Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Jessica Peterson2 said:The catch, of course, is that Belarus is currently absolutely swamped with Russian troops and military hardware.
P.S. I suppose it won't take long for Putin's propagandists to spin a tale about how the Belarusians have turned into monsters even worse than the Ukrainians. 🤦

That was the situation back before the Russians pulled out of the Kyiv direction. Now, there just isn't that much of a Russian force stationed over there anymore.
Look, as long as Lukica is running the show, there’s zero chance we're actually breaking ties with Mother Russia.
But honestly, once he's finally out of the picture, we could be looking at a total repeat of the Ukraine scenario.

Gerald Torres84 said:I have this lingering feeling that the people in Belarus are practically counting down the days until they can finally be rid of Alexander Lukashenko. And once he's gone, they will likely begin a gradual shift toward the West, much like the Ukrainians have done.

Did you seriously just gloss over those massive protests in Belarus from a year or two back? You know, the ones where they absolutely crushed the demonstrations with force?
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https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status...87883069652994

The Russian "denazifier"...

Russia has issued threats against Lithuania following the decision to block freight rail traffic between mainland Russia and the Kaliningrad enclave.
In a statement released by the Russian Ministry of Defense, they claimed they are fully prepared to take whatever steps are necessary to safeguard their national interests.

Lithuania has been in NATO for 18 years now—if Putin actually decides to start sending troops there, we’ll finally see if NATO is a real military alliance or just a glorified social club for a few specific countries..

Honestly, I don't see any real logic behind Lithuania's move... it feels like an escalation for the sake of escalating. The strategic importance of that enclave is practically nonexistent when you look at the bigger picture.

Andrew Booth29 said:Honestly, I don't see any real logic behind Lithuania's move... it feels like an escalation for the sake of escalating. The strategic importance of that enclave is practically nonexistent when you look at the bigger picture.

I'm inclined to agree.

Kazakhstan has gone ahead and joined the party with the sanctions and the fight against Russian expansionism...

I honestly don't see the point in beating a dead horse here—it’s just handing Russian propaganda a massive victory on a silver platter. If there was anyone left in Russia who had even a shred of doubt regarding Putin's claims about NATO encircling them, they won't have those doubts anymore. This is a total fail, imho.

Andrew Booth29 said:Honestly, I don't see any real logic behind Lithuania's move... it feels like an escalation for the sake of escalating. The strategic importance of that enclave is practically nonexistent when you look at the bigger picture.

Who knows what the USA whispered in their ear.

We’ve been letting Putin off the hook since 2014, and frankly, it's way too much. He’s personally responsible for the deaths of probably over 100,000 soldiers and civilians in this frantic, misguided "liberation" of Ukraine from Nazis.
He deserves either a death sentence by hanging or ten consecutive life terms—nothing less. And don't even get me started on the economic fallout; the material damage he’s inflicted on Ukraine and the rest of the world can be measured in hundreds of billions of dollars...

The guy is a total savage—you can't give him an inch.

dustyowl29 said:Kazakhstan has gone ahead and joined the party with the sanctions and the fight against Russian expansionism...

That’s just not the same thing. We are talking about Russian territory being symbolically encircled here. Under these conditions, Putin can ride that momentum as far as he wants to go.

dustyowl29 said:We’ve been letting Putin off the hook since 2014, and frankly, it's way too much. He’s personally responsible for the deaths of probably over 100,000 soldiers and civilians in this frantic, misguided "liberation" of Ukraine from Nazis.
He deserves either a death sentence by hanging or ten consecutive life terms—nothing less. And don't even get me started on the economic fallout; the material damage he’s inflicted on Ukraine and the rest of the world can be measured in hundreds of billions of dollars...

The guy is a total savage—you can't give him an inch.

That part isn't really up for debate. What *is* debatable is whether the potential benefits of such a move actually outweigh the inevitable fallout... and frankly, I don't think the math adds up. In a sense, they've just handed him the perfect excuse to roll out a full mobilization—at least, that's how he'll spin it to his people. Either way, it'll serve to unify the Russian population under one banner. Or, more likely, the US will be forced to backtrack, which would just give Putin even more momentum.

We need to go all the way with this. That enclave tumor needs to be completely blocked off—wherever possible and however we can manage it. And then, once we finally crush the Nazi Russian Federation and bring them to their knees, we de-Russify the enclave and wipe the name Kaliningrad from the history books forever. I honestly think that’s the only way forward.

ironseal said:We need to go all the way with this. That enclave tumor needs to be completely blocked off—wherever possible and however we can manage it. And then, once we finally crush the Nazi Russian Federation and bring them to their knees, we de-Russify the enclave and wipe the name Kaliningrad from the history books forever. I honestly think that’s the only way forward.

Bringing back Königsberg? Handing it over to Germany?

Knocking them to their knees, de-Russification, ethnic cleansing... man, you'll read just about anything in here.

Haven't we seen more than enough of that already?

Lisa Jackson7 said:Bringing back Königsberg? Handing it over to Germany?

Knocking them to their knees, de-Russification, ethnic cleansing... man, you'll read just about anything in here.

Haven't we seen more than enough of that already?

Honestly, some people in here are getting way too worked up.

gentlerider7 said:Honestly, some people in here are getting way too worked up.

Yeah.

Whatever, I mean, what’s even the point in asking anyone on this forum anyway? It’s not like anyone actually gives a damn. But look, regarding Lithuania and Russ... apparently both Lithuania and Russ are claiming they made the whole call in total agreement with the European Union.

Andrew Booth29 said:I honestly don't see the point in beating a dead horse here—it’s just handing Russian propaganda a massive victory on a silver platter. If there was anyone left in Russia who had even a shred of doubt regarding Putin's claims about NATO encircling them, they won't have those doubts anymore. This is a total fail, imho.

They're strictly following the sanctions set by the European Union
and they aren't blocking all transit—just the specific goods sanctioned by the European Union, not every single shipment passing through.

gentlestag15 said:They're strictly following the sanctions set by the European Union
and they aren't blocking all transit—just the specific goods sanctioned by the European Union, not every single shipment passing through.

That part makes sense to me—I get the logic—but I have a feeling Russian propaganda is going to blow this out of proportion and turn it into some massive, exaggerated crisis. 😁
I honestly doubt how much actual impact this will have, though. But hey, that’s just my two cents.

Andrew Booth29 said:That part makes sense to me—I get the logic—but I have a feeling Russian propaganda is going to blow this out of proportion and turn it into some massive, exaggerated crisis. 😁
I honestly doubt how much actual impact this will have, though. But hey, that’s just my two cents.

If you ask me, they might as well just shut the borders entirely. Once a country gets slapped with an "enemy" label by someone like Russia—just like how Lithuania got tagged as an adversary—there isn't much point in playing nice anymore.