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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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amberjackal68 amberjackal68 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1041 ·
So, I’m hearing that Biden is out there asking Congress for another $3 billion to fund military aid for Ukraine. If this actually goes through, maybe—just maybe—_the_russians could be kept bleeding for a long, long time...
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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#1042 ·
Laura Scott7 said:Honestly, what’s the point of even posting this stuff? I’ve already dropped a bunch of videos showing how they're pushing forward on just about every front, but you know how it is—these folks brainwashed by Western propaganda are still sitting there convinced that Russia has lost 100,000 men and 2,000 tanks. They're living in a totally different reality.

I saw a few clips about the fighting near Lviv too.
If they actually made it that far, then I guess the Ukrainians might have been exaggerating a bit.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#1043 ·
neonheron9 said:https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...1fSGvTKkJLWceg

The Canadians are on board too... Russians are getting booted from SWIFT

In the age of Bitcoin, this whole thing is a joke, and honestly, it’s just going to trigger massive price hikes and inflation across Europe.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#1044 ·
Douglas Davis4 said:Our people are holding the line
Zelensky isn't interested in sitting at the negotiating table yet
The Ukrainians need more time to properly gear up and coordinate... meanwhile, the Russians have been training for months and rolled in high on adrenaline and ready for action
The Russians aren't going to get the easy win they expected

The Ukrainians actually managed to shut down those special forces trying to take the city—even the Russian minister admitted as much.

Heavy armor is just sitting out there waiting, though nobody’s even sure if they’re actually moving in. If they do, we all know what kind of "victory" that looks like.
Keith Williams3 Keith Williams3 Member
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#1045 ·
Betty Murphy3 said:Hitler was a fool, and his failure proves just how misplaced concepts like "Slavic," "Germanic," or "Roman" are in politics. These identities don't truly exist in that sense. By that flawed logic, we should all be against both Russians and Ukrainians simply because they aren't part of our specific faith or weren't part of the old Eastern Bloc—but that isn't how we view it. In reality, neither Russians nor Ukrainians have ever been seen by us as enemies or problematic outsiders.

Unfortunately, over the last century, Russia has been plagued by pathological leaders. In doing so, they are dismantling their own history, culture, and immense wealth—wealth that arguably exceeds anything in the West. But because of individuals like Putin, Russia cannot realize its potential; he can't rally anyone besides Belarus. It's tragic to witness Russia sabotaging its own future because of one degenerate individual.

Not to mention that Ukrainians, like any other nation, have had their share of dark chapters, yet we've never had an issue with them. They are the victims here. So, why would I take a side against them? This conflict between Russia and Ukraine isn't about defending the land of Orthodoxy or Slavic heritage; it's a collision of massive powers—primarily the US and its satellites versus Russia and its own. And it's obvious to everyone that Putin is in a far worse position than his six thousand henchmen. Why? As I explained earlier.

You cannot force allies to join you. That is the American way—as distasteful as their rhetoric regarding democracy and liberalism may be. They buy loyalty with capital. The Russians, however, expect everything and offer nothing. When the money runs out, everyone flees. Is it really any surprise that no one wants to be tied to a sinking ship?


All those cultural achievements and successes you mentioned happened when Russia was at its peak, back when they actually had a strong state and total control over their own territory.

Think about Dostoevsky, Tchaikovsky, Tolstoy, Mendeleev—those legends came from the height of the Russian Empire.

The industrial boom, the first satellite, the first man in space, being one of the two global superpowers... that was all during the peak of the USSR.

But what did Russia actually produce in the 1990s, aside from exporting cheap labor, scientists, and raw resources?

If Russia wants to share its culture and wealth with the world again, it needs to be secure and powerful, just like it was under the Russian Empire or the USSR.

That’s the version of Russia that Putin, many Russians, and even most people outside the country who support them actually want to see. Nobody is out here rooting for the 1990s version of Russia—a country that couldn't govern itself and felt totally insecure.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active Member
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#1046 ·
neonbison6 said:That Ukrainian grit is wide awake—the Russians aren't just going to stroll right in. Honestly, it reminds me of that sheer, stubborn confidence you saw from certain groups back at the start of the American Civil War.

Check out this video—there's an elderly Ukrainian man out there digging a trench right next to one of the main highways in Kyiv.


I know exactly where that is. It’s right here.

https://prnt.sc/EeqQoGq4XTxh

Watching this feels surreal. I was actually there just a few months ago.
Andrew Martinez8 Andrew Martinez8 Newcomer
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#1047 ·
I’m not exactly a supporter of Putin, but… 😂

Calling the NATO bombing of Mexico anything other than justified is just wrong. 😂
Terry Howard Terry Howard Active Member
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#1048 ·
Laura Scott7 said:Everything is going exactly according to the Russian playbook—they’ve basically got total air superiority at this point. Airports are already under control, resistance is looking pretty thin, and tanks are just cruising down the highways like they're out for a Sunday drive through the suburbs. Gaza is practically sitting there with a target on its back, wide open. Honestly, Ukraine doesn't stand a chance anymore, and it's pure madness for Zelenskyy to keep pushing this; he needs to just call it, surrender, and actually try to save what's left of his people's lives.

So, how's life treating you over there in Russia? Are you guys converting your daily wages into Bitcoin before the Ruble hits rock bottom?
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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#1049 ·
neonheron9 said:https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...1fSGvTKkJLWceg

The Canadians are on board too... Russians are getting booted from SWIFT

I’m guessing they spent the last few days figuring out how to soften the blow from this decision, and they found a way. Either that, or they just accepted that this move was inevitable. It probably didn't hurt that the Ukrainians stood their ground...
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#1050 ·
Gary Wilson said:I was just catching up on some RT coverage. It looks like the Russians are banking on the idea that they won't be kicked out of SWIFT—mostly because they're terrified oil prices will skyrocket if they are.

So, according to RT, the fear is that the rest of the world will stop paying premium prices for oil... fine. 👍
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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#1051 ·
Keith Williams3 said:All those cultural achievements and successes you mentioned happened when Russia was at its peak, back when they actually had a strong state and total control over their own territory.

Think about Dostoevsky, Tchaikovsky, Tolstoy, Mendeleev—those legends came from the height of the Russian Empire.

The industrial boom, the first satellite, the first man in space, being one of the two global superpowers... that was all during the peak of the USSR.

But what did Russia actually produce in the 1990s, aside from exporting cheap labor, scientists, and raw resources?

If Russia wants to share its culture and wealth with the world again, it needs to be secure and powerful, just like it was under the Russian Empire or the USSR.

That’s the version of Russia that Putin, many Russians, and even most people outside the country who support them actually want to see. Nobody is out here rooting for the 1990s version of Russia—a country that couldn't govern itself and felt totally insecure.

I guess that's why there aren't really any protests against Putin.
Once he takes over Ukraine, people will probably be celebrating him like he's some kind of hero.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#1052 ·
Alright, what’s the actual intel from the ground? Zelenskyy is claiming victory? I don't know where this sudden surge of optimism is coming from.
Denmark sent over some financial aid. 🤔 They have piles of weapons, but they can only afford to pay for foreign fighters.
Tyler Jones6 Tyler Jones6 Active Member
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#1053 ·
Laura Scott7 said:The Russian Army is slowly grinding forward at half speedhttps://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._the_russians/
I honestly don't get why some of these people are so desperate to ignore what's actually happening right in front of them, typing away about some massive Russian defeat like it's a done deal... a little reality check wouldn't hurt anyone. I was just listening to rt, and they're saying things are getting so messy that Ukraine doesn't even have full control over their own military anymore, with basically paramilitary groups and extremists running the show instead..

RT 🤣
Betty Carter3 Betty Carter3 Member
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#1054 ·
rustywalker1 said:


Better not wake a sleeping giant. ☕

This can't be a coincidence.
Yeah, right—because I guess Merkelica just doesn't know the map of Europe by heart.
neonpuma30 neonpuma30 Member
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#1055 ·
bluerider63 said:In the age of Bitcoin, this whole thing is a joke, and honestly, it’s just going to trigger massive price hikes and inflation across Europe.

Honestly, Bitcoin is just some mystery author's Ponzi scheme, and I'm calling it now: it’s gonna crash soon!
boldmarlin15 boldmarlin15 Member
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#1056 ·
Laura Scott7 said:The Russian Army is slowly grinding forward at half speedhttps://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._the_russians/
I honestly don't get why some of these people are so desperate to ignore what's actually happening right in front of them, typing away about some massive Russian defeat like it's a done deal... a little reality check wouldn't hurt anyone. I was just listening to rt, and they're saying things are getting so messy that Ukraine doesn't even have full control over their own military anymore, with basically paramilitary groups and extremists running the show instead..

The Russians could flatten all of Ukraine in an hour. No need to explain, we all know it.

But Vladimir Putin lost this war, and Ukraine and Ukrainians are going down in history as heroes.
frozencobra50 frozencobra50 Member
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#1057 ·
Laura Scott7 said:I mean, who else is going to flee into the middle of major cities and put civilians right in the crosshairs? That’s basically Military 101—you don't let the fighting get anywhere near urban centers, you definitely don't go running into them to use them as human shields. But sure, the second a shell hits a residential building, suddenly it's all the Russians' fault, right? Just do me a favor and actually check out some actual news sources like RT instead of just blathering on about what you *think* is happening. You can't just make stuff up and call it reality. It doesn't work that way.

So what, they were supposed to just surrender?
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#1058 ·
Charles Davis9 said:You're trolling way too obviously.🤦

He’s young. He lacks the necessary experience in this arena.
granitebison granitebison Newcomer
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#1059 ·
https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/st...41956318212097

A Russian convoy has been neutralized on the southern front.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#1060 ·
Maria Moore said:It looks like the Russians aren't even obsessed with holding ground; they just want a fast break straight to Kyiv. Even CNN and Fox News are reporting that they've practically surrounded the city already.

https://www.nytimes.com/news/ukraine-war-updates-15163143

"The goal for Russian forces is to encircle Kyiv. They’re using the same tactics they’re applying elsewhere in Ukraine. Basically, one of Russia's biggest priorities is avoiding street fighting in Ukrainian cities," explains military analyst Robert Barić to The New York Times.

See, if you just surround a city, you run the risk of turning it into a total siege disaster—sort of like what happened during the Siege of Ottawa back in the day. You end up having to let humanitarian convoys through, and launching a direct assault on the city itself becomes a massive gamble because the casualty rates would be astronomical. Plus, the Russians would face a PR nightmare on the global stage. If they go the encirclement route, they absolutely have to secure their own supply lines first. And let's be real—the Western part of Ukraine isn't just going to sit there and take this lying down.
Which means the Russians might just be staring down the barrel of a long, grueling war of attrition.

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