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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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joined Jun 2024
#841 ·
Jeremy Turner9 said:As far as we know, the European Union now has to purchase its oil and gas using dollars, which inevitably drives prices higher...

Not all of it, and definitely not for long 🙂 Plus, those aren't exactly the kind of "lucrative deals" you're talking about.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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joined Jan 2018
#842 ·
William Cooper11 said:Ukraine wouldn't even be in this position if the West hadn't started sending military aid. We’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out. Personally, I could see a Western military intervention involving maybe 100,000 to 150,000 troops—a coalition of the Baltic states, Poland, Finland, the UK, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia—backed by US air power. That should be more than enough to push Russian forces out of Ukraine, though Crimea might stay out of reach.

Relying on air power is a double-edged sword. The Russians would simply strike back from Belarusian or Russian territory. That essentially mandates the immediate neutralization of those launch sites, which constitutes an attack on the Russian Federation itself. Once you cross that line, you're effectively opening the door to World War III; neutralizing those systems happens the moment their positions are compromised.
If an intervention were to occur, it absolutely must include Crimea. Crimea has become a matter of principle, and there is no room for compromise there. Giving in to the aggressor regarding Crimea today is nothing more than an invitation for Russia to launch the next conflict once they recover and regroup. That is precisely what we are trying to prevent through preemptive action. If we fail to stop them now, we might as well give up entirely.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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joined Aug 2013
#843 ·
Justin Mendoza16 said:AMERICANS ARE LOSING IT! Ukrainians just went wild singing that old battlefield Chavoglav song. Seriously, if you worship Thompson... no wonder Mexicans are siding with Russia!

If you're such a big fan of Thompson, here's the Ukrainian version for you:
it's at the 50-minute mark of the video. It popped up right between two different aggressions against Ukraine.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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joined Aug 2013
#844 ·
casualtiger2 said:Nationalism is a disease, regardless of which side is spreading it.
I haven't caught everything, but if this was sung for those "knights" in the Hague, then 👎

Nationalism is just loving your own country; it becomes a sickness when people start hating their own nation just to chase some "higher cause." This song was actually performed for the generals who had their charges dropped at The Hague.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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joined Aug 2013
#845 ·
Jeremy Turner9 said:Consider a scenario where the Euro is losing its strength while the US initiates a currency war against the EU; by imposing these sanctions, the EU essentially forfeits its most profitable business opportunities and major contracts. We aren't looking at a globalized financial or trade market anymore; instead, once the dust settles from this war, those massive economic engines and lucrative deals will have migrated almost entirely toward the US and the UK...

The US already moved its business to China.
Nancy Howard4 Nancy Howard4 Active Member
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joined Sep 2022
#846 ·
William Cooper11 said:Ukraine wouldn't even be in this position if the West hadn't started sending military aid. We’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out. Personally, I could see a Western military intervention involving maybe 100,000 to 150,000 troops—a coalition of the Baltic states, Poland, Finland, the UK, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia—backed by US air power. That should be more than enough to push Russian forces out of Ukraine, though Crimea might stay out of reach.

Are you guys seriously this much of a bunch of psychopaths wanting this, or is your life just so miserable that you're actually terrified of dying alone?
You're totally forgetting what would happen in that exact moment if those NATO soldiers actually moved in against the Russians; it's exactly the move Putin is waiting for so he can start hitting them with tactical nukes, and once everything goes completely south, well, let it all go to hell.😉
William Cooper11 William Cooper11 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#847 ·
Nancy Howard4 said:Are you guys seriously this much of a bunch of psychopaths wanting this, or is your life just so miserable that you're actually terrified of dying alone?
You're totally forgetting what would happen in that exact moment if those NATO soldiers actually moved in against the Russians; it's exactly the move Putin is waiting for so he can start hitting them with tactical nukes, and once everything goes completely south, well, let it all go to hell.😉

Right now, the only psychopaths left are sitting in the Kremlin. In this scenario, Russia is just a bully that only understands one thing: brute force. The only way this war actually ends is if they suffer a military defeat and get kicked out of Ukraine.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
216 messages
joined Aug 2013
#848 ·
Wilson said:I actually enjoy listening to this guy's music—honestly, my whole family and all my friends blast his tracks at every single celebration we have, from weddings and baptisms to backyard BBQs. If you’ve got a problem with that, feel free to call Vučić and Vulin immediately to pass along your little grievance... just so nothing gets missed.

If you had actually bothered to read the translation below, you wouldn't be making these comments—unless, of course, reading standard English isn't really your thing.

I don't get it—what's the issue here? It’s actually pretty interesting how the video creator translated Thompson's song into Ukrainian right before the latest aggression against Ukraine began. That's the whole reason I shared the link.
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#849 ·
Check out some gems from the G7 geniuses:

As the leaders gathered around the table where Joe Biden was sitting, Johnson piped up with: "Are we taking off our jackets? No jackets? Should we just get naked?"

When Trudeau suggested waiting until the official photo op, Johnson shot back: "We have to show them we're tougher than Putin."

"We'll ride horses with bare chests," the Canadian PM added.

"We really need to show off those chests," Johnson chimed in.

"Horseback riding is definitely the way to go," von der Leyen quipped.

They aren't actually tough, though. By refusing to disarm themselves, they basically just gave a new Hitler the green light to hold onto his nukes too.
Megan Thomas5 Megan Thomas5 Active Member
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joined Jan 2021
#850 ·
Over these last four months, one thing has become crystal clear: we aren't going to see Russians anywhere for a long time. Whether it's the European Championships, the World Cup, or even just avoiding those Russian cheaters in online gaming, they’re basically being pushed to the fringes. It's a shame, really, because the Russian people have been so thoroughly brainwashed that they actually back all of this—kind of like how people were in the North America back in the 90s, except back then we didn't even have the internet to see what was happening.
Jeremy Peterson4 Jeremy Peterson4 Active Member
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joined Mar 2023
#851 ·
Megan Thomas5 said:Over these last four months, one thing has become crystal clear: we aren't going to see Russians anywhere for a long time. Whether it's the European Championships, the World Cup, or even just avoiding those Russian cheaters in online gaming, they’re basically being pushed to the fringes. It's a shame, really, because the Russian people have been so thoroughly brainwashed that they actually back all of this—kind of like how people were in the North America back in the 90s, except back then we didn't even have the internet to see what was happening.

Just more proof that communism is pure EVIL!
Gerald Torres84 Gerald Torres84 Active Member
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joined Oct 2015
#852 ·
Megan Thomas5 said:Over these last four months, one thing has become crystal clear: we aren't going to see Russians anywhere for a long time. Whether it's the European Championships, the World Cup, or even just avoiding those Russian cheaters in online gaming, they’re basically being pushed to the fringes. It's a shame, really, because the Russian people have been so thoroughly brainwashed that they actually back all of this—kind of like how people were in the North America back in the 90s, except back then we didn't even have the internet to see what was happening.

And look, until they get rid of their dictator and his entire crew, nothing will improve for them. They have to fight for themselves.
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#853 ·
Is there any truth to that story about General Pavel?
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
203 messages
joined Feb 2013
#854 ·
Donna Harris11 said:Is there any truth to that story about General Pavel?

Wait, you mean he's only 20 stone (about 275 lbs)?
If those were his stats from when they last weighed him back in Afghanistan...

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...alled-27326346
Jeremy Peterson4 Jeremy Peterson4 Active Member
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joined Mar 2023
#855 ·
rustywalker82 said:Wait, you mean he's only 20 stone (about 275 lbs)?
If those were his stats from when they last weighed him back in Afghanistan...

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...alled-27326346

Lmao, give me a break. There's no way shrapnel misses a guy like him.
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
203 messages
joined Feb 2013
#856 ·
Just slot him right into the center of the formation and you're golden. 🙂
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#857 ·
Jeremy Peterson4 said:Lmao, give me a break. There's no way shrapnel misses a guy like him.

If he managed to miss Bob Dole, who knows if he'll even graze him this time...
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#858 ·
Hey everyone, I’ve been seeing some job leads popping up for Pittsburgh lately.

There's this big TV production coming up soon that's looking to hire a ton of extras to fill out the background scenes. They're offering about $15 a day for the gig. The filming is actually supposed to take place over in the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic.

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/st...W4mXWmP0whAlpA

I'll throw in a little contest for fun—anybody want to guess what they're actually filming?
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
216 messages
joined Aug 2013
#859 ·
goldenowl73 said:Hey everyone, I’ve been seeing some job leads popping up for Pittsburgh lately.

There's this big TV production coming up soon that's looking to hire a ton of extras to fill out the background scenes. They're offering about $15 a day for the gig. The filming is actually supposed to take place over in the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic.

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/st...W4mXWmP0whAlpA

I'll throw in a little contest for fun—anybody want to guess what they're actually filming?

They'll be filming them with drones.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
571 messages
joined Aug 2019
#860 ·
goldenowl73 said:Hey everyone, I’ve been seeing some job leads popping up for Pittsburgh lately.

There's this big TV production coming up soon that's looking to hire a ton of extras to fill out the background scenes. They're offering about $15 a day for the gig. The filming is actually supposed to take place over in the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic.

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/st...W4mXWmP0whAlpA

I'll throw in a little contest for fun—anybody want to guess what they're actually filming?

Every soldier's gotta grab themselves at least one blue armband on their own dime.

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