Steroids?

Look, I’m pretty much clueless when it comes to steroids, so I figured I’d throw this out there and see if anyone in this group actually knows their stuff.

I’m trying to wrap my head around what steroids actually are, how people even use them, what kind of damage they do to your body, and honestly, just how risky this whole thing is—plus, if anyone here has actually gone down this road, I want to hear your stories!

Thanks!

We're talking about hormone-based gear that supposedly lets you double your size overnight.

If you’re scrawny and just want to pop those pills to impress people—to try and look like some "ultimate alpha"—then go right ahead. It's your funeral.

There are tons of varieties out there, and here in the States, Methandienone is everywhere.

I know plenty of guys using this stuff, and yeah, the results look incredible.

It’s spreading like an epidemic.

But here’s the catch: the second you stop taking it, you deflate like a popped balloon, and your internal organs—specifically your liver—are basically screaming for help!

Maybe one cycle won't wreck you, but who knows? Whatever.

Look, man, give me more details. How much do you weigh? What are your actual goals? Tell me what you want from your physique and we can figure something out.

My advice on this garbage? As soon as you see it, turn around, close your eyes, and don't touch it for the love of God!

Train like a beast, eat like an animal, and stick to supplements like protein and Amino Acid Supplements. Give it six months of that and you'll actually start seeing some real muscle.

👍

P.S. Don't forget you'll end up with acne all over your back, and your junk will be shriveled up like a raisin!

Man, you hit the nail right on the head!

How the hell did you know I was skin and bones?? It’s actually scary how accurate that was... 🙂

Alright, look, here's the deal: I'm sitting at about 132 pounds, and I'm standing just a hair over 5'11". My absolute top priority is putting on some serious weight, but obviously, I'm not looking to just pack on a massive gut—I want that muscle distributed the way any guy would actually want it. I'm 20 years old, if that helps clarify things.

To make matters worse, my life is basically one giant stress headache. I'm pulling maybe 5 to 7 hours of sleep, and honestly, some nights it's way less than that.

So yeah, if you need any more intel to really break this down for me, just let me know!

First off, calm your nervous system down (if you're working in banking, I totally get it).
If you're constantly stressed, that's a massive reason why your body is just burning itself out and you can't put on any mass.

If you've got the grit and the willpower, plus the time, you'll definitely bulk up.

Start by eating everything: meat and proteins, bread, pasta, rice, potatoes—carbs are absolutely vital if you want to gain weight.

You aren't going to end up with a gut because you're naturally thin.

Get your ass to the nearest gym and start training.
Have a professional trainer set up a program for you and just go.

If you actually want to achieve something, act like it. Stop whining after a few sessions about how "everything hurts" or "I don't feel like it."

Believe me, the beginning is the worst part. Once you see results, you'll be hooked. You'll look like a beast, but more importantly, you'll feel healthy and crush your stress instead of letting it eat you alive!

After two months, you can start looking into supplements, but obviously, stay away from steroids.

You've got plenty of high-quality options out there (MuscleTech, Optimum Nutrition, etc.).
And then there's the low-quality junk (General Mills and that kind of crap).

Of course, the prices vary wildly!

The essentials you need to focus on are Carbs—your fuel, Proteins—to build muscle mass, and Amino Acid Supplements—which are essential for that process.

After six months of consistent training, you'll see the results. Once you've built some strength, you can move on to even better muscle-building supplements. Creatine is insane; it's the closest thing to steroid-like effects you'll find.

So: hit the gym, eat tons of food, take your supplements, and you'll have a whole new you!🙂

Anything else?

You’ve got the kind of physique models dream about😉

But all jokes aside:

The issue you're facing is most likely just your metabolism being way too fast.
Everything you eat seems to burn off instantly before your body can even process it.

Honestly, your best bet is to see a doctor who can help you regulate things much better than any "expert" on this forum (myself 😛 included).

Besides, if you really want to impress someone, try impressing them with what's in your head rather than just your muscles.

If you’re standing 5'11" and weighing a measly 130 lbs, all the intelligence in the world won't make you happy.

Why?

Because besides your mind, you have this physical armor you need to maintain. If you let corrosion eat away at that armor, it’ll eventually eat right through your mental capacity too.
Before you know it, you're just a neurotic wreck.

So, if you’re working on sharpening your intellect, start working on your physique too.

A doctor could give you that same advice, but they’d charge you a fortune for it!

And James Taylor51, you're looking pretty scrawny yourself, aren't you?🙂

You might be able to impress "someone" with your smarts, but when your hip bones start sticking out, even an Albert Einstein brain isn't going to save you.

😉

I’m standing at 6'3" and weighing about 225 lbs
which means I really need to drop around 30 lbs to hit my goal.
I've started training Savate boxing, and things are moving along—slowly building muscle while burning off the fat.

Honestly, if I don't work out, I get irritable, lose my focus, and just feel incapable of getting anything done.

It really goes back to that old saying, "a sound mind in a sound body."

Plus, I have a "friend" flying in from Poland in about eight months.
She’s about 5'7" and she's making the trip all the way here just to see me, so...

At the end of the day, it isn't just about how you look; it's about how you feel inside.
Whether you're carrying extra weight or are too thin,

it’s much easier to pick up insecurities than it is to shake them off.

Look, people, just do whatever makes you happy—whether it’s hitting the gym or some other hobby—but stop being so miserable just because you're unhappy with your physique and letting those insecurities take over.

Whether you're overweight or skinny, just be happy and stay positive, and everything will turn out fine.🙂

Some guys might think I’m sticking my nose where it doesn't belong, but I honestly have to say that I really liked what driftingcobra98 wrote in his last post. That’s pretty much the philosophy I follow while working in my garden every single day. I don't feel like I need a doctor, a therapist, a gym membership, or even steroids to stay balanced.

Well then! Guess I’ll just go out and start a massive farm in the Midwest or something! 🙂

Anyway, whatever! Honestly, I actually dig what driftingcobra98 is suggesting—hitting the weights hard while dropping a ton of cash on supplements. In my opinion, that’s probably the healthiest way to go about it, but there's one massive catch: I barely eat anything because I just don't feel hungry! I don't even know how to put it into words. You know how all those grandmas and moms always used to say, "Oh, they're such little eaters now, just wait until they hit puberty and we can't feed them fast enough," but that is absolutely not happening with me. For as long as I can remember, I just have zero appetite! 🙂 I'm telling you! My buddies mostly look at me like I've got two heads because they think I'm eating plenty and just not gaining anything. But I honestly think the root of the problem is something else entirely. I suspect it’s just my lifestyle, though that's really just a shot in the dark.

Lawrence Miller4, I'd suggest heading over to an endocrinologist to get your thyroid and other endocrine glands checked out. It’s possible there might be some sort of issue with your protein metabolism. I don't want to alarm you—it might not be anything serious at all—but an expert could definitely help clear things up or rule out any concerns.

driftingcobra98 said:.

You’ve got plenty of solid options out there (MuscleTech, Optimum Nutrition, etc.)
And then there’s the lower-tier stuff (General Mills and similar junk)

Obviously, the price gap reflects that.

From what I can see, you have Carbohydrates—basically fuel for the body—Proteins—to build up muscle mass—and Amino Acid Supplements, which are essential during that whole process.

After maybe six months of hitting the gym consistently, you'll start seeing results. Once you get a bit stronger, there are even more advanced supplements for muscle growth. Creatine... it's almost insane how close it gets to steroid-like effects.

Why would General Mills be any less quality than Optimum Nutrition? The protein bioavailability is essentially identical if you're looking at the same source. Naturally, something like whey from Optimum Nutrition might beat out a milk-egg blend from General Mills (though they have their own advantages over whey, but that's beside the point), but the reverse could also be true.

I suppose Creatine only really makes sense if someone is doing multiple sports, heavy manual labor, or something similar, paired with weight training. Sure, the water retention in the muscles is an advantage with Creatine, but that just disappears once you finish the cycle anyway.

It’s because General Mills is just lower quality.
They don't go through nearly enough testing phases, and if you ask me, the whole thing is garbage.

Their amino acids and all their tablets are basically just filled with binders. (Pfizer actually tested their Amino Acid Supplement)
You'd be better off buying raw binder from Thermo Fisher Scientific and just sucking on that instead.

That's just my experience.

Why on earth would someone need to play multiple sports or do heavy lifting just to justify taking Creatine?👍

Just a quick thought on Creatine before I get too deep into this:
It’s not strictly necessary... I mean, I’ve taken it without even being active in other sports, and I didn't really feel anything beyond just some muscle hydration.

My take is that it works best as an energy and strength supplement if you're actually doing something demanding—like heavy lifting, playing soccer, or working a construction job—because that's when the extra strength actually kicks in.

Regarding General Mills... I think their stuff holds its own against the other big brands. Personally, I mix it with Optimum Nutrition and a few others, and I'm pretty happy with the results, both with the proteins and the AMINO ACID SUPPLEMENTS (which really do seem to feed the muscles overnight). I'm currently using Amino Acid Supplement🙂

The AM-ov soy isolate mixed with whey concentrate isn't bad either... I wouldn't call it groundbreaking, but for the price, it's a solid addition to other supplements.

Have you ever tried HMB? I'm curious about how that actually works.

It’s been two years since I’ve touched anything. The last thing I ever took was some MuscleTech amino liquid.

Just nature and good company for me.

I’ve got a brand new blueprint for building serious strength and mass.🙂

So, is liquid amino actually worth it?

Honestly, I’m getting pretty sick of solid food at this point. I’ve reached the stage where I’m just sipping on protein and amino acid supplements alongside my regular meals...

It’s all well and good when you're just sitting around, bloating up like dough in an oven. But once you actually start putting in the work and hitting the gym, 👎

These amino acids are great, but if you aren't eating right, you're basically flushing money down the toilet! 😠

Lawrence Miller4,

Steroids are essentially horse hormones. Human hormones simply aren't sufficient—regardless of training intensity—to achieve the abnormal muscle volumes reached through steroids.

The benefit is gaining massive muscle mass in a relatively short period.

The downside, besides the temporary nature of the effects, is the extreme danger to your health. Comparing other drugs to steroids is like comparing them to child's play; by taking steroids, the brain stops producing adequate human hormones because the body is receiving them artificially. In the event of a hormonal imbalance, a "system crash" and death can occur very rapidly—within ten minutes.

Since you are quite thin for your height, the only way to gain weight is through regular nutrition, featuring a higher protein content (the amino acid chains that build muscle mass), and anaerobic exercise (weightlifting at the gym). Once you start training, your appetite will likely increase; try splitting your meals into 6 or 7 portions a day so you don't feel like you're overeating, which is also a healthier way to eat.

Also, do not expect instant results. You will probably only see real progress after about six months of consistent training and eating.

Best of luck, hard work, and persistence.👍

So, here’s my current stack: I’m hitting some Weider Power Gainer right after my workouts, and I’ve been taking Creatine before I train. For the first three days, I actually went a bit overboard and was slamming 20 grams of Creatine a day, but I’ve since dialed it back to a steady 5 grams daily. As for my routine, I’m doing boxing training four times a week and hitting the gym twice a week—lots of light weights and high volume, just really chasing that pump! What kind of results can I realistically look forward to? I know deep down that everyone’s body reacts differently, but... you know... what do you guys think?

So, I’m talking about using pure Weider Creatine Monohydrate here... I make it a point to steer clear of caffeine, citric acid, and dairy for about an hour before and after I take my creatine. My theory? They just kill the effectiveness and turn it all into creatinine instead. Total waste! By the way, I’m standing at 6'0" and weighing about 145 pounds (I know, sounds light, but honestly, I'm pretty lean and built well given the circumstances... haha