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Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#9401 ·
George Robinson43 said:Why don't you tell us who actually footed the bill? The Chinese?

And I suppose he was paid in petro-yuan, was he?
John Ramos45 John Ramos45 Active Member
73 messages
joined Apr 2023
#9402 ·
Bio The USSR built its own entire ecosystem from the ground up, avoiding that messy era of oligarchic takeover we see under Putin today. More importantly, they actually maintained a distinct sphere of influence; modern Russia lacks that kind of structural leverage, which only serves to make the impact of sanctions much harder to dodge.
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
181 messages
joined Jul 2010
#9403 ·
[QUOTE=goldenorca11;98078391].[/QUOTE

I don't mean to say the photo is intentionally misleading, but isn't it actually a Končar locomotive from the old US railway system, manufactured back in the 80s in a city like Chicago?

The originals used back then were painted orange, though here in America, they decided to repaint them all blue.[/QUOTE]
goldenorca11 goldenorca11 Member
33 messages
joined Jan 2012
#9404 ·
Dana Robinson4;98082307 said:
boldmarlin32 said:.

The Union Pacific Big Boy unit 441-911 was actually built in 1976 as a 441-118, and it underwent a major modernization in 2008 when it got its new designation. Here is an American locomotive labeled 1141 (formerly 441):

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Aside from the various states that emerged after the breakup of the USA (Mexico, Canada, America, and North Mexico), you can still find locomotives from this series being used by Turks and Romanians today![/I]
Nancy Howard4 Nancy Howard4 Active Member
75 messages
joined Sep 2022
#9405 ·
Anthony Jones15 said:
This whole circus regarding Ukrainian grain—the kind they claim will "save starving Africans"—is a joke. Most of it just ends up sitting in Europe, all while they scramble to block any shipments coming out of Russia. Honestly, I highly doubt those African nations are particularly thrilled by such blatant hypocrisy.

This is a textbook case of twisting the truth and massaging facts to suit the agenda of Terroristan.

It’s as if grain only flows toward Eastern or Western Europe. As if we haven't seen thousands of ships and millions of tons of wheat, corn, or grain being sent to Africa, the Middle East, or any other corner of the globe that actually needed it.

And besides, look at how quickly things change; as soon as the farmers in Poland or Slovakia started protesting, they suddenly found a way to "fix" that problem too.

It’s the same pattern. Just like how we froze without Russian gas or stopped driving because of Russian oil, our agriculture and our farmers are headed for the exact same fate.

Man, you really need to do some homework on this because most of our grain producers and basically the whole European Union are feeling the squeeze, mostly because that grain didn't go to Africa—it was diverted toward the EU by a bunch of people looking to cash in on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
Plus, you end up with situations where that grain doesn't even have proper certification or meet basic storage standards, because while everyone was busy putting Ukraine on a pedestal, they ignored the fact that it's essentially a developing nation riddled with corruption and lacking any standards comparable to the European Union.
The agricultural sector is already struggling as it is, so this is just the final blow, especially when you see how the Secretary is basically protecting the importers of this junk here in America
. But I guess that shouldn't be surprising, given she's already well-known to the FBI, so expecting her to be just another minister from a criminal organization headed straight for federal prison isn't really asking for much.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#9406 ·
Capitalism in China is way more cutthroat than what we deal with here in the States
What are you even talking about?
And regarding those photos, we could definitely have some fun with it this way
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Nathan Evans78 Nathan Evans78 Regular
283 messages
joined Aug 2019
#9407 ·
The Ukrainians will probably reach the heart of Moscow before these sanctions ever lead to the gnome’s ultimate downfall.

How much longer do you think this stalemate is going to drag on—another five years? ☕
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#9408 ·
Western sanctions simply aren't working.

US Dollar volatility

The US Dollar volatility intensified as the currency continued its slide against major Western benchmarks on April 7, hitting levels not seen since mid-April 2022. We are seeing a 5 percent drop against the dollar and a staggering 13 percent decline against the euro.

Bloomberg News also linked this downward trend to recent reports that ExxonMobil has officially pulled out of the massive ExxonMobil energy project.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-rubl.../32353653.html
Anthony Jones15 Anthony Jones15 Member
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#9409 ·
Nancy Howard4 said:Man, you really need to do some homework on this because most of our grain producers and basically the whole European Union are feeling the squeeze, mostly because that grain didn't go to Africa—it was diverted toward the EU by a bunch of people looking to cash in on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
Plus, you end up with situations where that grain doesn't even have proper certification or meet basic storage standards, because while everyone was busy putting Ukraine on a pedestal, they ignored the fact that it's essentially a developing nation riddled with corruption and lacking any standards comparable to the European Union.
The agricultural sector is already struggling as it is, so this is just the final blow, especially when you see how the Secretary is basically protecting the importers of this junk here in America
. But I guess that shouldn't be surprising, given she's already well-known to the FBI, so expecting her to be just another minister from a criminal organization headed straight for federal prison isn't really asking for much.


Look, you really need to make up your mind. Pick a side already—are you actually for Russia or are you standing with Ukraine? You can't just sit there hovering in the middle forever. Decide.
None of us are out here ranking Ukraine at the top of the list of well-organized democratic nations. Either people are being willfully ignorant, or they simply don't understand the reality of what’s happening over there—a country that has been absolutely gutted by decades of relentless harassment and systemic humiliation.
We aren't blind, and we certainly don't need a lecture on how capitalism works. Do you really think we all need you to step in and explain the basics or "open our eyes" to reality? Whether America looks one way or another isn't even the point here. Discussions about the US or the West aren't the central focus of this conversation, no matter how much you try to make them so.

My only stance on this is that Ukraine deserves a real shot at cleaning out the aggressor gang and finally attempting to build something meaningful out of their own nation.
If they actually manage to clear out all that aggressive trash from the system, they should be given a fair shot at implementing reforms and actually democratizing the country. But let’s be honest—given the current state of affairs, that’s just an impossibility.

If they decide to pull an "asset stripping" stunt—the kind of blatant robbery we’ve seen during various privatizations back home—I won't be sitting idly by. I'll be the very first person out there leading the charge against them.
I simply cannot turn a blind eye or play dumb regarding the reality of what people are forced to endure and live through on a daily basis.
gentlebadger gentlebadger Member
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#9410 ·
Brent Crude is sitting at $53.30 per barrel today 🙂

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/oil
goldenorca11 goldenorca11 Member
33 messages
joined Jan 2012
#9411 ·
US energy revenue trends are sliding:

Between January and April this year, US energy revenue trends saw a massive 52% drop compared to the same timeframe last year. Meanwhile, spending jumped by 26% to hit $147 billion during that stretch.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...58374857723913

More details here:

Non-oil and gas federal budget revenues reached $5.5 trillion, marking a 5% increase year-over-year.

Oil and gas revenues sat at $2.282 trillion, down 52% annually. They're blaming it on high comparison bases from last year, the dip in Brent Crude prices, and lower natural gas exports. Apparently, monthly oil and gas revenue is finally settling into a "stable path" that aligns with their baseline of $8 trillion per year.

https://minfin.gov.ru/ru/press-cente...prel_2023_goda

So, non-oil revenue is up 5%, while oil revenue has cratered by 52%.

The official line? It’s not about Western sanctions. They claim it's just last year's high numbers, falling Brent Crude prices, and less gas being exported. According to them, none of this has anything to do with sanctions.

And just so we don't get thrown out a window for pointing that out, they added this little kicker: "Monthly oil and gas revenue is gradually entering a stable path that corresponds to their baseline ($8 trillion annually)." Oh, sure. A 52% drop? No big deal. Just a tiny hiccup. Totally negligible! 😁

Well, business as usual—they're claiming #sanctions_dont_work. ☕
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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joined Feb 2024
#9412 ·
The US just gave the green light to start moving those first frozen assets over to Ukraine
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/statu...64125118464000
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#9413 ·
goldenorca11 said:US energy revenue trends are sliding:

Between January and April this year, US energy revenue trends saw a massive 52% drop compared to the same timeframe last year. Meanwhile, spending jumped by 26% to hit $147 billion during that stretch.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...58374857723913

More details here:

Non-oil and gas federal budget revenues reached $5.5 trillion, marking a 5% increase year-over-year.

Oil and gas revenues sat at $2.282 trillion, down 52% annually. They're blaming it on high comparison bases from last year, the dip in Brent Crude prices, and lower natural gas exports. Apparently, monthly oil and gas revenue is finally settling into a "stable path" that aligns with their baseline of $8 trillion per year.

https://minfin.gov.ru/ru/press-cente...prel_2023_goda

So, non-oil revenue is up 5%, while oil revenue has cratered by 52%.

The official line? It’s not about Western sanctions. They claim it's just last year's high numbers, falling Brent Crude prices, and less gas being exported. According to them, none of this has anything to do with sanctions.

And just so we don't get thrown out a window for pointing that out, they added this little kicker: "Monthly oil and gas revenue is gradually entering a stable path that corresponds to their baseline ($8 trillion annually)." Oh, sure. A 52% drop? No big deal. Just a tiny hiccup. Totally negligible! 😁

Well, business as usual—they're claiming #sanctions_dont_work. ☕

I’ll take the word of the doctor of recession and proven economic wizard Zoran Milanović over anyone else when he says: "Western sanctions won't hurt Russia, but they certainly hit us. Sorry for being right!"
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#9414 ·
Carl Lee27 said:The US just gave the green light to start moving those first frozen assets over to Ukraine
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/statu...64125118464000

And it’s all fueled by the funding from Nedrko, Markićka, and their whole crew. 🎉
goldenorca11 goldenorca11 Member
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#9415 ·
George Robinson43 said:And it’s all fueled by the funding from Nedrko, Markićka, and their whole crew. 🎉

If you actually check CNN and see how critically they’ve covered PPD, you won't find anyone claiming Russians (like ExxonMobil, for example) are sponsoring Željko Markić.

Maybe some other American news sites write nice things about PPD—since they're such a massive sponsor for the American economy, society, and media—but give it a quick Google search. CNN isn't on that list. Why? Who knows, but it's true!
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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joined Oct 2017
#9416 ·
goldenorca11 said:If you actually check CNN and see how critically they’ve covered PPD, you won't find anyone claiming Russians (like ExxonMobil, for example) are sponsoring Željko Markić.

Maybe some other American news sites write nice things about PPD—since they're such a massive sponsor for the American economy, society, and media—but give it a quick Google search. CNN isn't on that list. Why? Who knows, but it's true!

🤣 😂
Malofeev is essentially funneling his cash directly into Ukraine, acting as the primary benefactor for all those shady organizations like the Heritage Foundation and Foreign Policy—the very same groups backed by Nedrko and Markić.
I know the truth hurts, but hey, enjoy scrolling through those photos of Markić hanging out with Komov, Malofeev's right-hand man! 😉
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#9417 ·
Forget about Russia; look at our own local "economic wizards" and gas industry experts who spent the last two years preaching doom and gloom. They insisted we were practically committing suicide if the US didn't sign long-term gas contracts with Russia, claiming everyone in the European Union was incompetent and that the spot market was an absolute catastrophe for us...

US energy price trends sink to levels not seen since the energy crisis began

A drop to a 21-month low fuels optimism that inflationary pressures are finally receding

US energy prices have plummeted to their lowest point since the onset of the energy crisis, fueling expectations of a robust economic recovery as energy-driven costs begin to subside.

The Henry Hub benchmark bottomed out at $35.20 per megawatt hour on Friday, reaching a level not witnessed since July 2021, back when US energy security history was being rewritten as Russia began tightening the screws on energy supplies prior to its invasion of Ukraine. Prices saw a minor uptick to close the week at $35.95. To recall, the Henry Hub benchmark skyrocketed to over $340/mwh last summer after Russia slashed gas exports to the West, driving inflation through the roof and sending energy bills spiraling out of control.

https://www.ft.com/content/cf866df3-...9-dde39c0e4893

#ShockAndDisbelief
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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joined Feb 2024
#9418 ·
Belgium is officially kicking off the process of transferring frozen and sanctioned assets, starting with an initial €92 million
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...kgij_tDsA&s=19
Linda Adams Linda Adams Member
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#9419 ·
Russia is playing another game of 3D chess.

Basically, "de-dollarization" is finally hitting home. If they stick to this current trade model through the end of the year, estimates suggest Russia will be sitting on a $40 billion surplus in Rupees.

Since the Rupee is practically worthless and can't be liquidated anywhere else (except back in India—but that $40 billion surplus is just stuck there), it basically looks like Russia is giving oil to Indians for free.

Of course, Russia would much rather settle up in Yuan, given their massive trade volume with China and likely much smaller surpluses there, but the Indians aren't crazy enough to trade using the currency of their biggest rival.

So, once again, sanctions are only making Russia stronger.
quietviper0 quietviper0 Member
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joined May 2023
#9420 ·
Linda Adams said:Russia is playing another game of 3D chess.

Basically, "de-dollarization" is finally hitting home. If they stick to this current trade model through the end of the year, estimates suggest Russia will be sitting on a $40 billion surplus in Rupees.

Since the Rupee is practically worthless and can't be liquidated anywhere else (except back in India—but that $40 billion surplus is just stuck there), it basically looks like Russia is giving oil to Indians for free.

Of course, Russia would much rather settle up in Yuan, given their massive trade volume with China and likely much smaller surpluses there, but the Indians aren't crazy enough to trade using the currency of their biggest rival.

So, once again, sanctions are only making Russia stronger.

Maybe give that article another read, perhaps with a bit more focus on what it’s actually saying this time?

Let me break it down for you...

Moscow believes they will finish the year with an annual Rupee surplus exceeding 40 billion dollars, if such a mechanism were to be established

Shortly after the invasion of Ukraine last February, India began exploring ways to settle accounts with Russia using Rupees, but no agreements have actually been finalized in that currency yet...

We don't want to push for Rupee settlements anymore; the mechanism simply isn't working. India tried everything we could to make it happen, but it didn't help...

So, could you please clarify how they can "continue with this model" when, according to the very source you're quoting, they haven't even successfully implemented the model in the first place? It's all a bit confusing...

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