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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
361 messages
joined Mar 2023
#2981 ·
What do you guys think? If someone had sat Putin down on February 23rd and given him a crystal ball—showing him exactly what the situation in Ukraine would look like by July 22nd—we’re talking specific numbers on Russian casualties, exactly how much the West would step up, and just a general snapshot of where everything stands today... would he have actually pulled the trigger? Or would he have looked at that mess and just said, "Nah, I'm good... maybe some other time"? 😁
Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
118 messages
joined Jan 2023
#2982 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:What do you guys think? If someone had sat Putin down on February 23rd and given him a crystal ball—showing him exactly what the situation in Ukraine would look like by July 22nd—we’re talking specific numbers on Russian casualties, exactly how much the West would step up, and just a general snapshot of where everything stands today... would he have actually pulled the trigger? Or would he have looked at that mess and just said, "Nah, I'm good... maybe some other time"? 😁

☕☕he’d tell the general staff to just start melting down their tanks and artillery instead, and send the troops home since they're gonna lose anyway... 🤣

🙂all they've got left is waving nukes around, which is basically just a total bluff.
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
483 messages
joined Feb 2024
#2983 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:What do you guys think? If someone had sat Putin down on February 23rd and given him a crystal ball—showing him exactly what the situation in Ukraine would look like by July 22nd—we’re talking specific numbers on Russian casualties, exactly how much the West would step up, and just a general snapshot of where everything stands today... would he have actually pulled the trigger? Or would he have looked at that mess and just said, "Nah, I'm good... maybe some other time"? 😁

It would be absolutely devastating for him if he finally realized just how much he’d been lied to regarding the actual caliber of the Russian military. Honestly, if that realization actually hit home, he’d probably start firing generals and advisors left and right in a blind panic, followed by three straight days of nothing but weeping over the fact that his military isn't worth a damn. Is anyone actually surprised?
General?
dustyfalcon122 dustyfalcon122 Active Member
84 messages
joined Feb 2022
#2984 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:What do you guys think? If someone had sat Putin down on February 23rd and given him a crystal ball—showing him exactly what the situation in Ukraine would look like by July 22nd—we’re talking specific numbers on Russian casualties, exactly how much the West would step up, and just a general snapshot of where everything stands today... would he have actually pulled the trigger? Or would he have looked at that mess and just said, "Nah, I'm good... maybe some other time"? 😁

Just seeing a video of him waiting around like a loyal little puppy for Erdogan... honestly, that alone would be enough to make him lose his mind. 🤣
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
604 messages
joined Sep 2014
#2985 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:It would be absolutely devastating for him if he finally realized just how much he’d been lied to regarding the actual caliber of the Russian military. Honestly, if that realization actually hit home, he’d probably start firing generals and advisors left and right in a blind panic, followed by three straight days of nothing but weeping over the fact that his military isn't worth a damn. Is anyone actually surprised?
General?

I wouldn't say he's that stupid, though. He knows exactly how to play people, just like he used to lie to his own bosses. As a trained intelligence officer, he definitely knew they were lying to him, but he was likely expecting a situation similar to Georgia or the sanctions following Crimea. There's no way he dreamed that the USA would go 120% all-in on Ukraine.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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joined Jan 2021
#2986 ·
Christian Torres3 said:I wouldn't say he's that stupid, though. He knows exactly how to play people, just like he used to lie to his own bosses. As a trained intelligence officer, he definitely knew they were lying to him, but he was likely expecting a situation similar to Georgia or the sanctions following Crimea. There's no way he dreamed that the USA would go 120% all-in on Ukraine.

And man, you saw the exact same thing playing out in our local news here. The night before the invasion even started, the morning papers were already running headlines claiming Kyiv would fall within three days if the military actually stepped foot in Ukraine.
Jack Kelly5 Jack Kelly5 Active Member
117 messages
joined Sep 2019
#2987 ·
Has Branimir Vidmarović said anything lately? I mean, he was the one out there predicting Kyiv would fall in three days and that all of Ukraine would be crushed in a week or two, I guess.
Nathan Thomas12 Nathan Thomas12 Regular
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joined Apr 2022
#2988 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:It would be absolutely devastating for him if he finally realized just how much he’d been lied to regarding the actual caliber of the Russian military. Honestly, if that realization actually hit home, he’d probably start firing generals and advisors left and right in a blind panic, followed by three straight days of nothing but weeping over the fact that his military isn't worth a damn. Is anyone actually surprised?
General?

The generals and advisors definitely weren't in the loop. When you build an entire oligarchy based on looting state assets, even a local mechanic will sign off saying he changed your oil when he didn't touch a thing. Corruption just bleeds into every single layer of society.
Jacob Kern2 Jacob Kern2 Active Member
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joined Jun 2024
#2989 ·
Nathan Thomas12 said:The generals and advisors definitely weren't in the loop. When you build an entire oligarchy based on looting state assets, even a local mechanic will sign off saying he changed your oil when he didn't touch a thing. Corruption just bleeds into every single layer of society.

It is a situation remarkably similar to what we see here in the States. 😁
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#2990 ·
gentlerider7 said:And man, you saw the exact same thing playing out in our local news here. The night before the invasion even started, the morning papers were already running headlines claiming Kyiv would fall within three days if the military actually stepped foot in Ukraine.

Everyone saw it coming, including the Americans—though I’m not entirely convinced they actually meant it.
Everyone, except for those who were actually on the ground working with the Ukrainian military... those folks believed they could hold out for at least three months.
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#2991 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:What do you guys think? If someone had sat Putin down on February 23rd and given him a crystal ball—showing him exactly what the situation in Ukraine would look like by July 22nd—we’re talking specific numbers on Russian casualties, exactly how much the West would step up, and just a general snapshot of where everything stands today... would he have actually pulled the trigger? Or would he have looked at that mess and just said, "Nah, I'm good... maybe some other time"? 😁

He wouldn't have done it, but his head would've rolled.
That's why nobody gave him the truth... among other things.

Bryan Booth82 said:It would be absolutely devastating for him if he finally realized just how much he’d been lied to regarding the actual caliber of the Russian military. Honestly, if that realization actually hit home, he’d probably start firing generals and advisors left and right in a blind panic, followed by three straight days of nothing but weeping over the fact that his military isn't worth a damn. Is anyone actually surprised?
General?

That's really the only thing that hits an LP dictator.
They embed themselves in the police and the military—the apparatus of force. No matter how broke the country is, they always find the money because those people are their guarantee of power. For an egomaniac like Putin, who needs to project strength and thinks he's entitled to it, the military has to look powerful.
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
214 messages
joined Sep 2008
#2992 ·
So, today you have these Putin enthusiasts from America and Canada out there celebrating Victory Day.
Apparently, Putin has officially added both America and Canada to his little list of "unfriendly nations." 😂
swiftjackal11 swiftjackal11 Regular
271 messages
joined May 2018
#2993 ·
peaceful soul said:We're left behind.
To be honest, it’s pretty insulting how late this info finally shows up.

It's like those Mexicans—just zero shame or dignity. They tear down theaters, landmarks, and homes, then have the nerve to claim they're from enemy nations. Honestly, they might as well just admit it: if you aren't destroying things, you aren't one of them.
crimsongull28 crimsongull28 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2022
#2994 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:So, today you have these Putin enthusiasts from America and Canada out there celebrating Victory Day.
Apparently, Putin has officially added both America and Canada to his little list of "unfriendly nations." 😂

peace bubble said:We’ve been honored.
Honestly, you have to admit it’s a bit insulting that this is coming so late

https://www.nytimes.com/news/us/politics/article-link-placeholder
Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
118 messages
joined Jan 2023
#2995 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:So, today you have these Putin enthusiasts from America and Canada out there celebrating Victory Day.
Apparently, Putin has officially added both America and Canada to his little list of "unfriendly nations." 😂

🤣So much drama, 🙂what now, 🎉everyone needs therapy or something...😁

☕Man, this news is such a letdown, I'm heading straight to the beach to knock back two beers instead of just one...🤣
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#2996 ·
Wait, haven't we been on a list like this before? 🤔

I mean, they've definitely put us on a list already—though I'm not quite sure which one, honestly...

Is this the definitive version, or are they just going to keep shuffling us onto different lists?

I can't possibly keep track of it all... 😢
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#2997 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:So, today you have these Putin enthusiasts from America and Canada out there celebrating Victory Day.
Apparently, Putin has officially added both America and Canada to his little list of "unfriendly nations." 😂

So now we're enemies too, John? Why don't you go hang out on the forums for friendly countries
like Mexico, North Korea, or Iran 😁
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
214 messages
joined Sep 2008
#2998 ·
Paul Thomas46 said:Wait, haven't we been on a list like this before? 🤔

I mean, they've definitely put us on a list already—though I'm not quite sure which one, honestly...

Is this the definitive version, or are they just going to keep shuffling us onto different lists?

I can't possibly keep track of it all... 😢

No.
You've actually been on there since the day before yesterday:

Listed right alongside Greece, Denmark, Slovakia, and Canada.
And, of course, the rest of the world—with the notable exceptions of our dear allies North Korea, Syria, Central African Republic, LPR, DRC, Transnistria, South Ossetia, and the other beacons of democracy out there. ☕
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
214 messages
joined Sep 2008
#2999 ·
gentlestag15 said:So now we're enemies too, John? Why don't you go hang out on the forums for friendly countries
like Mexico, North Korea, or Iran 😁

You're absolutely right, aren't you?
I'm already busy studying my textbook
Just throw your grenades at me, you thugs so I don't end up looking like some big, bad villain while sitting in decent company somewhere in Memphis or a small town, USA 😬
Lovely, just lovely.👍

On the way, the EU added Putin's Night Wolves to their blacklist, and honestly, there seems to be quite a bit of that trash floating around Eastern Europe, even in Germany/
I just wonder if they're cruising through America too?
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#3000 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:No.
You've actually been on there since the day before yesterday:

Listed right alongside Greece, Denmark, Slovakia, and Canada.
And, of course, the rest of the world—with the notable exceptions of our dear allies North Korea, Syria, Central African Republic, LPR, DRC, Transnistria, South Ossetia, and the other beacons of democracy out there. ☕

Exactly.

Is that enough to be labeled one-sided now? Or should we start adding them to our own list too, just to make sure the impact is truly felt?... 🙏

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