing for a tiny club just for kicks who is actually a brick wall in goal.😉

That exact same guy holds the record for wearing the number 1 jersey during the worst goals in history—at least according to the Americans themselves—thanks to that free kick from Ronaldinho back in Japan.🙂 )

But now those same Americans have stripped him of that title🤣 and handed it straight to Robinson.😁
brighthawk20 brighthawk20 MemberOP
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joined Sep 2006
#18 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:It’s an objective fact that playing goalkeeper is one of the most brutal jobs in soccer,

I was just looking back at a newspaper headline where Robinson was given a 4 rating, which, if you ask me, is completely absurd.

Look, he played well enough. He was responsible for the first goal, sure, but the second one? Not on him.

Neville shouldn't have been pinning that on the keeper, but when you're stuck behind a literal wall of grass that obscures your vision—which the replay shows clearly—and the ball takes a wicked bounce right at that moment,

you're looking at pure bad luck. It's a freak occurrence, not a failure of skill.

Hannah Thompson2, what are you, some kind of Canadian?
If not, quit the fancy linguistic gymnastics and just type normally without all those extra marks...

It’s painful to read... that weird way of writing...
blueranger12 blueranger12 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#19 ·
Look, he could’ve seen plenty of guys out there. He just needs to scan the field for half a second to see where the ball is landing. Especially when you're clearing it. A goalie plays a different game than everyone else. You have to be sharp. You have to be precise. Period.
Roger Allen3 Roger Allen3 Regular
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joined Oct 2003
#20 ·
The media in America really messes with a keeper's head; they tear them apart after just one clumsy mistake or a silly goal. They’ll cry about David Seaman, conveniently forgetting how they absolutely crucified him back in the day for conceding long-range screamers and other nonsense. No goalkeeper playing a heavy schedule like this is going to be immune to those kinds of goals. Even Buffon conceded an identical goal a few seasons back—and people still swear he's the greatest to ever do it! Nobody even remembers those early comedic blunders Dida made when he first joined Milan. American journalists completely ignore the fact that the opposition only had one real chance in ninety minutes, which only happened because of our own error. Instead, everything gets pinned on Robinson's blunder; suddenly, he's the sole reason for the loss. If it weren't for his slip, they'd say we would have been crushed... 🙄

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