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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Sean Reed3 Sean Reed3 Member
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#4221 ·
hollowdriver13 said:https://mobile.twitter.com/washingto...55804647727104

Just a little bit of Soviet history coming back to life for us.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Euromaida...04609564184577

Some hackers are out here trolling the Russians in Crimea—they actually hacked a digital billboard right at the bridge entrance to display a "Welcome to Ukraine" sign.

Putler is copying his biggest idol again...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_..._German_Mother
Kevin Ruiz2 Kevin Ruiz2 Newcomer
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#4222 ·
The swimming season in Crimea has officially come to an end. 🤔
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#4223 ·
goldenowl73 said:Looks like we've got some Russians moving into our neck of the woods. This situation is looking pretty intense

Breaking: Albanian media report that Three Russians exchanged Fire with Albanian military while Trying to infiltrat weapons facility in The town of Gramsh. One attacker is reported dead, and they're saying two soldiers are currently getting medical help for injuries caused by a chemical attack. https://t.co/akQZk70WkA

Apparently, we're looking at three intruders hitting some kind of weapons plant under the cover of a storm. Two are in custody, while the third remains at large. At first glance, this feels like a predictable extension of how Russian intelligence services have historically targeted ammunition depots and factories across Europe. We’ve seen them blow things up before. Everyone plays the hand they're dealt—the Ukrainians have their HIMARS, while the Russians rely on the FSB. It would be interesting to pinpoint exactly what is being manufactured at that site; it might explain why it’s such a tempting target.
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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#4224 ·
Retired guy with a hunting rifle takes down a jet engine:

An American retiree heard a loud noise, grabbed his rifle, and started blasting at a Russian Sukhoi jet: ‘It let out a roar, stumbled and went down!’

If anyone’s skeptical, here’s a shot of the old man:
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4225 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:Apparently, we're looking at three intruders hitting some kind of weapons plant under the cover of a storm. Two are in custody, while the third remains at large. At first glance, this feels like a predictable extension of how Russian intelligence services have historically targeted ammunition depots and factories across Europe. We’ve seen them blow things up before. Everyone plays the hand they're dealt—the Ukrainians have their HIMARS, while the Russians rely on the FSB. It would be interesting to pinpoint exactly what is being manufactured at that site; it might explain why it’s such a tempting target.

Just your typical Russian "tourists" roaming around NATO countries like they own the place. Word is it was two guys and one woman.

Further update to this story: 2 Russian men and one women arrested inside the grounds of weapons factory after attacking guards. Two soldiers injured. Anti-terror and Intel service of Albania now on the ground. Local media claim they came in as tourists. https://t.co/BwHGFMMSVI
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#4226 ·
There's some talk circulating that Dugin's daughter might have been killed in a car bombing in Moscow tonight, though it hasn't been officially confirmed yet. It honestly feels like it could just be more internal infighting within Russia that doesn't even have anything to do with the situation in Ukraine, but since the Russia thread in the 'world ' locked subforum is closed off, I'm dropping the news here instead.
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/stat...m1KPvd1nw&s=19
Of course, there's also the possibility that this is tied directly to the war—you know, like the beginning of a massive power struggle within Russia itself, where different factions start making their moves because they're anticipating the current leadership will fall if things keep going south in the conflict.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#4227 ·
goldenowl73 said:Just your typical Russian "tourists" roaming around NATO countries like they own the place. Word is it was two guys and one woman.

Further update to this story: 2 Russian men and one women arrested inside the grounds of weapons factory after attacking guards. Two soldiers injured. Anti-terror and Intel service of Albania now on the ground. Local media claim they came in as tourists. https://t.co/BwHGFMMSVI

If—or rather, when—their visas are mass-revoked, their ability to operate on the ground will be severely crippled. Right now, they can easily hide in plain sight within large tour groups. Their most likely play would be smuggling themselves around using forged Ukrainian documents; it's probably the path of least resistance.
boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
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#4228 ·
Megan Thomas5 said:"Quote:"
nina kent Asks:
I mean, I never really thought of these major powers as "the big three evils"—at least not during that relatively peaceful stretch in this part of the world after communism collapsed. Now? I’d say that description fits Russia perfectly. But honestly, it feels like saying sharks are evil just because they're massive and powerful. Being big and strong is just how they exist.

Russia is honestly lagging way behind, and China is playing an entirely different game that doesn't really align with our interests anyway. Then you've got other major players like India and the Islamic world, who are even further off from our idea of a "good life."

I feel the same way. In my book, the USA is definitely more "good" than "evil." Honestly, without them, the values we hold dear here in America and across the West probably wouldn't even exist today. I'm doing my internship. If America hadn't existed—as a superpower, a society, or even just a concept—we’d be in a completely different world. Think about it: would we have even beaten the Nazis without American support? Or how did Europe manage to shake off those old-school hierarchical systems without the push from the US toward democratic values? We basically imported their entire blueprint for modern life: equality, the rule of law, freedom of speech... even the tech that changed everything for the average person, from refrigerators and cars to rock and roll, TVs, and now computers. Everything. What kind of nonsense is this? So what, did it just fly in from Russia, China, some random spot in Saudi Arabia or India, or maybe Iran? Who knows.

Maybe there’d be a tiny slice of it, but it would probably only be for the aristocracy and the bourgeoisie. It’d likely end up just like Russia...

Is this what people call "American idolatry"? I wouldn't go that far. It’s perfectly obvious to me that there are plenty of idiots and plenty of bad things happening over there. But what I said above? To me, that's just an undeniable fact of modern history.

It’s all just one big Greek tragicomedy happening at once. 😁 So today we're acting like America is this big protective brother looking out for us, when in reality, she's basically our European daughter, right? 🤔 If you didn't have Europe (and yeah, that includes Russia), there wouldn't even be an America.
Look, I get it—the USA isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. But honestly? It’s still the best thing that could have happened to the world.
Let’s be real for a second—most of us are living pretty damn good lives. We've got plenty of stuff, we can travel wherever we feel like, and we have the freedom to say whatever's on our minds.

Just an example of a typical day: you wake up, head to a job with decent conditions, and if you’ve got the skills or the right training, you don't end up wrecking your health in the process. Once you clock out, you actually have choices—you can go for a walk, ride your bike, grab a beer, or grab some food.
You could spend your night bingeing Netflix, catching a game, hitting the pub, or scrolling through Facebook and Instagram to comment on everything without a second thought. You could be on Tinder looking for a hookup, or just traveling the world. Instead, you're here.

Imagine if the US didn't exist and we were stuck dealing with some Russian or Chinese regime running the show instead.
Everything we use today wasn't actually invented by them. If they ever did come up with anything, it wouldn't be for the general public—it would just be some niche thing for the party elites.
So you’d rather go work a manual labor job since apparently everything else is pure evil... But hey, once you're off the clock, you won't have much of a choice. Most technology wouldn't even exist. Not to mention movies, shows, or games—if we look at our own society, how many modern series are actually Russian or Chinese? Zero? Yeah, exactly.
Games? They’re basically at zero.

If it weren't for the major players like Russia, China, Iran, and their crowd—who haven't contributed a single damn thing to the world besides tyranny, war, and crushing human rights—we wouldn't have made it past the 1900s.

The fact that the USA exists as it does is proof enough that tyrants won't be running the show.

Well, I guess we have to be honest here—if you look at literature, digital games wouldn't be the same without Russia.

And it’s all thanks to just one thing, though maybe it isn't even that huge: Tetris. 😁

Oh, and then there's those hardcore flight sims. DCS is a Russian product, and before that, we had Flanker, which first came out back in 1995 simulating combat between Russia, Ukraine, and the US around Crimea. 😵
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4229 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:Apparently, we're looking at three intruders hitting some kind of weapons plant under the cover of a storm. Two are in custody, while the third remains at large. At first glance, this feels like a predictable extension of how Russian intelligence services have historically targeted ammunition depots and factories across Europe. We’ve seen them blow things up before. Everyone plays the hand they're dealt—the Ukrainians have their HIMARS, while the Russians rely on the FSB. It would be interesting to pinpoint exactly what is being manufactured at that site; it might explain why it’s such a tempting target.

They actually blew up an ammo dump in Bulgaria recently, and we all know Bulgaria is busy cranking out USSR-caliber rounds for Ukraine right now.

https://twitter.com/Blake_Allen13/st...27772396625922
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4230 ·
Sigmund Freud said:chill out, Kokošenkov is the boss here 😁

Every dictator must have their own Baghdad Bob. 😁
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#4231 ·
Carl Lee27 said:There's some talk circulating that Dugin's daughter might have been killed in a car bombing in Moscow tonight, though it hasn't been officially confirmed yet. It honestly feels like it could just be more internal infighting within Russia that doesn't even have anything to do with the situation in Ukraine, but since the Russia thread in the 'world ' locked subforum is closed off, I'm dropping the news here instead.
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/stat...m1KPvd1nw&s=19
Of course, there's also the possibility that this is tied directly to the war—you know, like the beginning of a massive power struggle within Russia itself, where different factions start making their moves because they're anticipating the current leadership will fall if things keep going south in the conflict.

Now, several Russian media outlets are pointing the finger at her. She was quite active in politics and supposedly had much closer ties to Putin than most. Her views were pretty much a mirror image of her father's, too, which landed her right at the top of the UK sanctions list. From what I can see, the vehicle was absolutely totaled.
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/statu...03665766846465
Is this just internal Russian infighting, or could it actually be the work of Ukrainians? There's even talk that her father was supposed to be in that car with her.
boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
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#4232 ·
hollowdriver13 said:They actually blew up an ammo dump in Bulgaria recently, and we all know Bulgaria is busy cranking out USSR-caliber rounds for Ukraine right now.

https://twitter.com/Blake_Allen13/st...27772396625922

I guess this also raises some questions about that recent crash involving a Ukrainian plane in Greece that was hauling Mexican ammo...
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4233 ·
Carl Lee27 said:Now, several Russian media outlets are pointing the finger at her. She was quite active in politics and supposedly had much closer ties to Putin than most. Her views were pretty much a mirror image of her father's, too, which landed her right at the top of the UK sanctions list. From what I can see, the vehicle was absolutely totaled.
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/statu...03665766846465
Is this just internal Russian infighting, or could it actually be the work of Ukrainians? There's even talk that her father was supposed to be in that car with her.

There are photos further down in the thread showing him arriving at the crash site holding his head in his hands—honestly, I think that’s pretty much a confirmation of what happened.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#4234 ·
It looks like they’re getting a real lesson in reality out in the Donbas—turns out when that idiot from Kyiv decides to play by Cosa Nostra/Mossad/Al-Qaeda rules, things get messy quickly.

The only thing is, they were such amateurs that they ended up killing the daughter of the guy they were actually trying to take out.🤦

They’ve gone and activated some sleeper cells in Russia and Crimea. There are plenty of Ukrainians living in Russia, so I guess finding candidates isn't exactly a struggle—not to mention the CIA and British intelligence are likely pulling the strings behind the scenes.
William Cooper11 William Cooper11 Active Member
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#4235 ·
wiredseal7 said:It looks like they’re getting a real lesson in reality out in the Donbas—turns out when that idiot from Kyiv decides to play by Cosa Nostra/Mossad/Al-Qaeda rules, things get messy quickly.

The only thing is, they were such amateurs that they ended up killing the daughter of the guy they were actually trying to take out.🤦

They’ve gone and activated some sleeper cells in Russia and Crimea. There are plenty of Ukrainians living in Russia, so I guess finding candidates isn't exactly a struggle—not to mention the CIA and British intelligence are likely pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Give me a break. It’s much more logical that one of the oligarchs finally lost his mind over this Putin adventure—which was inspired by Dugin's imperial nonsense—and decided to take out Dugina, but the daughter ended up caught in the crossfire by pure accident.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4236 ·
wiredseal7 said:It looks like they’re getting a real lesson in reality out in the Donbas—turns out when that idiot from Kyiv decides to play by Cosa Nostra/Mossad/Al-Qaeda rules, things get messy quickly.

The only thing is, they were such amateurs that they ended up killing the daughter of the guy they were actually trying to take out.🤦

They’ve gone and activated some sleeper cells in Russia and Crimea. There are plenty of Ukrainians living in Russia, so I guess finding candidates isn't exactly a struggle—not to mention the CIA and British intelligence are likely pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Who even needs the CIA, MI6, NSA, or the FBI when you've got wiredseal7 here with a crystal ball to tell us exactly who ordered the hit and who pulled the trigger?
If they’re really getting beaten back in the Donbas, how does that work? They haven't even managed to fully take Pisky yet, so how can Russians be bragging about taking Sieversk after five weeks? Something doesn't add up. ☕
Steven White7 Steven White7 Newcomer
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#4237 ·
Yeah, that number looks pretty spot on to me.
Videos: and (not sure if you can even open those without having the Telegram app installed)
It feels like they were actually aiming for Dugin himself, though I have to say, that strikes me as a bit bizarre. Honestly, the guy is practically irrelevant these days; even if people want to believe he’s pulling Putin's strings, the war is happening right now, and no mystic philosopher is going to calm it down or ramp it up. Maybe this was just meant as a personal vendetta?

I've scrolled through Dugin's posts on his Telegram channel before, and frankly, I'd say there are plenty of people on this forum who are far more philosophically literate than he is.
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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#4238 ·
Such a shame to see a good drink go to waste.

šupački, whoever gave the green light to make this thing
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4239 ·
Steven White7 said:Yeah, that number looks pretty spot on to me.
Videos: and (not sure if you can even open those without having the Telegram app installed)
It feels like they were actually aiming for Dugin himself, though I have to say, that strikes me as a bit bizarre. Honestly, the guy is practically irrelevant these days; even if people want to believe he’s pulling Putin's strings, the war is happening right now, and no mystic philosopher is going to calm it down or ramp it up. Maybe this was just meant as a personal vendetta?

I've scrolled through Dugin's posts on his Telegram channel before, and frankly, I'd say there are plenty of people on this forum who are far more philosophically literate than he is.

Look, it wouldn't be the first time Putin bombs something and then points the finger at some "outside influence" to cover his tracks (kind of like how they handled the two Chechen wars). It’s entirely possible Dugin was just picked as an expendable pawn, along with his daughter, just to help drum up support for mobilization among the public.
Steven White7 Steven White7 Newcomer
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#4240 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Look, it wouldn't be the first time Putin bombs something and then points the finger at some "outside influence" to cover his tracks (kind of like how they handled the two Chechen wars). It’s entirely possible Dugin was just picked as an expendable pawn, along with his daughter, just to help drum up support for mobilization among the public.

I honestly don't see any logic in that theory whatsoever. Most people in Russia couldn't care less about Dugin; if anything, most of them probably haven't even heard his name. He’s way more famous out here in the West than he is back home in Russia. And besides, why would the government even need to mobilize the population right now?

Anyway, I've been doing a bit of digging, and his daughter has always been pretty active politically. She’s spent her time pushing Putin's vision of Russia and his policies onto the West, and from what I gather, she’s had some pretty solid connections with the right-wing circles over in France.

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