Republican Party - General Discussion

crimsonwolf26 said:I honestly don't get why minority representatives and the Democratic Party are still sticking by a party that has been legally convicted of criminal activity.
Would Tom Emmer, acting as the Mayor of Des Moines, ever dream of hiring someone with a criminal record to handle any kind of business operations within the city limits?

You’re mixing up your metaphors. It wasn't Hrebak doing the hiring—it was others doing the hiring of Hrebak... 😁

Terry Hernandez10 said:The Republican Party compared the opposition's protest in Congress to the storming of the Capitol by Trump's supporters
They shared photos of the opposition inside Congress alongside shots of Trump's followers at the Capitol

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Did any opposition representative smear paint on their face or wear horns on their head during this? Were there undercover FBI agents egging lawmakers on to stay late in Congress?

dustymarlin10 said:Totally.
It's pathetic how people try to protest just by staying home on election day.

Though, you really have to wonder who is even worth voting for half the time.
I still haven't gotten over how much that coalition let everyone down back in the day, especially with the total incompetence shown by guys like Joe Lieberman and Bill Clinton.

People don't just forget when they've been played, right?

Look, I totally get the frustration, but I don't get why you'd let it eat at you so much that you just sit back and let others decide your future without picking up the scissors yourself. It’s just not smart.
It’s not like I’ve gone to every single election with total enthusiasm. Sometimes I have, but other times it was just about choosing the lesser of two evils or voting against someone.
At the end of the day, if there isn't a perfect choice, you're stuck with whatever political options are left. Honestly, whenever I unroll that massive ballot, I feel like the little desk at my old school wasn't even big enough to lay it out flat. You really see everything on there—thieves, liars, people who are completely detached from reality, true believers, and naive kids... everyone from the far left to the far right...
And when you look through hundreds of names and can't find a single decent option worth trusting? That actually says more about the system where nobody is good enough.
And those are usually the people who end up being the loudest when it comes to complaining and criticizing everything.

We had some pretty incredible options.
I honestly can't regret the fact that Ava Karabatić didn't become the President of the USA.

Sure—it would have been a massive moment in history:

https://www.facebook.com/avapredsjednicarh/

It would’ve been great entertainment for all of us, even if nothing substantial actually changed.

Then again, aren't we supposed to be living in a democracy?
Maybe we're just a type of democracy that didn't deserve someone like Ava Karabatić.

hollowmason64 said:Look, I totally get the frustration, but I don't get why you'd let it eat at you so much that you just sit back and let others decide your future without picking up the scissors yourself. It’s just not smart.
It’s not like I’ve gone to every single election with total enthusiasm. Sometimes I have, but other times it was just about choosing the lesser of two evils or voting against someone.
At the end of the day, if there isn't a perfect choice, you're stuck with whatever political options are left. Honestly, whenever I unroll that massive ballot, I feel like the little desk at my old school wasn't even big enough to lay it out flat. You really see everything on there—thieves, liars, people who are completely detached from reality, true believers, and naive kids... everyone from the far left to the far right...
And when you look through hundreds of names and can't find a single decent option worth trusting? That actually says more about the system where nobody is good enough.
And those are usually the people who end up being the loudest when it comes to complaining and criticizing everything.

You're generalizing.
They definitely talk to me, and I vote for those kinds of people too.
I think I've only ever missed one election in my entire life.
It's just that most of the time, those types don't even make it to office, so the Criminal Party ends up running things again anyway.

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imbex is calling out the Republican Party,

The Republican Party is basically a criminal enterprise. Just look at how much they've stolen.
Ilko Ćimić

Once they realized they’d been caught red-handed, it was really just a matter of when they’d try to salvage what's left of their reputation as the leading opposition news site. It's a total disgrace to actual journalism 😉

Edward Lee7 said:imbex is calling out the Republican Party,

The Republican Party is basically a criminal enterprise. Just look at how much they've stolen.
Ilko Ćimić

If you start listing all their biggest scandals, I have to admit, seeing them all piled up like this is pretty unsettling....
Where do you even start with the small-time crooks? Rezoning land from rural to residential, little sweetheart deals, tweaking laws to suit themselves, housing buyouts, rigging subsidies and whatnot. I could go on forever....
And don't even get me started on the nineties and the privatization era—so much national wealth just vanished into thin air...🤦
Plus, why aren't we talking about the forestry scandals?!

No doubt about it, quite an impressive track record ☕

The sheep will never open their eyes
Honestly, at this point, it might be best to just pack up and move out of this country
I think I’m done following the daily political circus altogether
I mean, looking back over the last thirty years, what have these politicians actually achieved for the people? Absolutely nothing

How many of them actually ended up behind bars for their crimes? Was it just Sanders, or did anyone else get caught?

I can’t help but picture a scenario where a figure like Marshall suddenly reappears and just tosses all these criminals into prison—or worse, buries them in mass graves. I wonder if, thirty years down the line, we'd see the same old myth circulating again about how "innocent patriots" were persecuted.

dustymarlin10 said:You're generalizing.
They definitely talk to me, and I vote for those kinds of people too.
I think I've only ever missed one election in my entire life.
It's just that most of the time, those types don't even make it to office, so the Criminal Party ends up running things again anyway.

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It doesn't really matter if they win or lose. What matters is that you showed up, cast your ballot, and did your part. If everyone—or at least most of the folks sitting on their couches right now—actually did the same, maybe your candidate would actually have a shot. A lot of people get caught up in this flawed logic where they think, "Oh, they don't have a chance anyway," which is totally backwards because that exact mindset is why they stay home and skip the polls.
Regardless of how your candidate performs or what the final tally looks like, you still need to show up. You always should.

You’re pushing for higher voter turnout, yet you’re simultaneously against online voting? That doesn't quite add up.

Both the Republican Party and the Democrats have stood together, acting like brothers, to reject such an option in the US Congress.

Two different parties, but they move as one...

On another note, isn't it interesting how $2 million just vanished with a single stroke of a pen due to a court ruling? Truly beautiful justice.

cosmiccyclist8 said:How many of them actually ended up behind bars for their crimes? Was it just Sanders, or did anyone else get caught?

I can’t help but picture a scenario where a figure like Marshall suddenly reappears and just tosses all these criminals into prison—or worse, buries them in mass graves. I wonder if, thirty years down the line, we'd see the same old myth circulating again about how "innocent patriots" were persecuted.

If you simply round up people you dislike and send them to a firing squad or drop them into a gas chamber, you aren't practicing justice. You aren't even attempting it. It doesn't matter if some of those individuals actually committed crimes; once you abandon the process, the "why" becomes irrelevant. That is an entirely different matter from proving someone’s guilt in a court of law through evidence—ensuring that what they did was illegal at the time it occurred, without the absurdity of retroactive laws. For any system to work, the law must be applied equally to everyone, not cherry-picked when it suits a specific agenda. A court requires legitimacy to hold any authority at all. There are numerous prerequisites required to give a legal process its foundation. The tragedy here is that we actually possess all these institutions; they simply lack the functionality to work. And because they fail us, people like you begin calling for "solutions" like mass graves.

Peter Sanders4 said:You’re pushing for higher voter turnout, yet you’re simultaneously against online voting? That doesn't quite add up.

Both the Republican Party and the Democrats have stood together, acting like brothers, to reject such an option in the US Congress.

Two different parties, but they move as one...

On another note, isn't it interesting how $2 million just vanished with a single stroke of a pen due to a court ruling? Truly beautiful justice.

I find the idea of online voting somewhat redundant. Our current system already offers broad accessibility to the electorate. Perhaps implementing digital options could boost turnout among expats, but let’s be honest: that demographic has largely checked out of the American political process. Or perhaps it's the other way around—the government has simply stopped caring about them. Even if we did move toward online voting, it wouldn't solve the recurring spectacle of those buses full of voters flying back into the states just for election season, hoping to pocket a few bucks and maybe snag some free SDO perks.

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Of course turnout would increase. Personally, I manage to make it out about 50% of the time. Sometimes I'm out of town, sometimes I just can't be bothered to drive 1.5 miles from my house, or maybe I've got a BBQ going that day. It would also cut down on the chances of people faking their participation.

Peter Sanders4 said:offtopic apology

Of course turnout would increase. Personally, I manage to make it out about 50% of the time. Sometimes I'm out of town, sometimes I just can't be bothered to drive 1.5 miles from my house, or maybe I've got a BBQ going that day. It would also cut down on the chances of people faking their participation.

Polling stations are open all day—twelve hours straight. You’d have to be making excuses just to claim you didn't make it in time. The people who stay home (which is nearly half the electorate) don't skip out because they can't physically reach the precinct—election officials actually go out to find them in those cases—they skip out as a form of protest. And yet, that specific group holds the power to swing any election if they simply decided to show up.
As for rigging the vote, I don't see how that works under the current system. It's easy enough to imagine several ways an online voting system could be compromised. Right now, polling boards consist of representatives from different political parties, and the chairmen are non-partisan; I don't see much incentive for anyone to "help" a candidate without getting caught.

I'm sorry, but you're mistaken on every count here and defending the indefensible. I won't drag this out any further, though, since we're drifting off-topic.

I’m struggling to wrap my head around one little thing here... What excuses are the Republicans actually using to dodge an apology? I must have missed it entirely. And honestly, even Joe Biden doesn't have the right to stay silent—even if he wasn't a member of the Republican Party back then—because he was right there in the inner circle alongside the cabinet members.
If they truly believe an apology isn't necessary, then fine—let them just hand back every single piece of real estate owned by the Republican Party, since they seem to be disowning them in practice. I can only imagine the total cognitive dissonance happening in those Republican heads: on one hand, you have Ronald Reagan and the glory days of the nineties; on the other, everything supposedly went south once Joe Biden took charge, perhaps starting at that Democratic Party convention where Joe Biden spoke about the party being held hostage by one man.

An apology is essentially an admission of guilt, which inevitably leads to bad press. I see why they made that call. It was the right move.

Peter Sanders4 said:An apology is essentially an admission of guilt, which inevitably leads to bad press. I see why they made that call. It was the right move.

Not really. Everyone who votes for the Republican Party is going to keep voting for them regardless. You could convict them for the most heinous crimes in the Penal Code and it wouldn't matter. It's just like any other cult—the followers stick by their leader even when he's accused of the most depraved things imaginable. An apology gives them everything to gain and nothing to lose. Especially since the guy they love a leader was technically just a high-ranking official, not even a formal party member during the whole mess. He was "just" a Under Secretary... basically second tier...