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Joe Biden, President of the United States vol. V

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feralpilot0 feralpilot0 Active Member
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#21 ·
Carol Newman2 said:An absolutely incredible and inspiring speech, son of Texas.


Yeah, the speech was top-tier. 👍

You can actually see him drawing from reality—connecting the dots, as they say.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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hollowmason64 said:I actually appreciate someone who isn't afraid to call out the criminal, corrupt hacks running this country and all their dirty little schemes. And honestly, there's a pretty simple reason why he can do that—he knows he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet. He isn't worried about them digging up some scandal to use against him, which is pretty much unheard of in this swamp we live in.
Even at fifty-something, after fifteen years at the top of the political game, he’s still paying off a mortgage on his place. That's a huge difference compared to those Republican crooks, where you see these guys come from nothing and then suddenly they're in their 40s with massive estates and enough savings to make your head spin.

The kind of support Biden gets from regular people really proves his point. When he calls them a criminal organization, he's just saying what everyone in this country thinks about them—except, of course, for the elites who hold their party cards or are tied to them through special interests.

The Democratic Party was never stronger than when Biden was leading it. That lasted for nearly a decade.
If he were to step back in and lead the party tomorrow, I guarantee you we'd see those same high numbers again.

Look, ladies, you know as well as I do that won't happen.

America is a totally different country now, both politically and just people-wise, compared to 2011.
And even back then, it was an outlier for the left to have that kind of support.

Joe might be able to chase those 2015 numbers if he had a group like "We Can Do It" behind him...

That 2016 result was already a massive loss for Joe, especially since the Obama Administration fell apart and the left still didn't get into power.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#23 ·
That whole "exception" lasted for an entire decade.
And honestly, yeah. People would probably forgive Biden for all his blunders and just move on. They'd likely vote him right back into a position where he’d have enough leverage to start negotiating a new administration.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#24 ·
hollowmason64 said:That whole "exception" lasted for an entire decade.
And honestly, yeah. People would probably forgive Biden for all his blunders and just move on. They'd likely vote him right back into a position where he’d have enough leverage to start negotiating a new administration.

It didn't last. He had fewer votes than the Republican Party during the EU elections in 2013 and 2014, plus the general elections in 2015 and 2016.

Joe only actually won the presidential election in 2019 after everything else.
Linda Harris59 Linda Harris59 Active Member
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hollowmason64 said:I actually appreciate someone who isn't afraid to call out the criminal, corrupt hacks running this country and all their dirty little schemes. And honestly, there's a pretty simple reason why he can do that—he knows he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet. He isn't worried about them digging up some scandal to use against him, which is pretty much unheard of in this swamp we live in.
Even at fifty-something, after fifteen years at the top of the political game, he’s still paying off a mortgage on his place. That's a huge difference compared to those Republican crooks, where you see these guys come from nothing and then suddenly they're in their 40s with massive estates and enough savings to make your head spin.

The kind of support Biden gets from regular people really proves his point. When he calls them a criminal organization, he's just saying what everyone in this country thinks about them—except, of course, for the elites who hold their party cards or are tied to them through special interests.

The Democratic Party was never stronger than when Biden was leading it. That lasted for nearly a decade.
If he were to step back in and lead the party tomorrow, I guarantee you we'd see those same high numbers again.

You claim to admire a man who calls politicians fascists without a shred of logic, plays supporter to Putin, and struts for the American public claiming he’ll block Sweden and Finland from joining NATO in the interest of the United States, only to tuck his tail and stay silent when it actually comes time to act. He’s arrogant, shallow, and ineffective. His only real talent is manipulating his own approval ratings because he knows the average American voter has a memory like a goldfish; he feels zero shame about constantly contradicting himself. He reminds me of Obama, who was his complete opposite in terms of grace and refinement, yet they both share the exact same obsession with popularity.

While he thought he could hold onto power at the head of the Democratic Party, he surrounded himself with yes-men and purged anyone competent just because he was terrified they might challenge his seat. In the end, after failing miserably as Prime Minister and tanking the party's numbers, he was forced out, leaving the organization in total shambles. Why? Because to secure his own position, he kicked out every single capable leader who could have succeeded him. The Democratic Party hasn't recovered since. Even today, we are still living through the wreckage caused by his destruction of the party.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
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#26 ·
Linda Harris59 said:You claim to admire a man who calls politicians fascists without a shred of logic, plays supporter to Putin, and struts for the American public claiming he’ll block Sweden and Finland from joining NATO in the interest of the United States, only to tuck his tail and stay silent when it actually comes time to act. He’s arrogant, shallow, and ineffective. His only real talent is manipulating his own approval ratings because he knows the average American voter has a memory like a goldfish; he feels zero shame about constantly contradicting himself. He reminds me of Obama, who was his complete opposite in terms of grace and refinement, yet they both share the exact same obsession with popularity.

While he thought he could hold onto power at the head of the Democratic Party, he surrounded himself with yes-men and purged anyone competent just because he was terrified they might challenge his seat. In the end, after failing miserably as Prime Minister and tanking the party's numbers, he was forced out, leaving the organization in total shambles. Why? Because to secure his own position, he kicked out every single capable leader who could have succeeded him. The Democratic Party hasn't recovered since. Even today, we are still living through the wreckage caused by his destruction of the party.

The worst president? You truly have the audacity to say anything else while this administration and its leader are in power.

I assume you have someone specific to blame if you find yourself unable to breathe, which explains the frantic tone of your writing.

Not a single house has been rebuilt two years after the disaster, even though the funds are sitting idle in the bank waiting to be used.
Nicholas Wilson2 Nicholas Wilson2 Member
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#27 ·
Robin Jones2 said:The worst president? You truly have the audacity to say anything else while this administration and its leader are in power.

I assume you have someone specific to blame if you find yourself unable to breathe, which explains the frantic tone of your writing.

Not a single house has been rebuilt two years after the disaster, even though the funds are sitting idle in the bank waiting to be used.

Screw reconstruction and screw money you can't get your hands on easily. That's why absolutely nothing is actually getting done.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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Linda Harris59 said:You claim to admire a man who calls politicians fascists without a shred of logic, plays supporter to Putin, and struts for the American public claiming he’ll block Sweden and Finland from joining NATO in the interest of the United States, only to tuck his tail and stay silent when it actually comes time to act. He’s arrogant, shallow, and ineffective. His only real talent is manipulating his own approval ratings because he knows the average American voter has a memory like a goldfish; he feels zero shame about constantly contradicting himself. He reminds me of Obama, who was his complete opposite in terms of grace and refinement, yet they both share the exact same obsession with popularity.

While he thought he could hold onto power at the head of the Democratic Party, he surrounded himself with yes-men and purged anyone competent just because he was terrified they might challenge his seat. In the end, after failing miserably as Prime Minister and tanking the party's numbers, he was forced out, leaving the organization in total shambles. Why? Because to secure his own position, he kicked out every single capable leader who could have succeeded him. The Democratic Party hasn't recovered since. Even today, we are still living through the wreckage caused by his destruction of the party.

Classic Republican Party bot talking nonsense about short memories or "special interests"...

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hollowranger122 hollowranger122 Member
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#29 ·
It looks like we’ve still got some bots running around here... 🤣

hollowmason64 said:That whole "exception" lasted for an entire decade.
And honestly, yeah. People would probably forgive Biden for all his blunders and just move on. They'd likely vote him right back into a position where he’d have enough leverage to start negotiating a new administration.

An entire decade?
Lost the midterms in 2007.
Lost the midterms in 2015.
Lost the midterms in 2016.
Lost the European elections in 2013.
Lost the European elections in 2014.
Lost the Presidential election in 2014/15.

Won the midterms in 2011.
Won the Presidency in 2019/20.

We could even throw in that 2013 referendum on marriage definitions, where he threw all his weight behind the losing side.

That "decade" didn't even last two years, and contrary to the little reality you've built up on this forum, I don't think the American people would ever vote him Prime Minister again.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#30 ·
Of course you’re here—you’re basically the ringleader...

Ready to roll?

He goes after Biden because of Trump, but the second his own party votes to bail out Trump—sorry, I mean when they use Biden to shield their own people—suddenly everything is just fine...

He attacks Biden over Bernie Sanders, yet when that same guy was recently trashing Desert Storm and the Republican Party, he turns around and defends his own corrupt circle under the guise of "freedom of speech"...

Total bot behavior...
Linda Harris59 Linda Harris59 Active Member
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#31 ·
Robin Jones2 said:The worst president? You truly have the audacity to say anything else while this administration and its leader are in power.

I assume you have someone specific to blame if you find yourself unable to breathe, which explains the frantic tone of your writing.

Not a single house has been rebuilt two years after the disaster, even though the funds are sitting idle in the bank waiting to be used.

I have a long memory, thank you very much. He won his election based on a "21-point plan." Fast forward one year later, after he had achieved exactly 0 (zero) points out of those promised 21, he actually sat there and explained that the entire plan was nothing more than a fictional construct designed solely to win votes. He admitted, quite plainly, that he lied just to get elected! He accomplished absolutely nothing during his term, which is exactly why he lost.

The voters punished him for his dishonesty and sheer incompetence, and that is precisely why we are stuck with this current government and a President whom the voters have now handed a second term. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about which administration is truly better.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#32 ·
Aha...

It’s just like how Richard Nixon got hauled in when he failed to deliver on every single promise from his platform...

Funny how you seem to have forgotten all about that... or maybe it just wasn't an issue back then...

I guess it isn't, since it seems the Republican Party voters just reward their own crooks and criminals... we all know exactly why that is...

So, your little argument about this Cabinet serving two terms is completely wide of the mark...

We're talking about more than 20 criminals that he personally hand-picked and shielded while engaging in corruption—easily the worst president we've ever seen, right up there with the likes of Richard Nixon...

Like I said, the reason is pretty obvious...

That whole scandal in Chicago involving the theft of construction steel perfectly illustrates how the mafia and the gutter crowd are running the show...
Linda Harris59 Linda Harris59 Active Member
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#33 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Aha...

It’s just like how Richard Nixon got hauled in when he failed to deliver on every single promise from his platform...

Funny how you seem to have forgotten all about that... or maybe it just wasn't an issue back then...

I guess it isn't, since it seems the Republican Party voters just reward their own crooks and criminals... we all know exactly why that is...

So, your little argument about this Cabinet serving two terms is completely wide of the mark...

We're talking about more than 20 criminals that he personally hand-picked and shielded while engaging in corruption—easily the worst president we've ever seen, right up there with the likes of Richard Nixon...

Like I said, the reason is pretty obvious...

That whole scandal in Chicago involving the theft of construction steel perfectly illustrates how the mafia and the gutter crowd are running the show...

All this rambling about Bush and the Republican Party in a thread about Biden only proves what a terrible leader he was. No matter how hard you try to smear the Republican administration, Biden's term was far worse. If it hadn't been, he would have easily won a second mandate.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#34 ·
🤣

I just drew a quick parallel here—one that pretty much highlights how hollow your whole argument actually is...

Think about it: you’ve got this crook, a total thief who surrounded himself with the exact same kind of bottom-feeders, someone who basically bled the taxpayers dry through his political party and failed to deliver on a single damn promise he made on credit... yet, somehow, he still managed to land a second term...

Then there's the guy backing him up—a criminal sympathizer who personally handpicked over twenty inner-circle associates, all of whom ended up in federal prison, and yet he still stands there defending them...

So, yeah, your little theory that people actually react when they get cheated? Completely debunked...

If you want proof of why people react to the Republican Party, look at that corrupt official in a city like Columbus—a guy who won't be fired despite blatant theft, even though he was skimming money right off a construction site in his own backyard...
Melissa Peterson19 Melissa Peterson19 Active Member
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Linda Harris59 said:I have a long memory, thank you very much. He won his election based on a "21-point plan." Fast forward one year later, after he had achieved exactly 0 (zero) points out of those promised 21, he actually sat there and explained that the entire plan was nothing more than a fictional construct designed solely to win votes. He admitted, quite plainly, that he lied just to get elected! He accomplished absolutely nothing during his term, which is exactly why he lost.

The voters punished him for his dishonesty and sheer incompetence, and that is precisely why we are stuck with this current government and a President whom the voters have now handed a second term. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about which administration is truly better.

In the USA, elections are won by whoever is the bigger populist—essentially, whoever lies more effectively. We've seen it all, from Harmon's "get rich" rhetoric and Sanders's "we won't let the generals go" to Karamarko's patriotic digging in the dirt over in Kustošija.

And what about Zoko as Prime Minister? Look at the record: legalization, tax enforcement, pre-bankruptcy issues, flooding in Gunj, the migrant crisis, cutting congressional pensions, slashing politician salaries... You won't find anyone better in history.
nimblegull23 nimblegull23 Member
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Melissa Peterson19 said:In the USA, elections are won by whoever is the bigger populist—essentially, whoever lies more effectively. We've seen it all, from Harmon's "get rich" rhetoric and Sanders's "we won't let the generals go" to Karamarko's patriotic digging in the dirt over in Kustošija.

And what about Zoko as Prime Minister? Look at the record: legalization, tax enforcement, pre-bankruptcy issues, flooding in Gunj, the migrant crisis, cutting congressional pensions, slashing politician salaries... You won't find anyone better in history.

That whole mess with canceling those Swiss franc loans was handled poorly... but hey, at least it gave some desperate people a glimmer of hope. 👍
boldskipper2 boldskipper2 Newcomer
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Linda Harris59 said:All this rambling about Bush and the Republican Party in a thread about Biden only proves what a terrible leader he was. No matter how hard you try to smear the Republican administration, Biden's term was far worse. If it hadn't been, he would have easily won a second mandate.

I don't know why you're surprised. By claiming Biden was the worst president ever, you've basically dragged every other leader into this debate—and contrary to what you're implying, that doesn't actually prove anything about his performance.

Between the damage caused by Nixon's actions and the mess Donald Trump is making now (both in what he does and what he fails to do), I find it truly shameful and dishonest to claim that Biden was somehow the absolute worst.
You can certainly talk about Biden and his own flaws, but only after you've properly addressed and condemned the failures of those mentioned above.
Only then will you actually be worth reading.
Until then, you're just one of those people pointing fingers at Biden simply so the spotlight doesn't land on them.👎
Brenda Cook Brenda Cook Newcomer
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boldskipper2 said:I don't know why you're surprised. By claiming Biden was the worst president ever, you've basically dragged every other leader into this debate—and contrary to what you're implying, that doesn't actually prove anything about his performance.

Between the damage caused by Nixon's actions and the mess Donald Trump is making now (both in what he does and what he fails to do), I find it truly shameful and dishonest to claim that Biden was somehow the absolute worst.
You can certainly talk about Biden and his own flaws, but only after you've properly addressed and condemned the failures of those mentioned above.
Only then will you actually be worth reading.
Until then, you're just one of those people pointing fingers at Biden simply so the spotlight doesn't land on them.👎

Who is actually to blame here?

Is it their fault—those few thousand people—or does the responsibility lie with all 330 million of us?

The fundamental issue is that you can't fix thirty years of systemic corruption with a single four-year term. We Americans tend to demand instant solutions, but in our rush toward unrealistic promises, we just end up losing ground year after year.
I have no love for austerity measures or wage freezes, but I am willing to accept them if the intellectual elite—the doctors, professors, and government officials—are more aware of the necessity. They should, at the very least, be more reasonable than the common masses, yet their theories have only brought us to this current state, and they will surely continue to lead us further astray.

The brutal reality is that Americans don't even own 60 percent of the United States' total assets anymore, and that number is only going to drop.

So, what does any sane person do? They just gather their things and head straight to a dive bar to avoid having to witness or listen to that absolute disaster.

And children? Well, kids are always searching for a better way to do things. They often turn out to be even more intelligent—or perhaps just more enlightened—than those who came before them, and then, suddenly, everything just falls apart.

But how? And why exactly?🙂
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#39 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:It didn't last. He had fewer votes than the Republican Party during the EU elections in 2013 and 2014, plus the general elections in 2015 and 2016.

Joe only actually won the presidential election in 2019 after everything else.

Maybe you could pay a little closer attention to what I’m actually getting at here? My whole point is focused on the polling numbers the Democratic Party saw back when they were under his leadership.
Back in 2015, he was actually on pretty good terms with the Republican Party.

Linda Harris59 said:You claim to admire a man who calls politicians fascists without a shred of logic, plays supporter to Putin, and struts for the American public claiming he’ll block Sweden and Finland from joining NATO in the interest of the United States, only to tuck his tail and stay silent when it actually comes time to act. He’s arrogant, shallow, and ineffective. His only real talent is manipulating his own approval ratings because he knows the average American voter has a memory like a goldfish; he feels zero shame about constantly contradicting himself. He reminds me of Obama, who was his complete opposite in terms of grace and refinement, yet they both share the exact same obsession with popularity.

While he thought he could hold onto power at the head of the Democratic Party, he surrounded himself with yes-men and purged anyone competent just because he was terrified they might challenge his seat. In the end, after failing miserably as Prime Minister and tanking the party's numbers, he was forced out, leaving the organization in total shambles. Why? Because to secure his own position, he kicked out every single capable leader who could have succeeded him. The Democratic Party hasn't recovered since. Even today, we are still living through the wreckage caused by his destruction of the party.

Don't buy into that lie. He didn't have to step down or anything like that. It was his own call to stop running for party leader. Honestly, if he had decided to throw his hat in the ring one more time, I'm pretty sure he would have cruised to another victory.

I honestly don't know what to make of all this lately. It feels like every time I sit down to catch up on the news, there’s just another layer of chaos to peel back. It's a lot to process, especially when you're just trying to go about your day, grab a coffee, and stay out of the fray. Sometimes I find myself staring at my screen, wondering if anyone else is feeling this same sense of uncertainty, or if it's just me overthinking things. It's definitely a strange time to be watching everything unfold. I can't quite make sense of that. It looks like you might have missed part of your message or perhaps it didn't come through properly. If you were trying to share something specific or wanted my take on a particular topic, just let me know! I'm happy to chat once I know what's on your mind.
We could also throw in that 2013 referendum regarding the constitutional definition of marriage. Back then, he was out there fully backing the side that ended up losing.

That whole referendum only happened because of Biden—he flat-out refused to send the question over to the Supreme Court for a constitutionality review. Even though the United States was practically begging him to run it by them first. If he had just played by the rules and sent it up for review, they would have shut the whole thing down before it even started.
How many times are we really going to have to circle back to this exact same topic?

Linda Harris59 said:I have a long memory, thank you very much. He won his election based on a "21-point plan." Fast forward one year later, after he had achieved exactly 0 (zero) points out of those promised 21, he actually sat there and explained that the entire plan was nothing more than a fictional construct designed solely to win votes. He admitted, quite plainly, that he lied just to get elected! He accomplished absolutely nothing during his term, which is exactly why he lost.

The voters punished him for his dishonesty and sheer incompetence, and that is precisely why we are stuck with this current government and a President whom the voters have now handed a second term. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about which administration is truly better.

It feels like the Republican Prime Minister is landing a second term for the exact same reasons his predecessor did—it really just comes down to the fact that their voter base seems to have completely abandoned any sense of shame or moral compass. It’s a pretty wild situation when you look at how much influence party membership cards hold over here. It’s all about who you know, whether it’s family, close friends, or those inner circles of buddies. It’s definitely an interesting, if slightly messy, way to run things.
The simple reality is that the Republican Party saw its second-worst election turnout on record back in 2020. Even then, Trump managed to scrape together slightly more votes than they did in 2011—back when their former party leader and two-term Prime Minister was being chased around by half of the European Union’s police forces. Between that and the constant revolving door of shady characters cycling through headquarters on Fifth Avenue every single day, it really tells you everything you need to know about how "stable" this voter base actually is. Honestly, they aren't worth a single keystroke; they just deserve contempt.

So yeah, you hit the nail on the head—Biden's voter base punishes every single mistake, whereas Trump's voters couldn't care less about any errors, all the corruption, or the criminal scum we read about in the news every day. All they care about is keeping people like them in power so they can keep stealing from and destroying this country, feeling confident that someone else will eventually clean up their mess at our expense. It’s just a bunch of bottom-feeders, honestly—including that idiot who got caught stealing copper piping from a construction site. They’re about as bright as that guy I saw standing aimlessly at a stoplight because he couldn't figure out how to work a gas pump. And yet, that guy actually sits in the Cabinet.
For voters like that, they back Trump's crowd—not because they think these guys are better, but because they're just as bad themselves. Shameless and clueless.

nimblegull23 said:That whole mess with canceling those Swiss franc loans was handled poorly... but hey, at least it gave some desperate people a glimmer of hope. 👍

They actually implemented it and froze the exchange rate. That’s way more than these crooks have ever done for regular people. These guys just kiss the boots of the big banks and worry about which political crony gets to slide into which position.
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feralpilot0 said:Yeah, the speech was top-tier. 👍

You can actually see him drawing from reality—connecting the dots, as they say.

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