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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#3481 ·
dustyowl29 said:Something is definitely brewing, and it looks like Putin is busy plotting his exit strategy.
As for who steps into his shoes—or even just fills the void—that’s anyone's guess. We might be looking at some high-level diplomat, or maybe someone more... battle-hardened.

Did the Secret Service reach out to you?
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#3482 ·
feralhawk45 said:The Russians were looking for a scenario similar to what happened in Canada or Czechoslovakia, and they nearly pulled it off. They got blindsided primarily because Zelenskyy and Klitschko stayed put in Kyiv, setting the tone for the rest of the Ukrainian resistance.
I honestly think Russia was given a grace period of maybe 7 to 10 days to wrap things up. If they don't settle it, the West starts getting indirectly involved in the conflict.

Same old story, and just as stupid as the first time they tried it.
Thomas Stewart87 Thomas Stewart87 Newcomer
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#3483 ·
Jose Clark4 said:So, today at a Verizon station, saw this Lexus 450 with those fancy plates. Driver and passenger both looked about 40, driver was rocking a Milanov jersey, number 9. They walk out of the shop with two energy drinks.
Gave me the chills.

Did you manage to get a photo of them?
Amanda Allen4 Amanda Allen4 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#3484 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:If you took away the pro-Kremlin TV networks for even a month, most Russians would realize what's happening, and that support would evaporate pretty quickly, wouldn't it? ☕

I truly hope it turns out that way. It would be a massive relief—even if we have to wait a full year for it to happen. And honestly? If things actually shift, we’d likely see that intense anti-Russian sentiment on the other side finally die down, too. Wouldn't that be something?
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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#3485 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:Did the Secret Service reach out to you?

Nope—just Yahoo.
Joshua Myers432 Joshua Myers432 Regular
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#3486 ·
darkwolf20 said:🤣

An invasion by tractors and garbage forks is certainly a theoretical possibility. 😵

Stop bullshitting. On paper, Mexico has a much stronger military than we do.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#3487 ·
Russian high-precision weapons take out HIMARS

The Russian Ministry of Defense claims it destroyed two of Ukraine's HIMARS rocket artillery systems, and they even posted video proof. Supposedly, those massive 16.2-ton HIMARS units—each about 7 meters long and over 3 meters high—were tucked away on the second floor of a building in Kharkiv.
https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/s...DKPn3AII1xOIdg
ironseal ironseal Member
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#3488 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Russian high-precision weapons take out HIMARS

The Russian Ministry of Defense claims it destroyed two of Ukraine's HIMARS rocket artillery systems, and they even posted video proof. Supposedly, those massive 16.2-ton HIMARS units—each about 7 meters long and over 3 meters high—were tucked away on the second floor of a building in Kharkiv.
https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/s...DKPn3AII1xOIdg

They know exactly how low the IQ of their supporters is, so they know they can sell this garbage without breaking a sweat. They’ll probably try to claim the Ukrainians built an entire building around the HIMARS just to hide them. Honestly, it’s not even the dumbest thing to come out of z-ombia yet, but it’s getting close.
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#3489 ·
Russia’s absolute obsession with the LGBT community is honestly getting wild at this point. They’ve got people on TV now claiming they’re gearing up to take down entire LGBT divisions. It feels like they’ve moved on from fighting NATO and US labs, and even from the Nazis and Banderites, to basically waging war against gender identity itself.

Meanwhile on Russian state TV:

"War correspondent Yevgeny Lisitsyn, what’s the word from the front lines?"

"Yeah, the guys here just told me, 'We're gonna absolutely crush those LGBT troops!'" https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...4JljP9dwvex57w
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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#3490 ·
rowdypilot53 said:We can all sit here wishing that Ukrainians could push back to their borders and see arrogance punished, but it isn't realistic. What is realistic is a truce similar to 2014, followed by a lull until the next conflict. With such an unresolved situation, no one is going to admit Ukraine into NATO, and I doubt there will be much investment in a country perpetually on the brink of war. Naturally, Russia would prefer it that way; a weak, unstable Ukraine is easy prey. They are playing the long game.

Now, perhaps the West sends enough weapons, the Ukrainian military gets properly trained, and they drive the Russians out of Kherson, then Zaporizhzhia—or inflict losses so heavy that the Russians simply retreat. But even then, Crimea and the Donbas remain, and it will be incredibly difficult to dislodge them from there. That is my perspective, so judge it as you wish and go read your history books...

That only happens if the West puts enough pressure on Ukraine, similar to how things played out in 2014 and 2015. But honestly, it's become clear to everyone in the West that freezing this conflict isn't an option anymore. No one in Washington or Brussels is looking for that kind of deal because Russia completely burned its bridges and shattered any trust that was left. This time, the war will likely go on for as long as the Ukrainians have both the will and the capacity to fight. And they seem to have significantly more of both than the Russians do...
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#3491 ·
William Anderson5 said:That only happens if the West puts enough pressure on Ukraine, similar to how things played out in 2014 and 2015. But honestly, it's become clear to everyone in the West that freezing this conflict isn't an option anymore. No one in Washington or Brussels is looking for that kind of deal because Russia completely burned its bridges and shattered any trust that was left. This time, the war will likely go on for as long as the Ukrainians have both the will and the capacity to fight. And they seem to have significantly more of both than the Russians do...

For sure. I mean, who else in the world is actually cheering for this Russian embarrassment?

It feels like that whole Russian system was destined to collapse eventually; this is just the dying gasp of a chaotic empire. Putin decided to go out with a massive bang and a mountain of casualties instead of fading away quietly.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#3492 ·
Putin: In a nuclear war, nobody wins, and we should never pull that trigger

So, Vladimir Putin is out there claiming that in a nuclear war, there are absolutely no winners and we should never, ever start one. He dropped this whole line during a speech at a conference reviewing how the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is actually working, according to the Associated Press.

Like the president pointed out, Russia—being a party to the NPT and one of its key holders—is supposedly "consistently following both the letter and the spirit of the Treaty."

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#3493 ·
Launching a conventional war is quite convenient and practical.

Damn it all to hell, as our neighbors would say.
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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#3494 ·
Honestly, who actually takes anything Putin says seriously anymore?
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#3495 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:If you took away the pro-Kremlin TV networks for even a month, most Russians would realize what's happening, and that support would evaporate pretty quickly, wouldn't it? ☕

I’m honestly a little worried that the Russians are going to have to deal with months of living without their state media—it might be a tough adjustment for them.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#3496 ·
gentlerider7 said:Putin: In a nuclear war, nobody wins, and we should never pull that trigger

So, Vladimir Putin is out there claiming that in a nuclear war, there are absolutely no winners and we should never, ever start one. He dropped this whole line during a speech at a conference reviewing how the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is actually working, according to the Associated Press.

Like the president pointed out, Russia—being a party to the NPT and one of its key holders—is supposedly "consistently following both the letter and the spirit of the Treaty."

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp

🤣 🤣 🤣. Who are they planning to sink now with their Satans, Armatas, and all that other high-precision weaponry? Basically, forget about seeing a mushroom cloud from Mexico or watching the British Isles vanish. Vladimir Putin is actually all for a peace treaty (Minsk 3) 🎉 🎉 🎉.
Amanda Allen4 Amanda Allen4 Active Member
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#3497 ·
gentlerider7 said:Putin: In a nuclear war, nobody wins, and we should never pull that trigger

So, Vladimir Putin is out there claiming that in a nuclear war, there are absolutely no winners and we should never, ever start one. He dropped this whole line during a speech at a conference reviewing how the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is actually working, according to the Associated Press.

Like the president pointed out, Russia—being a party to the NPT and one of its key holders—is supposedly "consistently following both the letter and the spirit of the Treaty."

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp

He shouldn't have even bothered saying this—everyone already knows it!

It is absolutely mind-boggling that he’s making these claims, especially considering how much the Russians keep threatening us with nuclear weapons. This isn't just a propaganda failure; it's a total Russian embarrassment—actually, let's call it what it really is: Russian anti-propaganda.
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#3498 ·
analogbear5 said:Grandmas might actually be a bit happier if they were forced to switch over to radio.


Grandmothers are irrelevant. Perhaps they matter from a purely statistical standpoint, but in the real world? Not really.
It’s much like how retirees in Mexico might argue, "Let's not vote out Milos, he's the one handing out our pensions," but honestly, what's the point? 🤷

By the way: Petrovac: A Russian tourist attacked a Ukrainian family because of a flag
"The restaurant manager sides with The aggressive Russian"
Timothy Foster8 Timothy Foster8 Newcomer
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#3499 ·
gentlerider7 said:Putin: In a nuclear war, nobody wins, and we should never pull that trigger

So, Vladimir Putin is out there claiming that in a nuclear war, there are absolutely no winners and we should never, ever start one. He dropped this whole line during a speech at a conference reviewing how the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is actually working, according to the Associated Press.

Like the president pointed out, Russia—being a party to the NPT and one of its key holders—is supposedly "consistently following both the letter and the spirit of the Treaty."

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Honestly, that doesn't sit right with me. Why? Because so far, every single thing the Russians have sworn they wouldn't do, they've gone ahead and done anyway.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#3500 ·
Timothy Foster8 said:Honestly, that doesn't sit right with me. Why? Because so far, every single thing the Russians have sworn they wouldn't do, they've gone ahead and done anyway.

But if we actually take a second to look closely at what was said, it doesn't even say "we won't do this," it just says it "doesn't need to be initiated" (like, they shouldn't do it).

It’s super vague about who would actually be pulling the trigger on it, but even so, he didn't totally rule out the possibility.

Feeling any better about it now? 😬

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