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Dealing with a difficult female coworker

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Participants Gary MyersSam Wright21Nancy Booth2cosmicdriver42Emily Morgan3Jacob Harris3hiddenbadger14George Davis3Zachary Mendoza2David Torres87Anthony Stewart5wanderingdriver17Jesse Barnes69Jessica Miller51Austin Murphy5Harold Palmer2Kyle Watson35
Jesse Barnes69 Jesse Barnes69 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Gary Myers said:When I share ideas, it’s not about getting her blessing. It’s about reaching an informal agreement on a workflow I think would be faster and easier—basically just being more efficient without dragging upper management into everything. Our department doesn't have a direct supervisor; the CEO basically oversees all departments at once.

I’m not looking for a best friend. I’m just looking for a tolerable work environment. I don't want to feel this knot in my stomach every morning wondering if she’s going to snap at me or run to the boss over some random nonsense.

Honestly, I don't care about the gossip. But who she is *does* matter to me when she uses me as a punching bag for her frustrations. We don't need to be buddies, but I shouldn't have to be her emotional dumping ground.😉

Good call. 🙂

The gossip and the interruptions aren't why I'd report her. It's the screaming. She yells so loud you can hear it through closed doors in the next rooms over. People from those offices used to wander over just to see what the hell was happening. Even when people are actually stuck in the room with her, they look uncomfortable, and afterward, some of them pull me aside to say she's just not right. 🙂 That's why I'm posting here. Trying to handle this atmosphere for 8 hours a day is getting to me. I can already feel my composure slipping.
And word is, I'm doing most of the department's heavy lifting anyway.

👍

Even during those quiet periods, we barely speak. I just drink my coffee while I work.

That feels like the core issue right there. There’s zero oversight, so nobody actually knows who is responsible for what or how much work is getting done. You're basically just left to fend for yourselves.

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Anthony Stewart5 Anthony Stewart5 Member
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#22 ·
Gary Myers said:When I share ideas, it’s not about getting her blessing. It’s about reaching an informal agreement on a workflow I think would be faster and easier—basically just being more efficient without dragging upper management into everything. Our department doesn't have a direct supervisor; the CEO basically oversees all departments at once.

I’m not looking for a best friend. I’m just looking for a tolerable work environment. I don't want to feel this knot in my stomach every morning wondering if she’s going to snap at me or run to the boss over some random nonsense.

Honestly, I don't care about the gossip. But who she is *does* matter to me when she uses me as a punching bag for her frustrations. We don't need to be buddies, but I shouldn't have to be her emotional dumping ground.😉

Good call. 🙂

The gossip and the interruptions aren't why I'd report her. It's the screaming. She yells so loud you can hear it through closed doors in the next rooms over. People from those offices used to wander over just to see what the hell was happening. Even when people are actually stuck in the room with her, they look uncomfortable, and afterward, some of them pull me aside to say she's just not right. 🙂 That's why I'm posting here. Trying to handle this atmosphere for 8 hours a day is getting to me. I can already feel my composure slipping.
And word is, I'm doing most of the department's heavy lifting anyway.

👍

Even during those quiet periods, we barely speak. I just drink my coffee while I work.

You are a grown, adult woman.
Why on earth do you allow someone to yell at you like that?

Just put a stop to it—what exactly are you afraid of?
Or, quite simply, just walk out of the room.

I am not one for offering unsolicited advice, and I would say you should tell her exactly what you think of her behavior—since her actions say everything about her and nothing about you—but I am certainly in favor of you standing up for yourself.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#23 ·
Gary Myers said:I started this job at the beginning of the year. It’s not high-stress, and I could see myself sticking with it long-term since it's actually somewhat interesting. The downside is that I'm officially classified as having just a high school diploma, so my pay reflects that, even though I have a college degree.

The issue is my cubicle mate. Ever since I joined, the vibe in our workspace has been "heavy"—if I can even find a better word for it. When I first started, she wouldn't even talk to me for the first couple of weeks. She’d only speak up when we needed to coordinate tasks. She told me straight up that I was the fourth new hire in a single month and she just didn't have the patience left for anyone else.

In the months since, it's been a cycle. One minute she's taking her frustrations out on me, the next she's venting at a few other people. It's hard to listen to, especially because she calls them names—not to their faces, obviously, but once they leave the room or hang up the phone. She's constantly criticizing. Because of all this, the atmosphere in our office has never felt relaxed.

During the "quiet" phases—when she's directing her anger toward others instead of me—we occasionally chat, but even then, you can feel the tension. We never actually laugh together.

She mentioned once that she's open to new ideas, but I get the feeling she actually hates it when someone suggests one. Once, she shut down an idea I had, calling it useless. I dropped it. Then, a while later, she brought up the exact same idea herself, acting like it was some brilliant concept and wondering why I hadn't thought of it.

I’m almost never included in conversations with the staff members she actually gets along with. When they come into our room, they’ll duck into another office to whisper or just close the door. And if I try to strike up a casual conversation with them, she’ll often cut me off, even though she wasn't even acknowledging my existence two hours prior.
Mostly, she only talks to them when she's gossiping about people she doesn't like.

Day by day, I'm finding it harder and harder to show up to work. I'm stuck...

It’s actually quite telling—if you think about it, she’s managed to drive three people out the door in just thirty days.

Your only real option is to show some backbone, even if being confrontational isn't exactly your natural way of operating. When she starts one of her outbursts, you need to raise your voice just enough to let her know that her behavior is completely unacceptable.

And when the office gossip starts swirling, you should make it clear that you're there to do a job, not to participate in some high school drama circle.

Basically, you have to be willing to ruffle some feathers...

But honestly, even then, things probably won't improve much. Spending eight hours a day in the presence of someone that toxic is an exhausting ordeal, whether you're at the office or anywhere else.
Gary Myers Gary Myers NewcomerOP
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#24 ·
wanderingdriver17 said:Classic workplace bullying.

In a functional legal system, you'd file a lawsuit and she'd be fired on the spot.

Around here, you basically have two choices: find a new job or just suck it up.
It sounds like this is a government job, which usually means everyone is just coasting, so you'll probably end up choosing the second option.

Yeah, sure, the tension is exhausting every single day, but hey, at least the paycheck is steady and the workload is light...
Gross.

Look, I’ve been looking for a new job for ages, but bills don't pay themselves and I can't exactly live on thin air. That's why I started this thread—to see if anyone actually has some decent advice.
Emily Morgan3 Emily Morgan3 Newcomer
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#25 ·
Look, you don't have much room to move here. In government agencies, things get toxic fast because of negative selection—the culture is just broken. If you try to report her for bullying, honestly? You’ll probably be the one getting chewed out instead of her.
She isn't going to change, period. It doesn't matter if you play nice or if you give her some attitude; she’s staying exactly who she is.
The one thing you absolutely have to do, though, is this: next time she starts raising her voice, shut her down immediately. Don't let her talk to you like that. Just cut the conversation off right then and there and walk away until the old lady cools her jets.
David Torres87 David Torres87 Member
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joined Oct 2019
#26 ·
I’ve dealt with my fair share of harassment from someone in the private sector—or what the clueless types call the "real world." You can't exactly fire people like that; they’re too close to retirement and still pull in some numbers, so nobody cares that they’re poisoning the culture or targeting younger women. It’s not just about being a corporate drone. In some larger US corporations with rigid hierarchies, workplace bullying is a massive issue.
Gary Myers Gary Myers NewcomerOP
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#27 ·
Sam Wright21 said:It’s actually quite telling—if you think about it, she’s managed to drive three people out the door in just thirty days.

Your only real option is to show some backbone, even if being confrontational isn't exactly your natural way of operating. When she starts one of her outbursts, you need to raise your voice just enough to let her know that her behavior is completely unacceptable.

And when the office gossip starts swirling, you should make it clear that you're there to do a job, not to participate in some high school drama circle.

Basically, you have to be willing to ruffle some feathers...

But honestly, even then, things probably won't improve much. Spending eight hours a day in the presence of someone that toxic is an exhausting ordeal, whether you're at the office or anywhere else.

Can't say if she was really the reason or not. I haven't had a chance to catch up with them about it.
Jessica Miller51 Jessica Miller51 Member
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joined Sep 2019
#28 ·
Gary Myers said:I started this job at the beginning of the year. It’s not high-stress, and I could see myself sticking with it long-term since it's actually somewhat interesting. The downside is that I'm officially classified as having just a high school diploma, so my pay reflects that, even though I have a college degree.

The issue is my cubicle mate. Ever since I joined, the vibe in our workspace has been "heavy"—if I can even find a better word for it. When I first started, she wouldn't even talk to me for the first couple of weeks. She’d only speak up when we needed to coordinate tasks. She told me straight up that I was the fourth new hire in a single month and she just didn't have the patience left for anyone else.

In the months since, it's been a cycle. One minute she's taking her frustrations out on me, the next she's venting at a few other people. It's hard to listen to, especially because she calls them names—not to their faces, obviously, but once they leave the room or hang up the phone. She's constantly criticizing. Because of all this, the atmosphere in our office has never felt relaxed.

During the "quiet" phases—when she's directing her anger toward others instead of me—we occasionally chat, but even then, you can feel the tension. We never actually laugh together.

She mentioned once that she's open to new ideas, but I get the feeling she actually hates it when someone suggests one. Once, she shut down an idea I had, calling it useless. I dropped it. Then, a while later, she brought up the exact same idea herself, acting like it was some brilliant concept and wondering why I hadn't thought of it.

I’m almost never included in conversations with the staff members she actually gets along with. When they come into our room, they’ll duck into another office to whisper or just close the door. And if I try to strike up a casual conversation with them, she’ll often cut me off, even though she wasn't even acknowledging my existence two hours prior.
Mostly, she only talks to them when she's gossiping about people she doesn't like.

Day by day, I'm finding it harder and harder to show up to work. I'm stuck...


You're playing the victim here, and that's exactly how you're acting—quietly taking it and bowing your head. Since she isn't your boss, you have more leverage to push back against her behavior. Start keeping a log of her outbursts: exact dates, times, what was said, and how she acted. Then take that documentation to management. Don't forget that you have a degree. You probably mentioned it, or she found out, and since she likely doesn't have one, her treatment of you is clearly driven by her own insecurities. This situation won't change until YOU do something. Running away or looking for another job isn't the answer. Life isn't a playground; you'll just run into a different kind of problem at the next firm. If your behavior stays the same, you haven't actually solved anything.

But before any of that, my advice is to sit her down for coffee after work and tell her DIRECTLY what's wrong, in a diplomatic way. She’ll probably deny it, but bring up specific dates and times so she sees you aren't just some pushover who can be argued with. Don't whine or beg; just tell her you want a more professional, collegial relationship where you both participate equally. Keep in mind, she might be intimidated by you—afraid you'll take her spot or move past her because you're younger and better educated. If you're on equal footing, her behavior is unacceptable, and so is yours. It doesn't matter that you arrived later; you should be settled in by now. Why let this mess with your head? This is a problem with your own mental peace, and it won't go away on its own. You need to deal with this, because based on your description, it's a significant issue.
Austin Murphy5 Austin Murphy5 Member
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joined Oct 2008
#29 ·
Zachary Mendoza2 said:Since you currently have this job, finding a better one will be much easier. Start looking now; you will find something soon. I suggest staying mindful of this while you are still working there, especially during those awkward moments with your coworker. Once you land the new role, do not look back.

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To me, this also seems like the most painless way to handle things. It can be quite difficult for women to break free from certain situations.
Jessica Miller51 Jessica Miller51 Member
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joined Sep 2019
#30 ·
Austin Murphy5 said:👍
To me, this also seems like the most painless way to handle things. It can be quite difficult for women to break free from certain situations.

Fair point, but just checking out isn't a fix. The issue is her—she lacks the tools to handle things properly. Move her to a new firm and she'll just be back to complaining from the sidelines instead of actually tackling the problem head-on...
Harold Palmer2 Harold Palmer2 Newcomer
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#31 ·
In my department—which is about 100 people—the turnover is insane. I’d bet the average tenure is barely 8 months.

Everyone acts so wonderful—WhatsApp groups, birthday celebrations, all that corporate fluff... 😵

I actually tried being "nice" to everyone. And what did it get me???

Some lunatic who sent me a friend request the second they sat next to me. She spent her time eavesdropping on my every conversation just to chime in with comments. I eventually told her my business was none of her concern and asked to be moved. When they finally transferred me, she became incredibly rude. This woman literally listens to every single conversation in the office. And the boss? He’s married, yet he’s running around carrying food back and forth for people all day. That girl is not right in the head. She does zero actual work, yet constantly groans like she’s being worked to death. She’s stuffing chips and mints into her mouth every three minutes—it’s pathological. Then she’ll just stare at you incessantly while you're trying to focus for five minutes. Honestly, she’s rude to everyone; she even had the nerve to say she wouldn't cover shifts while certain people were on vacation. 🍿 She even hunted down my number in the WhatsApp group and started blowing up my phone while I was out on sick leave. My manager would NEVER do something like that. I send him an email letting him know I'm out for a few days, and he just stays silent!

The guy I work with is a total tool. He shows up in full suits and ties while the rest of us roll in wearing jeans and sneakers. ☕
He pretends he’s an expert on everything. He wouldn't listen to a word I said when I was explaining things, then turned around and told the boss that I hadn't explained anything at all. 😵

Eventually, I just snapped. I told him he needs to start putting things in writing because I am not wasting my time explaining the same thing five times just because he can't manage to write down basic bullet points. 🙂

The guy occasionally glares at me when I'm busy. Because, you know, some people actually work.
Yesterday, a colleague I recognize from emails and passing by invited me out to grab a coffee and chat. He asked me point-blank—without me saying a word—if this new guy was actually sane, if he even knew how to do his job, and how he was performing.

I told him straight up: after six months, the guy still does everything wrong, and if he actually has the degree he claims to have, I highly doubt it.

Here is what I’ve learned after two months at a massive corporation: Do your job, put on your headphones, screw everyone over, and ignore them. Act annoyed, act busy, act stressed, and act uninterested. 🙂

I actually helped this guy quite a bit—fixing his mistakes and giving him some much-needed reality checks regarding his performance. Sometimes, during a five-minute break, we’d go out for a smoke and talk about anything except work. Then we just head home our separate ways.

I can't read him, and frankly, I'm not even going to try. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose, if he's lazy, or if he's just plain stupid.

My manager knows exactly where I stand, and he knows how this guy treated me and my former colleague whom he replaced. Thank Bog that she still works at the firm; she told the boss the truth about the new guy and exactly what he’s been pulling on us.

There are a few others who just gossip and suck up to the bosses—people who are basically insignificant. Just a bunch of frustrated singles who have no life outside of the office, so they think they need to know everyone's business.

Problem solved.

Good luck to you, and maybe learn something from my experience. If someone is getting on your nerves and you're the new person:

1. Show respect to whoever has been there for years.
2. Be independent; try to solve your own problems without leaning on them.
3. If you have work issues, go to your manager, not a coworker.
4. Hang in there for a couple of months, stay polite, and then request a transfer.
5. Ignore the office gossip involving long-term employees; it has nothing to do with you.
6. Sony noise-canceling headphones are a lifesaver!
7. If it’s not a fit and you can't last 2–3 years for the sake of your resume, leave during the probationary period.
8. Don't force yourself on anyone. If they want to grab a coffee or a smoke with you, they will.
9. If you have a problem and don't know what to do, make a scene. Ask multiple people for help and advice. They'll respect you for it.

You do your job, you clock out, and you head home. Period. Your coworkers aren't your buddies—they’re just people you work with. You run your meetings, you handle your business, and that's it. Don't drag them into your private life; maybe, if you're feeling particularly charitable, you'll grab a drink once in a blue moon. But realistically? It’s one actual friend for every forty people in the office.
Kyle Watson35 Kyle Watson35 Newcomer
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#32 ·
Gary Myers said:I started this job at the beginning of the year. It’s not high-stress, and I could see myself sticking with it long-term since it's actually somewhat interesting. The downside is that I'm officially classified as having just a high school diploma, so my pay reflects that, even though I have a college degree.

The issue is my cubicle mate. Ever since I joined, the vibe in our workspace has been "heavy"—if I can even find a better word for it. When I first started, she wouldn't even talk to me for the first couple of weeks. She’d only speak up when we needed to coordinate tasks. She told me straight up that I was the fourth new hire in a single month and she just didn't have the patience left for anyone else.

In the months since, it's been a cycle. One minute she's taking her frustrations out on me, the next she's venting at a few other people. It's hard to listen to, especially because she calls them names—not to their faces, obviously, but once they leave the room or hang up the phone. She's constantly criticizing. Because of all this, the atmosphere in our office has never felt relaxed.

During the "quiet" phases—when she's directing her anger toward others instead of me—we occasionally chat, but even then, you can feel the tension. We never actually laugh together.

She mentioned once that she's open to new ideas, but I get the feeling she actually hates it when someone suggests one. Once, she shut down an idea I had, calling it useless. I dropped it. Then, a while later, she brought up the exact same idea herself, acting like it was some brilliant concept and wondering why I hadn't thought of it.

I’m almost never included in conversations with the staff members she actually gets along with. When they come into our room, they’ll duck into another office to whisper or just close the door. And if I try to strike up a casual conversation with them, she’ll often cut me off, even though she wasn't even acknowledging my existence two hours prior.
Mostly, she only talks to them when she's gossiping about people she doesn't like.

Day by day, I'm finding it harder and harder to show up to work. I'm stuck...

Daisy Duke,
it seems to me that the most important part of your whole story is where you mentioned that the job itself is interesting and that you see a future there.
You found something you enjoy and something you want to pursue professionally.
Now, you just have to make a conscious decision that you won't—and absolutely cannot—allow some insignificant person to ruin your days.
You don't need to be friends with her, nor do you need to build anything beyond a professional relationship.
Keep your conversations strictly about work.
You aren't there to socialize; you're there to do your job.
As for breaks and socializing, I'm sure there are plenty of other colleagues in the company you can connect with.
This woman has her own little circle that she clearly isn't letting you into.
You have to accept that.
You can't force it.
I'm sure you can find a group at the office to hang out with during lunch or grab coffee with, joke around, and relax.
It doesn't have to be someone sitting in your immediate workspace.

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