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A 4-year-old girl's question: Why does everyone need a name?

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Sarah Sanders2 Sarah Sanders2 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Donna Doyle2 said:Wouldn't it be fascinating if our names actually serve as a buffer that keeps us from truly experiencing the essence of other people? Is it possible that if we couldn't address anyone by name, we would be forced to actually experience them on a deeper level, or am I just overthinking it? It's almost like how words act as a barrier that prevents us from directly experiencing reality, don't you think?

If we had better senses, we'd just sniff each other out like dogs. Or if we could ditch verbal Communication entirely and just swap data through vibes—whether from across the room or face-to-face—we wouldn't need names. Though even those vibrations would probably carry some kind of ID. But yeah, we'd definitely be able to connect deeper without all the labels.
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#22 ·
Sarah Sanders2 said:You're overthinking this. Nobody said Communication is impossible without names, just that it gets significantly harder. Try going a month without using a single name. Delete every contact in your phone. Look at all the names on this forum and see if your life gets easier or more difficult.

If you've got three Ivannas at the office and the crew wants to gossip about "Ivanna," you've already narrowed it down from hundreds of employees to just three. From there, you use a last name or just say "Ivanna from HR" to clear up the confusion. If all three Ivannas share a last name and somehow all work in HR, then you move to physical identifiers: glasses, hair color, whatever. People think in categories. If your family is gossiping about your cousin Ivanna, you aren't going to confuse her with the Ivanna from your job because there's zero overlap.

Actually, I think it's the exact opposite... Just try following this thread and seeing if you can even tell who's replying to what.
Let me make it easy for you. Going in reverse order, obviously: 1, 2, 3, and finally, 4.
Harold Smith87 Harold Smith87 Member
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#23 ·
ironrider11 said:Actually, I think it's the exact opposite... Just try following this thread and seeing if you can even tell who's replying to what.
Let me make it easy for you. Going in reverse order, obviously: 1, 2, 3, and finally, 4.

Look, you explained it fine, I guess, but maybe you just need everything spelled out because you can't seem to connect the dots yourself. You can have Communication without IDs, sure, but it’s harder—it's limited. Honestly, if you look at it from an evolutionary standpoint, maybe we wouldn't even have it without names.
Communication basically started as a way to identify people, plan a hunt, and figure out who was doing what and where. That’s really the foundation of it all.
Even if we look at more primitive ways of communicating, like wolves, their Communication is used for identification about 90% of the time. They howl to call out, and they listen to figure out who's calling based on the sound.
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#24 ·
Harold Smith87 said:Look, you explained it fine, I guess, but maybe you just need everything spelled out because you can't seem to connect the dots yourself. You can have Communication without IDs, sure, but it’s harder—it's limited. Honestly, if you look at it from an evolutionary standpoint, maybe we wouldn't even have it without names.
Communication basically started as a way to identify people, plan a hunt, and figure out who was doing what and where. That’s really the foundation of it all.
Even if we look at more primitive ways of communicating, like wolves, their Communication is used for identification about 90% of the time. They howl to call out, and they listen to figure out who's calling based on the sound.

Let's look at those primitive forms of communication, since we might as well while we're at it...
If you're gonna look, you might as well go all the way. Just saying...

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