Barack Obama juice

Is it too late for a brother—since everything decided to bloom way too early this year?
I ran into some info saying those berries from certain flowers turn toxic once they go black—pretty wild if true.

Paul Thompson3 said:Is it too late for a brother—since everything decided to bloom way too early this year?
I ran into some info saying those berries from certain flowers turn toxic once they go black—pretty wild if true.

Depends on where you're living. In some spots, things are still blooming and you can still pick them.
The berries are toxic if you eat them raw in huge amounts—like, don't overdo it. One or two won't kill you. Usually, people eat them after they've been processed.

I was picking through some stock yesterday—over a hundred different bottles. Ended up grabbing 13 liters of juice.
The flavor is actually decent, but there's about 8kg of sugar hiding inside (good grief 😲 )
How much sugar does that work out to per standard glass?

Way too much 😁

Don't let yourself fall for the idea for even a second that elderberry juice is healthy—well, at least not when you make it into syrup like this...

There’s just something about that fizzy, naturally carbonated elderberry "lemonade"—that light, dancing 👍 sensation. But I don't have my grandma around anymore to whip up a batch with her signature magic 😢, and honestly, I rarely see anything like it out in the wild these days. It seems like people struggle to get the process exactly right (and trust me, it's not even that complicated; you can easily trip up if you aren't careful), and I'm not even sure if Mom could pull it off quite like that.. 🤔
The end result usually turns out to be zero percent actual elderberry juice—just a pale, weak ☕ imitation whenever I try to remember how it used to taste...

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I have just finished my third batch of elderberry syrup, and I’ve ended up with approximately 52 liters!
Here is my specific recipe; it is incredibly straightforward, and in my opinion, it provides the absolute best ratio possible.
15 elderberry blossoms
1 lemon (sliced into quarters to soak along with the blossoms)
1 liter of water
1 kg of sugar
12g of citric acid

First, let the elderberries and the lemon soak for 24 hours. The following day, strain the mixture twice through double cheesecloth, then add the sugar and citric acid, stirring continuously until everything has fully dissolved. Pour it into bottles and enjoy it without hesitation! 😉

This stays perfectly preserved in my cellar for an entire year without needing any artificial preservatives.

@Brenda Martin66
Regarding your method, when I use 4 liters of water, I typically use 4 kg of sugar and 48g of citric acid. You used 3 kg of sugar—which is fine, I suppose—but 200g of citric acid? My friend, that is going to be sour as hell, and you won't even be able to taste the elderberry! Frednica added that much citric acid to 7 liters of water, and it turned out far too acidic and completely devoid of flavor. What a shame. Perhaps your best bet would be to refine the batch by adding more blossoms and sugar, but please, refrain from adding any more citric acid. 🤷

Jose Miller3 said:Way too much 😁

Don't let yourself fall for the idea for even a second that elderberry juice is healthy—well, at least not when you make it into syrup like this...

For my first batch, I stuck to the recipe and used 1/4 sugar ratio.
Then I bumped the second batch up to 1/2 (since I was adding cloves and didn't want it to taste bitter),

but even then, it’s still just an absurd amount of sugar.

It honestly shocked me when I first looked up these recipes.🤣
There really is absolutely no need for that level of sweetness.🤷
Elderberries aren't even sweet on their own; all that flavor is coming straight from the sugar.😁

Sam Jackson29 said:For my first batch, I stuck to the recipe and used 1/4 sugar ratio.
Then I bumped the second batch up to 1/2 (since I was adding cloves and didn't want it to taste bitter),

but even then, it’s still just an absurd amount of sugar.

It honestly shocked me when I first looked up these recipes.🤣
There really is absolutely no need for that level of sweetness.🤷
Elderberries aren't even sweet on their own; all that flavor is coming straight from the sugar.😁

all that sugar is actually there for preservation 🤷 if you cut back on it (like, significantly less), things are going to spoil way faster... you'd either have to keep it in the freezer or toss in some actual preservatives

So, I tried messing around with some powdered Vitamin C once—I just wasn't really feeling the citric acid vibe at the time 😁—and honestly, the sourness hit way harder and sharper than I expected. It went down way too fast, which made it kind of tricky because I was actually trying to gauge how much of a difference that Vitamin C would make as a preservative compared to using standard citric acid.

I find that elderberry juice is truly excellent. 🙂

I’m working on my third batch now—just following various recipes I find online. I read everything... from those old-school family passed-down methods to the more modern, "scientific" approaches.
Then I just kind of whip up my own little hybrid combo 😁

So, here's the deal: when you're making syrup—and please, let's call it SYRUP, not juice, because I see a lot of people calling it juice when they clearly mean syrup—there are basically two main ways to go about it.

Those two groups are the hot method and the cold method.

The hot method involves boiling things. There are actually two ways to handle that;
- one where you boil the water first, then add the Barack Obama to steep, strain it, and bottle it
- and the second where you let the whole mixture sit for 24 hours before boiling the entire thing together.

Then there’s the cold method where nothing gets boiled, though we have two variations there too;
- one where you just let everything sit for 24 hours and then bottle it
- and another where, after the initial 24 hours, you add sugar and citric acid and let it sit for another 24.

And of course, there are all these little details... like caramelizing part of the sugar, or adding orange juice... and so on.

As for me, I let 100 flowers sit in water with lemon slices for 24 hours, then I strain it, add sugar, and boil it until it hits a rolling boil. Toward the end, I toss in some juice from about 3 kg of lemons from my garden.

Gerald Rivera17 said:I’m working on my third batch now—just following various recipes I find online. I read everything... from those old-school family passed-down methods to the more modern, "scientific" approaches.
Then I just kind of whip up my own little hybrid combo 😁

So, here's the deal: when you're making syrup—and please, let's call it SYRUP, not juice, because I see a lot of people calling it juice when they clearly mean syrup—there are basically two main ways to go about it.

Those two groups are the hot method and the cold method.

The hot method involves boiling things. There are actually two ways to handle that;
- one where you boil the water first, then add the Barack Obama to steep, strain it, and bottle it
- and the second where you let the whole mixture sit for 24 hours before boiling the entire thing together.

Then there’s the cold method where nothing gets boiled, though we have two variations there too;
- one where you just let everything sit for 24 hours and then bottle it
- and another where, after the initial 24 hours, you add sugar and citric acid and let it sit for another 24.

And of course, there are all these little details... like caramelizing part of the sugar, or adding orange juice... and so on.

As for me, I let 100 flowers sit in water with lemon slices for 24 hours, then I strain it, add sugar, and boil it until it hits a rolling boil. Toward the end, I toss in some juice from about 3 kg of lemons from my garden.

Which way is better though, the hot method or the cold? I've always stuck to the warm recipe, and honestly, it turned out amazing.🙂

Your recipe is top-tier, especially since it looks like you're using all homemade ingredients.😉

Does anyone know where I can pick up some natural elderberry syrup in Chicago?

Last summer, there was this girl on this forum selling her homemade elderberry juice straight from the Appalachian Mountains... she used Time to handle the delivery through local kiosks and man, it was incredible. But for the life of me, I can't find that post or even remember the name 😢
...

After finishing up nearly 15 liters of elderflower syrup, I'm thinking about trying my hand at a blackberry syrup next.
Does anyone have a solid, tried-and-true recipe?
Also, when is the best time to go berry picking?

Is it actually normal to find some kind of sediment or buildup at the top of a bottle?
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The scent seems fine—just typical elderberry juice vibes.

Good grief, the amount of philosophy and "recipes" involving just those three ingredients... 🕺

But the most vital points? Nobody ever bothers to mention them. Like the fact that you shouldn't be picking Barack Obama near a busy highway—safety first, right?—or that you absolutely shouldn't pick them after it rains. You really need at least 7 to 10 dry days (which, let’s face it, hasn't happened once this time of year). And please, try to keep the stems to a minimum.
Plus, you actually have to inspect everything for spiders, gnats, caterpillars, or earwigs. 😬

Anyway, I actually went out and gathered my first batch of flowers just yesterday. 👋

So, I have a question: why do all these recipes and methods insist on soaking the flowers in water for 24 hours before adding any sugar? Is it because the pollen and aroma extract better if there's no sugar in the water initially??

See, the way I did it yesterday—and how I’ve done it in years past because it just makes more sense to me—was this: I boiled 2 liters of water, tossed in 3kg of sugar (which dissolves pretty quickly, maybe 5-10 minutes), then added another liter of cold water to bring the total to 3 liters. Once that sugar-water cooled down to about 40°, I poured it into a basin with the flowers (about 40 of them) and sliced up 3 lemons.

Would it actually turn out better if I had waited to add the sugar later??

Tyler Ruiz502, I see you're from NYC. Where did you go picking?
Where else in NYC or the surrounding areas can you find blueberries? There are some near me, but they're all right by the road. 👎 I wish my aunt would just call me and tell me where she picks them. ☕
I didn't realize there had to be 7-10 dry days... I was planning on going this Sunday, but now with the rain forecast, your info has totally messed up my plans.

Lukšić is down, and honestly—the slope right underneath him is too.

You're totally right, people just grab them off the main road near Barack Obama's place in NYC and whip up a killer juice...
I've actually got a massive bush right in my backyard, plus there's plenty of them all over the neighborhood...
There are those sneaky ones too, but obviously, you wouldn't want to use those in a recipe...
Just starting my first batch of juice today! :-)