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Hormonal Contraception: The Pill [General Discussion]

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Thomas Palmer7 Thomas Palmer7 Member
35 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1741 ·
not really sure where to drop this question, so here goes nothing
okay, this might sound a little silly, but since I’m totally unsure about the answer, I figured I’d just ask you guys instead

when you're on the pill, how does it actually work to track fertile vs. non-fertile days? and is it even worth tracking if the whole point is to make your cycle regular anyway...

thanks
Jeffrey Walker3 Jeffrey Walker3 Regular
261 messages
joined May 2010
#1742 ·
So when you're on the pill and don't have fertile days... you're basically protected for all 28 days of your cycle!
Thomas Palmer7 Thomas Palmer7 Member
35 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1743 ·
I mean, I get it... but since I’m a bit skeptical about those pills anyway, I was thinking maybe I should just factor in being protected. But if I'm not actually covered, then it’s just... whenever and wherever...
Charles Thomas70 Charles Thomas70 Member
18 messages
joined Jul 2008
#1744 ·
I guess when you're on the pill, you aren't actually ovulating.
Jeffrey Walker3 Jeffrey Walker3 Regular
261 messages
joined May 2010
#1745 ·
No balls, no fertilizing 😁
If you're taking your pills correctly, I honestly don't see any reason to freak out
Robin Diaz4 Robin Diaz4 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jun 2006
#1746 ·
mellowsurfer34 said:So, I started taking Logest about ten days ago. Before this, I wasn't on any kind of birth control at all, so I’m pretty much flying blind here. For the last ten days, I've had this light bleeding—kind of a dark red color—and my stomach feels like I'm going through my period all over again in the middle of the night, even though it was supposed to be finished by now. Is that actually normal? I'm guessing my body is just trying to adjust, right? Also, regarding smoking while on the pill... man, it’s not easy to just quit cold turkey. I’ve managed to cut back by maybe two or three cigarettes a day, but I still have this constant, nagging fear that something bad is going to happen. I keep reading stuff about strokes and things like that, and since I'm young, it all feels so heavy and new. Sorry, I really don't have the time to sit here and read through everyone else's stories on the forum, so if there's a kind soul out there who could give me a quick rundown, I'd appreciate it.

mellowsurfer34, I went through the exact same thing during my first month on the pill. It’s perfectly normal; if I recall correctly, it's actually mentioned in the patient information leaflet. If you haven't had a chance to read those instructions yet, I’d highly recommend doing so.
Since I’ve been on the pill for about ten years now (with a few breaks here and there), and I only actually quit smoking this year, I’m still very much alive 😁. In fact, I just had a full blood panel done two months ago, and everything came back absolutely perfect...
Thomas Collins60 Thomas Collins60 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jun 2011
#1747 ·
So, here’s my update again... today was supposed to be one of those days where things actually happen, but nothing really came of it. I got a tiny bit of spotting—literally just a little smudge on my underwear once—then I changed and that was it. No crazy feelings or anything unusual to report. 🙂
If you’re looking for a way to push things back, this is my approach: I’m delaying right now because of my cycle, but I’d much rather just get it over with a month early. That way, it shifts my schedule for the month I actually need it, and I can just deal with all the potential symptoms right now instead of waiting. 🙂
slyjackal36 slyjackal36 Member
18 messages
joined Jan 2011
#1748 ·
dustydriver12 said:Fair enough, I don't have an issue with that (hopefully), but does a general practitioner actually play a role in this process? I mean, regarding referrals and all that—do I even need to see my primary doctor first?

I approached my primary care physician for the first time to request a full blood panel. Following that, my OB-GYN provided a referral for coagulation tests and several other screenings. In reality, you should be handling all of this through your gynecologist. 😉
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
211 messages
joined Jun 2012
#1749 ·
Thomas Palmer7 said:I mean, I get it... but since I’m a bit skeptical about those pills anyway, I was thinking maybe I should just factor in being protected. But if I'm not actually covered, then it’s just... whenever and wherever...

There really isn't any reason to be skeptical here. Combined birth control works by stopping the hormones that trigger ovulation in the first place. It also thickens the cervical mucus and thins out the uterine lining, which basically makes it impossible for anything to implant. As for ovulation, it can happen on the very day you miss a pill—or even a day or two later. If you ever forget one, that's when you definitely need to use backup protection, like a condom.🙄
Hope that helps clear things up!☕
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
211 messages
joined Jun 2012
#1750 ·
Robin Diaz4 said:mellowsurfer34, I went through the exact same thing during my first month on the pill. It’s perfectly normal; if I recall correctly, it's actually mentioned in the patient information leaflet. If you haven't had a chance to read those instructions yet, I’d highly recommend doing so.
Since I’ve been on the pill for about ten years now (with a few breaks here and there), and I only actually quit smoking this year, I’m still very much alive 😁. In fact, I just had a full blood panel done two months ago, and everything came back absolutely perfect...

By the way—smoking is an absolute no-go when you're using birth control!!!!!😠 The risk of blood clots jumps up significantly... and honestly, all those blood clotting tests people insist on before starting are usually pretty pointless because everyone's results come back normal anyway. A doctor should really just look at your medical history to decide if you're a good candidate or not. Smokers simply aren't candidates. Most of those tests are just done to make patients feel better, but they're expensive and largely unnecessary (I'm talking about things like clotting time and prothrombin time). The biggest cardiovascular risk window is usually within those first three months of use...
There's actually a medical textbook called "Benefits and Risks of Hormonal Contraception" by Dr. Shimunic and colleagues. If anyone can track down a copy, it's worth a read...
☕
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1751 ·
swiftbear86 said:By the way—smoking is an absolute no-go when you're using birth control!!!!!😠 The risk of blood clots jumps up significantly... and honestly, all those blood clotting tests people insist on before starting are usually pretty pointless because everyone's results come back normal anyway. A doctor should really just look at your medical history to decide if you're a good candidate or not. Smokers simply aren't candidates. Most of those tests are just done to make patients feel better, but they're expensive and largely unnecessary (I'm talking about things like clotting time and prothrombin time). The biggest cardiovascular risk window is usually within those first three months of use...
There's actually a medical textbook called "Benefits and Risks of Hormonal Contraception" by Dr. Shimunic and colleagues. If anyone can track down a copy, it's worth a read...
☕

I'm in.
I remember it vividly—back in 2005 when I had my endometriosis surgery. The doctor at the hospital gave me the lowdown on Yasmin just like he was talking to a kid: "Look, honey, if you smoke, forget about it... I'll be putting you straight on injections instead." So yeah, this whole Yasmin drama started way before any of these recent headlines.
Unfortunately, most people just prefer to look the other way when things get uncomfortable.
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
211 messages
joined Jun 2012
#1752 ·
Angela Wright said:I'm in.
I remember it vividly—back in 2005 when I had my endometriosis surgery. The doctor at the hospital gave me the lowdown on Yasmin just like he was talking to a kid: "Look, honey, if you smoke, forget about it... I'll be putting you straight on injections instead." So yeah, this whole Yasmin drama started way before any of these recent headlines.
Unfortunately, most people just prefer to look the other way when things get uncomfortable.

What kind of injections are we talking about? Hormones are hormones, regardless of whether it's the pill or something else, right?😕
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1753 ·
swiftbear86 said:What kind of injections are we talking about? Hormones are hormones, regardless of whether it's the pill or something else, right?😕

I mentioned earlier that I’m dealing with endometriosis. Basically, you can try to manage the symptoms with birth control pills, or you can opt for hormone injections—but those come with side effects so brutal they feel like being in a coma.
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
211 messages
joined Jun 2012
#1754 ·
Angela Wright said:I mentioned earlier that I’m dealing with endometriosis. Basically, you can try to manage the symptoms with birth control pills, or you can opt for hormone injections—but those come with side effects so brutal they feel like being in a coma.

Look, I’m a smoker too... and I totally get it, quitting is incredibly tough.😁☕
But honestly, wouldn't it still be worth the effort???😕
Thomas Palmer7 Thomas Palmer7 Member
35 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1755 ·
thanks 🙂

but honestly, I’m just a paranoid person by nature, so I tend to overthink this stuff too... like, I usually take my pills at 10, but sometimes life happens and it ends up being closer to 11:30, or maybe 9ish... but I don't really think that should make a huge difference

and thanks again for being so patient and getting back to me 🙂
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1756 ·
swiftbear86 said:Look, I’m a smoker too... and I totally get it, quitting is incredibly tough.😁☕
But honestly, wouldn't it still be worth the effort???😕

Wait, quit smoking?
Since I don't smoke, I'm already winning from day one. 😁

That said, I’m throwing my full, honest support behind anyone trying to kick the habit. I know plenty of people who actually pulled it off, and they're living much better lives because they finally dropped that massive weight off their shoulders.👍
Robin Diaz4 Robin Diaz4 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jun 2006
#1757 ·
swiftbear86 said:By the way—smoking is an absolute no-go when you're using birth control!!!!!😠 The risk of blood clots jumps up significantly... and honestly, all those blood clotting tests people insist on before starting are usually pretty pointless because everyone's results come back normal anyway. A doctor should really just look at your medical history to decide if you're a good candidate or not. Smokers simply aren't candidates. Most of those tests are just done to make patients feel better, but they're expensive and largely unnecessary (I'm talking about things like clotting time and prothrombin time). The biggest cardiovascular risk window is usually within those first three months of use...
There's actually a medical textbook called "Benefits and Risks of Hormonal Contraception" by Dr. Shimunic and colleagues. If anyone can track down a copy, it's worth a read...
☕


I couldn't agree more, which is exactly why I finally kicked the habit. I have zero interest in adding any unnecessary risks to my life right now. But yeah, truth be told, I used to smoke back in the day—and let’s just say I tried quitting about a hundred times. Every single one of those attempts involved leaning heavily on pills to get through it. 😳
As I get older, my health starts becoming a much more pressing concern. Honestly, I didn't quit smoking just because of the tablets; it was more about realizing that, all things considered, making a change like that is simply a sound life decision. 🤷
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
211 messages
joined Jun 2012
#1758 ·
Robin Diaz4 said:I couldn't agree more, which is exactly why I finally kicked the habit. I have zero interest in adding any unnecessary risks to my life right now. But yeah, truth be told, I used to smoke back in the day—and let’s just say I tried quitting about a hundred times. Every single one of those attempts involved leaning heavily on pills to get through it. 😳
As I get older, my health starts becoming a much more pressing concern. Honestly, I didn't quit smoking just because of the tablets; it was more about realizing that, all things considered, making a change like that is simply a sound life decision. 🤷

Major props to you for making such a great call...👍
silentcrane73 silentcrane73 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1759 ·
help me out here..
my period showed up today, but it wasn't supposed to happen for another 10 days. the issue is I started taking penicillin right at the end of my last cycle. my last time having sex was just a day before those injections kicked in. I’ve been super consistent with my birth control pills, so is it possible the penicillin made my period come early or messed with how well the pill works?
is there any chance I could be pregnant?
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active Member
211 messages
joined Jun 2012
#1760 ·
silentcrane73 said:help me out here..
my period showed up today, but it wasn't supposed to happen for another 10 days. the issue is I started taking penicillin right at the end of my last cycle. my last time having sex was just a day before those injections kicked in. I’ve been super consistent with my birth control pills, so is it possible the penicillin made my period come early or messed with how well the pill works?
is there any chance I could be pregnant?

It’s a common concern, but let's clear the air on this one. There’s this persistent idea floating around that taking penicillin can essentially neutralize or dial down how well oral contraceptives work. It’s like trying to run a marathon while someone is constantly tripping you up—you're still moving, but the efficiency just isn't there. Here’s the deal: for a long time, doctors were pretty worried about this. The theory was that antibiotics might mess with the gut bacteria that help process estrogen, potentially dropping those hormone levels below the threshold needed to prevent pregnancy. It’s a bit like having a leaky fuel tank in a car; if the fuel isn't staying where it needs to be, the engine isn't going to perform the way it’s supposed to. However, modern medical research has largely moved away from that fear. Most studies show that standard doses of antibiotics don't actually interfere with the effectiveness of birth control pills in a meaningful way. It’s not like the antibiotic acts as an "off switch" for your medication. That being said, I'm not a doctor, and everyone's body handles chemistry differently. If you're starting a round of antibiotics—say, for a sinus infection or something similar—it’s always worth a quick call to your physician or even just a chat with your pharmacist. They can give you the specific breakdown based on exactly what you're taking. It’s better to have that peace of mind than to spend the whole week worrying about it. Just a little extra caution goes a long way.
That’s exactly why I always say you can’t be too careful when it comes to extra layers of protection. It’s like driving through a heavy thunderstorm on a highway in the Midwest—you don't just hope for the best; you turn on your headlights, slow down, and maybe even grip the wheel a little tighter. You aren't being paranoid; you're just being smart. Having those extra safeguards in place is basically your safety net for when things inevitably get a little messy. Better to have them and not need them than to be caught completely off guard.
It’s totally possible that the dose of birth control was just too low, which might be why you're seeing that breakthrough bleeding. It kind of works like a thermostat—if the level isn't quite high enough to keep everything steady, the system starts to fluctuate.
Honestly, your best bet is to just give your gynecologist a call. It’s always better to get professional advice rather than guessing.🙄

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