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rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#341 ·
Entire classrooms are being put into isolation despite the kids wearing their masks perfectly properly.
There’s zero explanation coming from either the school district or the local news.
They're just passing the buck while nobody bothers to answer any parents' questions.
slysurfer14 slysurfer14 Active Member
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#342 ·
rowdypanther12 said:Entire classrooms are being put into isolation despite the kids wearing their masks perfectly properly.
There’s zero explanation coming from either the school district or the local news.
They're just passing the buck while nobody bothers to answer any parents' questions.

When you're all sheep...
Do those masks even have some kind of certificate proving they protect against Covid?
Why aren't you people demanding to see them?
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#343 ·
rowdypanther12 said:Entire classrooms are being put into isolation despite the kids wearing their masks perfectly properly.
There’s zero explanation coming from either the school district or the local news.
They're just passing the buck while nobody bothers to answer any parents' questions.

Yeah. We already had an entire class put into quarantine here too. It happened because of one student testing positive. But the logic seems to be centered on people not wearing masks. Those few who have their vaccination cards are still attending classes with other grade levels.
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#344 ·
mellowskipper said:Yeah. We already had an entire class put into quarantine here too. It happened because of one student testing positive. But the logic seems to be centered on people not wearing masks. Those few who have their vaccination cards are still attending classes with other grade levels.

See, if you're vaccinated, you can just jump into a different section's lecture.🙏

Wait, how are they not wearing masks? How big is your classroom?

If the whole group is going to go remote, then honestly, let them skip the masks. Whatever, might as well get through this stuff as quickly as possible.
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#345 ·
Fair enough, that explains why they aren't wearing masks. But those who actually wear them are the ones getting hit by everything in
hiddendriver34 hiddendriver34 Regular
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#346 ·
I’m pretty sure that entire class finished their schoolwork for the whole week by Tuesday, because I saw the whole group hanging out together at the coffee shop right next to the high school.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#347 ·
Susan James said:See, if you're vaccinated, you can just jump into a different section's lecture.🙏

Wait, how are they not wearing masks? How big is your classroom?

If the whole group is going to go remote, then honestly, let them skip the masks. Whatever, might as well get through this stuff as quickly as possible.

This is about the specific grade level at our school, which is why they aren't wearing masks. It isn't my specific class, anyway.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#348 ·
hiddendriver34 said:I’m pretty sure that entire class finished their schoolwork for the whole week by Tuesday, because I saw the whole group hanging out together at the coffee shop right next to the high school.

I mean, was that actually an official ruling from the CDC?
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#349 ·
hiddendriver34 said:I’m pretty sure that entire class finished their schoolwork for the whole week by Tuesday, because I saw the whole group hanging out together at the coffee shop right next to the high school.

😂
It would be nice if someone from the restaurant industry finished up early too, rather than just the students! 🧐
Douglas Stewart53 Douglas Stewart53 Newcomer
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#350 ·
rowdypanther12 said:Entire classrooms are being put into isolation despite the kids wearing their masks perfectly properly.
There’s zero explanation coming from either the school district or the local news.
They're just passing the buck while nobody bothers to answer any parents' questions.

High schoolers are basically ignoring the rules. They either aren't wearing masks at all, or they wear them completely wrong—nose and mouth sticking out. If that's the case, what's the point? They'll pull a mask up just to get past the entrance, and then the circus begins. I don't know if those parents who claim they "saw everyone wearing masks in front of the school" realize what an average American high school classroom actually looks like. Masks come off at the first opportunity. In gym class, everyone is hanging out in the locker rooms without masks—an even tighter space than the classroom. They eat, they sing, they share drinks, they take selfies... when a teacher walks in, they shove a mask halfway onto their faces. As soon as the bell rings, the masks come right back down because not wearing one is "cool." That's how it works in high school. You don't see that in elementary school, where the kids might actually try to fit in by following the rules. In high school, being rebellious is the goal. I assume the epidemiologists realize this. It goes without saying for anything happening outside school grounds. There's zero logic in isolating students sitting left or right 😵 when they're constantly moving around anyway. Of course they're going to trigger isolations. Not only are they mixing within their own classes like they always have, but now different groups and electives are mixing too. What someone sees in front of the school building has absolutely nothing to do with what happens inside once the pack gets together.
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#351 ·
I'm just talking about elementary school.
but if they're going to tell everyone that kids will only be isolated if they're near an infected student, then they should either stick to that or actually follow through.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#352 ·
Douglas Stewart53 said:High schoolers are basically ignoring the rules. They either aren't wearing masks at all, or they wear them completely wrong—nose and mouth sticking out. If that's the case, what's the point? They'll pull a mask up just to get past the entrance, and then the circus begins. I don't know if those parents who claim they "saw everyone wearing masks in front of the school" realize what an average American high school classroom actually looks like. Masks come off at the first opportunity. In gym class, everyone is hanging out in the locker rooms without masks—an even tighter space than the classroom. They eat, they sing, they share drinks, they take selfies... when a teacher walks in, they shove a mask halfway onto their faces. As soon as the bell rings, the masks come right back down because not wearing one is "cool." That's how it works in high school. You don't see that in elementary school, where the kids might actually try to fit in by following the rules. In high school, being rebellious is the goal. I assume the epidemiologists realize this. It goes without saying for anything happening outside school grounds. There's zero logic in isolating students sitting left or right 😵 when they're constantly moving around anyway. Of course they're going to trigger isolations. Not only are they mixing within their own classes like they always have, but now different groups and electives are mixing too. What someone sees in front of the school building has absolutely nothing to do with what happens inside once the pack gets together.

The "cool factor" doesn't really apply to masks anymore. My daughter, who can barely stand it, called me during a short break last week because she was struggling to breathe under her mask and had a headache. Naturally, I told her if she absolutely has to wear it, she should at least pull it up over her nose. Anyway, she's in 7th grade.
Rebecca Clark6 Rebecca Clark6 Member
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#353 ·
I honestly don't see how they expected to track individual contact if all the kids are grouped together during breaks anyway, so at that point, it doesn't really matter who sits where. Plus, since the entire class will likely end up in isolation together, there's no real reason for the older students to be wearing masks, let alone worrying about wearing them perfectly like this.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#354 ·
Rebecca Clark6 said:I honestly don't see how they expected to track individual contact if all the kids are grouped together during breaks anyway, so at that point, it doesn't really matter who sits where. Plus, since the entire class will likely end up in isolation together, there's no real reason for the older students to be wearing masks, let alone worrying about wearing them perfectly like this.

Of course that stopped making sense a long time ago...
coastalorca43 coastalorca43 Active Member
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#355 ·
rowdypanther12 said:Entire classrooms are being put into isolation despite the kids wearing their masks perfectly properly.
There’s zero explanation coming from either the school district or the local news.
They're just passing the buck while nobody bothers to answer any parents' questions.

Parents aren't even being notified. My child is currently in isolation, yet I haven't received a single notification regarding the quarantine order or any official decision from the CDC.
mellowskipper said:Yeah. We already had an entire class put into quarantine here too. It happened because of one student testing positive. But the logic seems to be centered on people not wearing masks. Those few who have their vaccination cards are still attending classes with other grade levels.

They’re cramming entire classrooms into Special Instruction, regardless of whether the kids are vaccinated or have already recovered. It feels like a total setup—epidemiologists are demanding Covid certificates, which makes me wonder if they're just playing games by sending some kids to SI without proof while everyone else stays in regular school. Or maybe they're just compiling lists to push vaccinations on more children. Out of a class of 28, only about 14% are vaccinated; I bet there are plenty of furious parents out there vaccinating their kids just because they end up in Special Instruction either way.
They definitely gave it a fresh coat of paint.
Douglas Stewart53 said:High schoolers are basically ignoring the rules. They either aren't wearing masks at all, or they wear them completely wrong—nose and mouth sticking out. If that's the case, what's the point? They'll pull a mask up just to get past the entrance, and then the circus begins. I don't know if those parents who claim they "saw everyone wearing masks in front of the school" realize what an average American high school classroom actually looks like. Masks come off at the first opportunity. In gym class, everyone is hanging out in the locker rooms without masks—an even tighter space than the classroom. They eat, they sing, they share drinks, they take selfies... when a teacher walks in, they shove a mask halfway onto their faces. As soon as the bell rings, the masks come right back down because not wearing one is "cool." That's how it works in high school. You don't see that in elementary school, where the kids might actually try to fit in by following the rules. In high school, being rebellious is the goal. I assume the epidemiologists realize this. It goes without saying for anything happening outside school grounds. There's zero logic in isolating students sitting left or right 😵 when they're constantly moving around anyway. Of course they're going to trigger isolations. Not only are they mixing within their own classes like they always have, but now different groups and electives are mixing too. What someone sees in front of the school building has absolutely nothing to do with what happens inside once the pack gets together.

Nobody even bothers with masks anymore once you step away from the crowded spots. They're either gone or just sitting on someone's chin.
There's really no need to single out the kids.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#356 ·
coastalorca43 said:Parents aren't even being notified. My child is currently in isolation, yet I haven't received a single notification regarding the quarantine order or any official decision from the CDC.

They’re cramming entire classrooms into Special Instruction, regardless of whether the kids are vaccinated or have already recovered. It feels like a total setup—epidemiologists are demanding Covid certificates, which makes me wonder if they're just playing games by sending some kids to SI without proof while everyone else stays in regular school. Or maybe they're just compiling lists to push vaccinations on more children. Out of a class of 28, only about 14% are vaccinated; I bet there are plenty of furious parents out there vaccinating their kids just because they end up in Special Instruction either way.
They definitely gave it a fresh coat of paint.

Nobody even bothers with masks anymore once you step away from the crowded spots. They're either gone or just sitting on someone's chin.
There's really no need to single out the kids.

My kid is still in elementary school, so currently, only the kids who actually recovered from Covid have those passes, not the vaccinated ones. Maybe some are vaccinated, but honestly, I really don't know.
Michelle Nelson4 Michelle Nelson4 Regular
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#357 ·
It feels like some people here have thousands of posts, yet they act like they just landed from Mars. It’s been over for a long time; anyone who has recovered or been vaccinated isn't heading to intensive care. Besides, the standard protocol is for an epidemiologist to mandate isolation for the classroom, with a note stating that anyone providing proof of recovery or vaccination (which is a relatively recent update) can step forward to receive an exemption.
Robin Anderson44 Robin Anderson44 Newcomer
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#358 ·
God, what a complete circus this is, another year just flushed down the toilet in
fadedranger162 fadedranger162 Active Member
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#359 ·
slyfox43 said:It’s all the same slow slide... grain by grain, you end up with a total collapse from social cohesion to complete isolation, especially after a pandemic. It's just how things go.

There is an interesting phenomenon when you walk through residential neighborhoods in a place like Washington, D.C.—though I suppose it’s much the same in most major American cities. The common areas, the building facades, the shared courtyards—they all look like neglected ghettos because nobody wants to sink money into them. I was explaining this to my wife, who was looking at it with a bit of dismay, noting that once you step inside, most of the individual apartments are actually beautifully maintained. It seems to me that this specific attitude toward the collective is quite common among Americans, and you can see the fallout in how people react to the very idea of looking out for their neighbors.

Of course, there are exceptions, and I'm sure they exist in plenty, though likely never enough.

I think you missed the point there. "Antisocial" isn't a sliding scale leading to more antisocial behavior, because—get this—by definition, antisocial people don't hang out with society in the first place. So, for them, there's no such thing as a pandemic.

It’s the "social" crowd who rushed out to get their shots just so they could get back to partying and ignore the rules entirely...
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#360 ·
rowdypanther12 said:I'm just talking about elementary school.
but if they're going to tell everyone that kids will only be isolated if they're near an infected student, then they should either stick to that or actually follow through.

Think about it—you’d have a teacher or a homeroom instructor who’d essentially have to take the heat for naming "Student A" and "Student B" just because they sat closest to someone testing positive. Without having to dig through every single lesson plan or grading sheet, how many teachers do you honestly think would step up and pick two specific kids? Instead, they’ll likely just invite a parent into the mix—one parent who refuses to let their child go into remote learning, versus five others who are desperate for it because their kid didn't make the cut for some selective program.

On the flip side, we spent the entire last school year hearing about constant infections, yet high schools saw a massive wave of positive cases.
There must be a significant number of people who have been vaccinated; otherwise, the local health officials would have been panicking on these forums all year long. Remember, the vaccinated group includes those with probable infections who haven't even taken a test yet, plus those using rapid tests. I’ve heard about plenty of vaccinated high schoolers, not just the 16+ crowd.

So, picture this: out of 25 students, 15 are vaccinated and 5 are not. Most don't even need to switch to remote learning. Are we really going to hold online classes just because of those 5? They might not have even been near the infected student, and they're probably wearing masks anyway.
In my opinion, that's only an issue if a teacher personally prefers teaching online and is pushing for it.

If the majority of the class is moving to remote learning, then sure, everyone goes online.
Though, if you ask me, kids could actually use the exposure right now. It’s still sunny and warm outside, so they can spend plenty of time outdoors. Plus, they’ve built up their Vitamin D levels over the summer, and vaccines are still doing their job for the elderly. It feels a bit silly to force them into isolation and keep them cooped up at home—who are we actually protecting? Is it just the ones who are hesitant about the vaccine?
Maybe just give them two days of isolation, run a quick test, and send them back to school.

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