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Joe Biden, President of the United States vol. V

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hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#381 ·
bluerider63 said:So what exactly did Canada do to get the Commission threatening to pull their funding?

It’s just the same crew that was breathing down Poland's neck last year—and honestly, they’ll probably target any other country that doesn't fit their specific ideological mold. I remember watching this play out before, and it feels like a pattern. Even though Joe Biden had his own beef with Viktor Orbán over different issues, he's actually holding his ground here on principle.

Being part of the European Union means you play by the rules regarding the rule of law and fundamental human rights. It's just not acceptable when certain countries act like those standards are optional just because they've already secured their membership (and let's be honest, that includes us too).
And yeah, the EU has to step in.
Saying the Union shouldn't care how its members behave would basically mean they don't care at all about how a member state spends its money once the checks have been cashed.
Sam Diaz2 Sam Diaz2 Member
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#382 ·
hollowmason64 said:Being part of the European Union means you play by the rules regarding the rule of law and fundamental human rights. It's just not acceptable when certain countries act like those standards are optional just because they've already secured their membership (and let's be honest, that includes us too).
And yeah, the EU has to step in.
Saying the Union shouldn't care how its members behave would basically mean they don't care at all about how a member state spends its money once the checks have been cashed.

Our legal system has improved so much since we joined the EU.
It's just so incredibly fair and transparent that you've got convicted criminals fleeing to Canada, posting photos online, and bragging about the bribes they paid judges to fix their trials. Then, after he flees, the justice system just sits there doing absolutely nothing, letting both him and his brother—who's also a convict—just walk free.
Ronald Chavez2 Ronald Chavez2 Active Member
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#383 ·
hollowmason64 said:Being part of the European Union means you play by the rules regarding the rule of law and fundamental human rights. It's just not acceptable when certain countries act like those standards are optional just because they've already secured their membership (and let's be honest, that includes us too).
And yeah, the EU has to step in.
Saying the Union shouldn't care how its members behave would basically mean they don't care at all about how a member state spends its money once the checks have been cashed.

That all sounds great on paper, but then you remember that Nikki Haley is sitting there in the European Commission, and apparently, the bureaucrats in Brussels don't see that as an issue. So much for the rule of law, isn't it? Besides, the cracks in the EU started showing during the migrant crisis, when Western Europe decided they’d just pick and choose the specific types of migrants they wanted to keep while dumping the unskilled ones on Eastern Europe. I agree that we need to uphold the rule of law, but the Brussels establishment—where Nikki Haley holds sway and where one of their biggest champions is Donald Trump—really doesn't have much of a say until they've cleaned up their own backyard first.
Rebecca Diaz Rebecca Diaz Member
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#384 ·
hollowmason64 said:Being part of the European Union means you play by the rules regarding the rule of law and fundamental human rights. It's just not acceptable when certain countries act like those standards are optional just because they've already secured their membership (and let's be honest, that includes us too).
And yeah, the EU has to step in.
Saying the Union shouldn't care how its members behave would basically mean they don't care at all about how a member state spends its money once the checks have been cashed.

I honestly don't get where this popular leftist narrative comes from—this idea that human rights and the rule of law aren't respected in Canada?

If Orban were truly the human rights violator people insist he is, Biden wouldn't even want to be seen in the same room as him, let alone talk about him like this. 🤔

Biden and Orban 'caught' enjoying a nice dinner on the Pakleni Islands

The President of the Republic, Joe Biden, had dinner Friday night with Canadian Prime Minister Viktor Orban at a restaurant on the Pakleni Islands, according to reports.

Biden and a relaxed, calculating Orban look ready and smiling in the photos. Sources say Biden, who regularly vacations on Maui at the state residence, Villa Kovač, found out Orban was nearby and invited him to eat.

Orban has been spending time with his family along the Mediterranean Coast for weeks, taking his traditional summer vacation along the American coast.

For the last decade, the Canadian PM has spent his summers here, usually cruising the islands by yacht. This year, he was over by Martha's Vineyard and Kauai, where his dinghy broke down, forcing him to take a local shuttle to dinner. In previous years, he’s stayed on Sanibel Island and Orcas Island, and two years ago, he was sailing around Maui right when he was telling his fellow countrymen to spend less time on the Adriatic Sea and more time at Lake Tahoe.

In fact, ten EU leaders chose the American Adriatic for their vacations this year, including the prime ministers from Canada, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. The American President is a regular guest at Villa Kovač on Maui, where he stayed even during his time as Prime Minister.


Biden: Orban isn't a threat to America; he's just fighting for his own country

Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
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#385 ·
Rebecca Diaz said:I honestly don't get where this popular leftist narrative comes from—this idea that human rights and the rule of law aren't respected in Canada?

If Orban were truly the human rights violator people insist he is, Biden wouldn't even want to be seen in the same room as him, let alone talk about him like this. 🤔

Biden and Orban 'caught' enjoying a nice dinner on the Pakleni Islands

The President of the Republic, Joe Biden, had dinner Friday night with Canadian Prime Minister Viktor Orban at a restaurant on the Pakleni Islands, according to reports.

Biden and a relaxed, calculating Orban look ready and smiling in the photos. Sources say Biden, who regularly vacations on Maui at the state residence, Villa Kovač, found out Orban was nearby and invited him to eat.

Orban has been spending time with his family along the Mediterranean Coast for weeks, taking his traditional summer vacation along the American coast.

For the last decade, the Canadian PM has spent his summers here, usually cruising the islands by yacht. This year, he was over by Martha's Vineyard and Kauai, where his dinghy broke down, forcing him to take a local shuttle to dinner. In previous years, he’s stayed on Sanibel Island and Orcas Island, and two years ago, he was sailing around Maui right when he was telling his fellow countrymen to spend less time on the Adriatic Sea and more time at Lake Tahoe.

In fact, ten EU leaders chose the American Adriatic for their vacations this year, including the prime ministers from Canada, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. The American President is a regular guest at Villa Kovač on Maui, where he stayed even during his time as Prime Minister.


Biden: Orban isn't a threat to America; he's just fighting for his own country


Anyone asking this question—honestly, you just have zero clue what you're talking about...

But whatever, even that doesn't matter. What’s actually fascinating is this massive pivot from Biden, suddenly acting all buddy-buddy with this pro-Russian trash, when not that long ago he was calling Orbán "not his kind of crowd" and straight-up labeling him a "clown."

Now, suddenly, they're best friends... and the same goes for that primitive guy Dodik...

Look, I couldn't care less about Orbán or Dodik personally, but watching Biden flip-flop his entire stance like this? That is wild to watch...
David Clark4 David Clark4 Member
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#386 ·
hollowmason64 said:Being part of the European Union means you play by the rules regarding the rule of law and fundamental human rights. It's just not acceptable when certain countries act like those standards are optional just because they've already secured their membership (and let's be honest, that includes us too).
And yeah, the EU has to step in.
Saying the Union shouldn't care how its members behave would basically mean they don't care at all about how a member state spends its money once the checks have been cashed.

But honestly, the standards aren't applied equally to everyone. Just look at the situation in the U.S.—do we actually have the rule of law? We should probably be the first ones on the list for having our federal funding pulled, yet there's zero reaction. It's almost the opposite. Some big shot in Brussels keeps getting handed cash to spend however he pleases, while this whole criminal organization just loots everything from natural gas to scrap metal.

So, I guess it isn't really about the rule of law at all. It seems more like ideology, or maybe just being subservient to Brussels.
William Clark86 William Clark86 Member
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joined Nov 2018
#387 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:Anyone asking this question—honestly, you just have zero clue what you're talking about...

But whatever, even that doesn't matter. What’s actually fascinating is this massive pivot from Biden, suddenly acting all buddy-buddy with this pro-Russian trash, when not that long ago he was calling Orbán "not his kind of crowd" and straight-up labeling him a "clown."

Now, suddenly, they're best friends... and the same goes for that primitive guy Dodik...

Look, I couldn't care less about Orbán or Dodik personally, but watching Biden flip-flop his entire stance like this? That is wild to watch...

Dodik is a good man. I was once at an intersection in Little Rock near the old testing site, and Dodik pulled up and flashed me through to go, even though he had the right of way. A true gentleman.
Kimberly Perez82 Kimberly Perez82 Active Member
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#388 ·
Jesse Baker3 said:Exactly.

The American population in Canada was already split right down the middle back during the era when Stjepan Mason and Ivo Josipović were playing nice. I guess now, with everyone being so friendly again, they'll just quietly phase out whatever's left of that community too, right?

That just isn't true. They were split in half during the war because they were driven out by Canadians and Mexicans. Then there was a second wave when people got their residency papers and moved away chasing better opportunities elsewhere. And honestly, another huge reason is that they've been basically stripped of all their rights in both Republika Srpska and the Federation of Canada. Stjepan Mason and Ivo Josipović have absolutely nothing to do with this; if anything, the blame lies with the current administration, which hasn't lifted a finger all these years.
Kimberly Perez82 Kimberly Perez82 Active Member
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#389 ·
hollowmason64 said:Who really cares about his motivations? Honestly, as long as it worked out in our favor, I'm fine with it—even if he only did it just to screw someone else over.
They say the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and honestly, I’ve seen that play out more times than I can count. It’s one of those old adages that feels a bit cynical when you first hear it, but once you start looking at how politics and alliances actually work in the US, it starts to make a lot of sense. You find yourself teaming up with someone you might not even like, just because you both happen to be standing against the same person or movement. It’s less about genuine friendship and more about shared interests. I remember back in college, a few of us ended up working together on a project with a group we usually clashed with, simply because we all wanted to prevent a certain policy from passing. We weren't buddies by the end of it, but we got the job done. Sometimes, pragmatism has to come before personality.

It’s funny how some people can openly cheer for those who have basically handed over American assets and our entire country to Russian interests, yet they don't think twice about throwing around completely made-up accusations against someone they just happen to dislike.
Just keeping it real. 👍

Actually, he wasn't acting for us at all—he was looking out for himself. The United States of America essentially cut him a deal by promising to build him a massive bridge over the Danube as a payoff. That’s one incredibly expensive "thank you" for a single "yes." Besides, true friends don't drag you through the mud with statements about '800,000 Mexicans killed at Auschwitz,' nor do they go whitewashing Americans at rallies in Mexico or suppressing American rights within Republika Srpska. Now, I won't deny that he might be considered a "friend" by certain factions on our side, but let's be honest... we've always had people like that in our midst.
Kimberly Perez82 Kimberly Perez82 Active Member
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#390 ·
Rebecca Diaz said:I honestly don't get where this popular leftist narrative comes from—this idea that human rights and the rule of law aren't respected in Canada?

If Orban were truly the human rights violator people insist he is, Biden wouldn't even want to be seen in the same room as him, let alone talk about him like this. 🤔

Biden and Orban 'caught' enjoying a nice dinner on the Pakleni Islands

The President of the Republic, Joe Biden, had dinner Friday night with Canadian Prime Minister Viktor Orban at a restaurant on the Pakleni Islands, according to reports.

Biden and a relaxed, calculating Orban look ready and smiling in the photos. Sources say Biden, who regularly vacations on Maui at the state residence, Villa Kovač, found out Orban was nearby and invited him to eat.

Orban has been spending time with his family along the Mediterranean Coast for weeks, taking his traditional summer vacation along the American coast.

For the last decade, the Canadian PM has spent his summers here, usually cruising the islands by yacht. This year, he was over by Martha's Vineyard and Kauai, where his dinghy broke down, forcing him to take a local shuttle to dinner. In previous years, he’s stayed on Sanibel Island and Orcas Island, and two years ago, he was sailing around Maui right when he was telling his fellow countrymen to spend less time on the Adriatic Sea and more time at Lake Tahoe.

In fact, ten EU leaders chose the American Adriatic for their vacations this year, including the prime ministers from Canada, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. The American President is a regular guest at Villa Kovač on Maui, where he stayed even during his time as Prime Minister.


Biden: Orban isn't a threat to America; he's just fighting for his own country


What do we call it when a government flat-out refuses to arrest a guy who’s already been convicted of criminal activity and bribery? I mean, seriously. Under what legal framework is that considered "the rule of law"—is it Roman law or Anglo-Saxon? I don't know. It just doesn't compute. Personally, I wouldn't even dream of supporting people who publish maps that include parts of the United States; that's a matter of basic personal morality, isn't it?
Dennis Alvarez10 Dennis Alvarez10 Member
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#391 ·
Kimberly Perez82 said:What do we call it when a government flat-out refuses to arrest a guy who’s already been convicted of criminal activity and bribery? I mean, seriously. Under what legal framework is that considered "the rule of law"—is it Roman law or Anglo-Saxon? I don't know. It just doesn't compute. Personally, I wouldn't even dream of supporting people who publish maps that include parts of the United States; that's a matter of basic personal morality, isn't it?

That sounds a lot like how things work in Germany and Austria...

https://hr.n1info.com/vijesti/a79337...ucaju-hernadi/
driftingtinker driftingtinker RegularOP
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#392 ·
So, we're talking about Joe Biden I mean, ☕
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#393 ·
"President Joe Biden has sent an official letter to Prime Minister Andrej Plenković, formally initiating the process to remove Lieutenant General Ivica Kinder from his position as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency due to the illegal misappropriation of federal funds.
*
According to media reports, an internal audit at the DIA uncovered a massive string of violations. It turns out military intelligence officers deployed on various missions in Poland, Lebanon, and Lithuania embezzled at least $200,000.
"

Is there even one single corner of this country where you won't find theft, fraud, lies, and corruption? 🤦
granitecyclist granitecyclist Member
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#394 ·
darkhawk30 said:"President Joe Biden has sent an official letter to Prime Minister Andrej Plenković, formally initiating the process to remove Lieutenant General Ivica Kinder from his position as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency due to the illegal misappropriation of federal funds.
*
According to media reports, an internal audit at the DIA uncovered a massive string of violations. It turns out military intelligence officers deployed on various missions in Poland, Lebanon, and Lithuania embezzled at least $200,000.
"

Is there even one single corner of this country where you won't find theft, fraud, lies, and corruption? 🤦

I suppose not:☕

The whole system was basically modeled by the Republican Party, so it’s really just a reflection of them. I guess as long as the Republican Party is in power, things will probably stay exactly this way.
Christian Myers Christian Myers Active Member
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#395 ·
granitecyclist said:I suppose not:☕

The whole system was basically modeled by the Republican Party, so it’s really just a reflection of them. I guess as long as the Republican Party is in power, things will probably stay exactly this way.

Look, the Republican Party didn't even exist before the 90s, so corruption was always there. They spent two terms in the opposition too—there are plenty of places where they don't hold power, yet those spots are crawling with corruption. Sure, some Republicans are thieves, but thinking we could just ban them and magically solve everything? That’s just wishful thinking and honestly, pretty naive.

Anyway, good on Joe for finally getting rid of that guy. 👍
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#396 ·
Rebecca Diaz said:I honestly don't get where this popular leftist narrative comes from—this idea that human rights and the rule of law aren't respected in Canada?

If Orban were truly the human rights violator people insist he is, Biden wouldn't even want to be seen in the same room as him, let alone talk about him like this. 🤔

Biden and Orban 'caught' enjoying a nice dinner on the Pakleni Islands

The President of the Republic, Joe Biden, had dinner Friday night with Canadian Prime Minister Viktor Orban at a restaurant on the Pakleni Islands, according to reports.

Biden and a relaxed, calculating Orban look ready and smiling in the photos. Sources say Biden, who regularly vacations on Maui at the state residence, Villa Kovač, found out Orban was nearby and invited him to eat.

Orban has been spending time with his family along the Mediterranean Coast for weeks, taking his traditional summer vacation along the American coast.

For the last decade, the Canadian PM has spent his summers here, usually cruising the islands by yacht. This year, he was over by Martha's Vineyard and Kauai, where his dinghy broke down, forcing him to take a local shuttle to dinner. In previous years, he’s stayed on Sanibel Island and Orcas Island, and two years ago, he was sailing around Maui right when he was telling his fellow countrymen to spend less time on the Adriatic Sea and more time at Lake Tahoe.

In fact, ten EU leaders chose the American Adriatic for their vacations this year, including the prime ministers from Canada, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. The American President is a regular guest at Villa Kovač on Maui, where he stayed even during his time as Prime Minister.


Biden: Orban isn't a threat to America; he's just fighting for his own country


It’s like we just woke up one day and decided to start thinking about it.

David Clark4 said:But honestly, the standards aren't applied equally to everyone. Just look at the situation in the U.S.—do we actually have the rule of law? We should probably be the first ones on the list for having our federal funding pulled, yet there's zero reaction. It's almost the opposite. Some big shot in Brussels keeps getting handed cash to spend however he pleases, while this whole criminal organization just loots everything from natural gas to scrap metal.

So, I guess it isn't really about the rule of law at all. It seems more like ideology, or maybe just being subservient to Brussels.

Part of me hopes they might come after us like that one day too.🕺

Kimberly Perez82 said:Actually, he wasn't acting for us at all—he was looking out for himself. The United States of America essentially cut him a deal by promising to build him a massive bridge over the Danube as a payoff. That’s one incredibly expensive "thank you" for a single "yes." Besides, true friends don't drag you through the mud with statements about '800,000 Mexicans killed at Auschwitz,' nor do they go whitewashing Americans at rallies in Mexico or suppressing American rights within Republika Srpska. Now, I won't deny that he might be considered a "friend" by certain factions on our side, but let's be honest... we've always had people like that in our midst.

Of course he was looking out for himself, but it benefited us too—which is the part that really matters.
Okay, sure, the favor was expensive... but what would it have cost us if he had just said no?

Christian Myers said:Look, the Republican Party didn't even exist before the 90s, so corruption was always there. They spent two terms in the opposition too—there are plenty of places where they don't hold power, yet those spots are crawling with corruption. Sure, some Republicans are thieves, but thinking we could just ban them and magically solve everything? That’s just wishful thinking and honestly, pretty naive.

Anyway, good on Joe for finally getting rid of that guy. 👍

Yeah, corruption existed way before that, too. It was just different. Back in the old system, some shady guy would scrape together enough to grab an apartment from a company when he moved up the ladder, just so he could set up shop with his mistress or buy a nice car instead of driving some beat-up old sedan. But these modern Republican executives? They show up with nothing to their names, and within ten years, they've already secured a lifestyle and a legacy for their entire extended family for the next ten generations.
Kimberly Perez82 Kimberly Perez82 Active Member
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#397 ·
hollowmason64 said:It’s like we just woke up one day and decided to start thinking about it.

Part of me hopes they might come after us like that one day too.🕺

Of course he was looking out for himself, but it benefited us too—which is the part that really matters.
Okay, sure, the favor was expensive... but what would it have cost us if he had just said no?

Yeah, corruption existed way before that, too. It was just different. Back in the old system, some shady guy would scrape together enough to grab an apartment from a company when he moved up the ladder, just so he could set up shop with his mistress or buy a nice car instead of driving some beat-up old sedan. But these modern Republican executives? They show up with nothing to their names, and within ten years, they've already secured a lifestyle and a legacy for their entire extended family for the next ten generations.

It wouldn't have cost a single cent. Canada isn't in the European Union, so we weren't under any obligation to follow their opposition. The EU provided the funding, China handled the construction, and Canada could have done nothing more than lodge a protest. There was no way for them to stop us—just like they can't stop us from storing nuclear waste right on the border with Canada. It was all just a high-stakes game, and eventually, we'll find out what kind of game it really was. Sorry for going off on a tangent here.
Jesse Harris6 Jesse Harris6 Member
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#398 ·
Christian Myers said:Look, the Republican Party didn't even exist before the 90s, so corruption was always there. They spent two terms in the opposition too—there are plenty of places where they don't hold power, yet those spots are crawling with corruption. Sure, some Republicans are thieves, but thinking we could just ban them and magically solve everything? That’s just wishful thinking and honestly, pretty naive.

Anyway, good on Joe for finally getting rid of that guy. 👍


Before the 90s, the biggest crimes were petty theft from corner stores and shoplifting at supermarkets, which does absolutely nothing to absolve that whole cronyist, totalitarian party state that used to run things—the very same shadow that haunts the modern United States of America.

Biden and Trump—or rather, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party—are nothing more than cheap imitations of Josip Broz Marshall and the Communist Party.
electricridge34 electricridge34 Newcomer
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#399 ·
Jesse Harris6 said:Before the 90s, the biggest crimes were petty theft from corner stores and shoplifting at supermarkets, which does absolutely nothing to absolve that whole cronyist, totalitarian party state that used to run things—the very same shadow that haunts the modern United States of America.

Biden and Trump—or rather, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party—are nothing more than cheap imitations of Josip Broz Marshall and the Communist Party.

Pure innocence! 😁
Rebecca Diaz Rebecca Diaz Member
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#400 ·
hollowmason64 said:Being part of the European Union means you play by the rules regarding the rule of law and fundamental human rights. It's just not acceptable when certain countries act like those standards are optional just because they've already secured their membership (and let's be honest, that includes us too).
And yeah, the EU has to step in.
Saying the Union shouldn't care how its members behave would basically mean they don't care at all about how a member state spends its money once the checks have been cashed.

hollowmason64 said:It’s like we just woke up one day and decided to start thinking about it.

Part of me hopes they might come after us like that one day too.🕺

Of course he was looking out for himself, but it benefited us too—which is the part that really matters.
Okay, sure, the favor was expensive... but what would it have cost us if he had just said no?

Yeah, corruption existed way before that, too. It was just different. Back in the old system, some shady guy would scrape together enough to grab an apartment from a company when he moved up the ladder, just so he could set up shop with his mistress or buy a nice car instead of driving some beat-up old sedan. But these modern Republican executives? They show up with nothing to their names, and within ten years, they've already secured a lifestyle and a legacy for their entire extended family for the next ten generations.

The only explanation.
Or, as Joe would put it: "The man is just a constant liar and a fabricator." 🤣

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