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Round 6 Elections: Let's hear your thoughts...

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Participants steelridge58James Lee77hiddeneagle98Amanda Jackson5Joseph Murphy10David Robinson26Terry Martinez10lonegardenerSandra Murphy33Amy BennettKyle Nelson2Amanda Flores88gentlerider7Eric Newman75placidorca6ruggedraven36
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#141 ·
David Robinson26 said:To whom?

The topic was centered on who I would direct my questions toward—myself included. Consequently, my response remained strictly within those parameters.
If you find that life holds no value for you, then what is the purpose of living it at all?
There is a "cure," if you will.

Look, the bottom line was that it's not the fact that things end that makes life worth living—it's not about life being meaningless, either. I thought I made that perfectly clear, but apparently, I didn't.
David Robinson26 David Robinson26 Member
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#142 ·
gentlerider7 said:Look, the bottom line was that it's not the fact that things end that makes life worth living—it's not about life being meaningless, either. I thought I made that perfectly clear, but apparently, I didn't.

Since this topic doesn't demand objectivity, it certainly shouldn't be held to an objective standard of value or purpose.
To put it more simply, diamonds hold value (for me, for you, or anyone else) precisely because they are scarce. If we possessed them in infinite supply, they would become utterly worthless.
steelridge58 steelridge58 RegularOP
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#143 ·
David Robinson26 said:Is anyone actually alive in here?

"Just tell me now so I can go ahead and end it all if the answer is no"
😁
steelridge58 steelridge58 RegularOP
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#144 ·
Poll is officially live, so feel free to jump in and cast your votes...

(sorry for being a little late on this one)
David Robinson26 David Robinson26 Member
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#145 ·
steelridge58 said:"Just tell me now so I can go ahead and end it all if the answer is no"
😁

I suppose I took a bit of a cheeky approach to this myself.
When I went back to review the predispositions, point number four aligned perfectly with my own perspective on the matter.
It mentions that one shouldn't view the "subject" through a religious lens, which implies that an afterlife isn't necessarily assumed to be eternal.

That is precisely why I appreciate Oakhaven so much—and why I value your response.
Amanda Jackson5 Amanda Jackson5 Regular
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#146 ·
As Robert Torre puts it, the real question isn't whether there’s anything waiting for us on the other side, but rather whether we’re actually living while we're still here.
Joseph Murphy10 Joseph Murphy10 Active Member
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#147 ·
Done messing around with him, I guess.
Just a little Rascal acting like some young Hegel follower
Amanda Jackson5 Amanda Jackson5 Regular
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#148 ·
Joseph Murphy10 said:Done messing around with him, I guess.
Just a little Rascal acting like some young Hegel follower

That whole thing was simmering under the surface the entire time. 😁
Everyone else just failed to notice it.
Amanda Jackson5 Amanda Jackson5 Regular
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#149 ·
By the way, Hegel didn't spend much time rambling on about death. As far as I can tell, the only thing he ever really said about it was that death represents a "real danger to man." Whatever that’s supposed to mean.
Joseph Murphy10 Joseph Murphy10 Active Member
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#150 ·
Yeah steelridge58, we gotta die to truly live...

Just to be a little petty and give Amanda Jackson5 a hard time—honestly, Saint Paul left us some pretty deep thoughts on this exact thing. Like, check out his letter to the Romans (Romans 14:7-9)... "For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; if we die, we die for the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this very reason, Christ died and was raised again, to be Lord of both the dead and the living."
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#151 ·
Amanda Jackson5 said:By the way, Hegel didn't spend much time rambling on about death. As far as I can tell, the only thing he ever really said about it was that death represents a "real danger to man." Whatever that’s supposed to mean.

Sounds pretty deep—and since I haven't even cracked a Hegel book yet, it feels like it’s tied to how he defines a human being within a logical framework. My gut tells me he isn't talking about "humanity" in some broad, fuzzy sense, but rather something very specific to his context. If that's the case, the whole sentence makes sense if "death" refers to breaking the continuity of that process where a person actually becomes "human" in a conceptual way...

but look, I haven't read him, I don't know his style or how his brain works, so I can't really weigh in properly.
steelridge58 steelridge58 RegularOP
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#152 ·
I voted for

Joseph Murphy10 - those opening lines just hit me right in the gut; they were so spontaneous and rawly honest, almost painfully sincere.
(It’s that kind of personal, vibrant touch that really gives a conversation its soul and makes it feel human—just pure sentiment.)
I also really connected with the logic in the second half, especially the idea that we shouldn't change who we are just because of some sudden decision, along with that beautiful point about overcoming our own limits.

march28 - that response pointed out how the truly vital things are actually the "unimportant" ones—the mundane, everyday moments we share with the people we love,
those tiny, little things that actually make a life worth living.
It felt like one of those rare, unrepeatable experiences you'd give anything to relive if you could.

James Lee77 - in one of his comments, he mentioned
that "you won't be asking for directions once you reach your destination," so providing an answer that acts as a bridge between the journey and the goal shows such incredible consistency to the path itself,
giving it real integrity.

David Robinson26, that was a good move (even if it feels a bit paradoxical when you're talking about the afterlife) to pose a question back as an answer to the topic at hand. 🙂

Weekend Warrior - provided a great sense of direction.

Sandra Murphy33 - I found myself rereading her entire response over and over again.
It was just so optimistic.

Hekatonkheires - what a clever response; there's enough depth there to build an entire story based on it, perhaps as a dialogue.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
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#153 ·
Amanda Jackson5 said:As Robert Torre puts it, the real question isn't whether there’s anything waiting for us on the other side, but rather whether we’re actually living while we're still here.

None 😁
James Lee77 James Lee77 Active Member
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#154 ·
Amanda Jackson5 said:As Robert Torre puts it, the real question isn't whether there’s anything waiting for us on the other side, but rather whether we’re actually living while we're still here.

The real question is, does life even matter if there’s nothing waiting for us on the other side? I mean, back when we were all immortal souls, we hung around for thousands of years—ever since we were just civilized monkeys—so two hundred years feels like a blink of an eye, I guess. Maybe.
lonegardener said:None 😁

Q.E.D.
Joseph Murphy10 Joseph Murphy10 Active Member
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#155 ·
James Lee77 said:The real question is, does life even matter if there’s nothing waiting for us on the other side? I mean, back when we were all immortal souls, we hung around for thousands of years—ever since we were just civilized monkeys—so two hundred years feels like a blink of an eye, I guess. Maybe.

Q.E.D.

Bravo! Now that’s the only comment worth reading. Time is an absolute void, my friend, a total void!
ruggedraven36 ruggedraven36 Regular
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#156 ·
There’s no such thing as a real life—not before death and certainly not after—unless we actually have a decent, humane social order to live in.
steelridge58 steelridge58 RegularOP
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#157 ·
If this whole current order actually holds up, Sandra Murphy33, you better start cooking up a brand new question for us

🙂
steelridge58 steelridge58 RegularOP
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#158 ·
Sandra Murphy33

🙂

A huge congrats to you!!

I guess we’re tied on points, but since I was the one who originally kicked this whole thing off with my question, I'll give you the edge here.

Would you mind doing us a huge favor and coming up with a brand new question for us all?
Sandra Murphy33 Sandra Murphy33 Active Member
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#159 ·
Aha 🙂
Thanks

I’d like to pose the one question actually worth asking right now (honestly, nothing else is coming to mind...) and that is: what is it that everyone on this forum fears most? I mean it—describe your deepest, most paralyzing fear, for those of you who actually know what it is and aren't too afraid to share it....

(And if this question doesn't pass muster because it isn't "philosophical" enough or whatever, steelridge58, feel free to come up with something else 😛 )
steelridge58 steelridge58 RegularOP
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#160 ·
Yeah

Awesome!

I'm gonna go ahead and set this up

🙂)

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