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Where is spirituality taking us? Is it getting dangerous?

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Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#21 ·
Zachary Cox69 said:It's usually just superstition—nothing more.
For instance, a friend of a woman I know bought her a necklace and bracelet set for her birthday.
Supposedly they were "healing" items, but then she started feeling pain in all the exact spots the packaging claimed they would cure. In the end, once I realized what was actually going on, things went south fast.

Gold-plated magnetic pain-relief necklace - ORIGINAL ENERGETIX... marketed for health purposes... features strong magnets... 20 inch circumference... stylish and decorative... Benefits of wearing magnetic jewelry:
-improves circulation
-boosts metabolism
-stabilizes blood pressure
-strengthens the immune system
-relieves headaches and migraines
-soothes menstrual cramps
-enhances immunity
-helps with arthritis and rheumatism
-assists with pain in:
-joints
-muscles
-lower back
-neck

I bet you ended up selling it on eBay anyway.😉

But honestly, how does any of that even connect to chakras, crystals, or yoga poses? 🤷
Zachary Cox69 Zachary Cox69 Active MemberOP
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#22 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:I bet you ended up selling it on eBay anyway.😉

But honestly, how does any of that even connect to chakras, crystals, or yoga poses? 🤷

New Age stuff is just hype.
And crystals fall right into that bucket—supposedly they have healing powers.
I didn't sell anything—that's a lie—and I'm not looking to sell to anyone.
Zachary Cox69 Zachary Cox69 Active MemberOP
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#23 ·
cosmicdriver42 said:I don't get it. You spend the first half of the post saying it's junk, then you spend the second half running an ad for it...

Pitching it?
I'm saying this:
"It's just plain old superstition, nothing more.
For instance, a friend of mine bought her a necklace and bracelet set for her birthday.
Claiming they have healing powers—well, suddenly she started feeling pain in every single spot those charms were supposed to fix. In the end, once I realized what was actually going on, the whole thing went up in flames."
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#24 ·
Zachary Cox69 said:New Age stuff is just hype.
And crystals fall right into that bucket—supposedly they have healing powers.
I didn't sell anything—that's a lie—and I'm not looking to sell to anyone.

If that's the case, then the person selling that necklace must be just as clueless as you are, which is honestly pretty depressing to think about. 😢

As for the whole "healing" debate, you should probably head over to the Alternative Medicine subforum. For me, crystals are more about spiritual growth. 🧐
frozenstag9 frozenstag9 Member
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#25 ·
Zachary Cox69 said:New Age stuff is just hype.
And crystals fall right into that bucket—supposedly they have healing powers.
I didn't sell anything—that's a lie—and I'm not looking to sell to anyone.

Just imagine a Christian Apocalypse filled with all sorts of crystals and precious stones... plus, you even see them mentioned in descriptions of Paradise!
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#26 ·
frozenstag9 said:Just imagine a Christian Apocalypse filled with all sorts of crystals and precious stones... plus, you even see them mentioned in descriptions of Paradise!

Wait, so like... literal gemstone geniuses? 🤔
Scott Nguyen5 Scott Nguyen5 Member
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#27 ·
Zachary Cox69 said:It’s pretty naive to assume that what we believe is entirely our own. Someone is always pulling the strings on our opinions and our faith—no one is an island.

It’s just as naive—and honestly, kind of arrogant—to judge other people by your own standards, your own abilities, or your own limitations.

"Influence" is a massive concept.
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#28 ·
Zachary Cox69 said:What exactly is spirituality?
There’s this one Christian sect in the USA—though where else, really? Everywhere you look, people are selling some version of "spirituality"—where they catch venomous snakes with their bare hands. If you survive, you're considered spiritual. It's a bit like how the Sufi Order operates, too.
http://rs.n1info.com/Vesti/a374471/D...avangarda.html
Or take this—people actually let themselves be crucified.
Between the whipping, the nailing to crosses, seeking "death," and barefoot pilgrimages... traditions across the world can get pretty wild and interesting.
CP
An Australian man and 29 Filipinos participated this year in a traditional wooden crucifixion on Good Friday in the Philippines, reenacting the death of Jesus.

In the town of Kapitangan, four men and one woman were "crucified," while another 25 men underwent the same process in the town of Cutud, according to international news outlets. These customs—which the Catholic Church doesn't support—are meant to "cleanse the souls" of those undergoing such painful rituals.

One guy holds the record with 23 crucifixions under his belt.

These rituals have been going on in Cutud for 54 years now, and this year, thousands of tourists flocked to the region just to watch those 25 men being "crucified." To become a "Christ"—which is what they call these people—you have to wait years, often sitting on long waiting lists. The record holder is 48-year-old Ruben Enaje, who has been crucified 23 times.

After the "crucifixion," every "Christ" is taken by doctors to have their wounds checked, while others step in to carry their crosses. Some critics argue that the whole thing has turned into little more than a tourist attraction—that the actual faith and redemption have been lost in the spectacle.
Or this. Honestly, it's no wonder so many rational people struggle to believe in God when they see stuff like this.
http://arhiva.dalje.com/foto.php?id=...41&idrf=495733

It starts with realizing you're actually going to die, which is pretty much what makes us human.

Then it ends with the belief that some specific guy is going to live forever.

That’s why organized religion is just spiritual poison—it kills the soul.

There’s this one Christian sect in America (where else, right? they sell all kinds of nonsense under the guise of spirituality) that practices catching venomous snakes with their bare hands. If you survive, apparently you're enlightened.

Because that's what Quincy recommended:

And He said to them: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak in new tongues, they will pick up snakes; and if they drink anything fatal, it will not hurt them. They will place their hands on the sick, and they will recover."
And after the Lord Jesus said this, He was taken up into heaven and sat at the right hand of God.

So, the fake Jesus basically told people to grab snakes, promising that Him—or faith in Him—would protect them from the venom.

Or this, where they let themselves be crucified.

By our Lord... just like how Paul or Peter used to hang out.

From being flogged,

Opus Dei...

Or this. It's no wonder plenty of rational people don't believe in God when they see stuff like this.

Pathetic if that's really the reason.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#29 ·
Anthony Perez9 said:It starts with realizing you're actually going to die, which is pretty much what makes us human.

Then it ends with the belief that some specific guy is going to live forever.

That’s why organized religion is just spiritual poison—it kills the soul.

There’s this one Christian sect in America (where else, right? they sell all kinds of nonsense under the guise of spirituality) that practices catching venomous snakes with their bare hands. If you survive, apparently you're enlightened.

Because that's what Quincy recommended:

And He said to them: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak in new tongues, they will pick up snakes; and if they drink anything fatal, it will not hurt them. They will place their hands on the sick, and they will recover."
And after the Lord Jesus said this, He was taken up into heaven and sat at the right hand of God.

So, the fake Jesus basically told people to grab snakes, promising that Him—or faith in Him—would protect them from the venom.

Or this, where they let themselves be crucified.

By our Lord... just like how Paul or Peter used to hang out.

From being flogged,

Opus Dei...

Or this. It's no wonder plenty of rational people don't believe in God when they see stuff like this.

Pathetic if that's really the reason.

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frozenstag9 frozenstag9 Member
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frozenstag9 frozenstag9 Member
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#31 ·
While those stuck in rigid religious dogmas are just trudging along a single, narrow path... we're out here riding the wave of light!
It’s honestly way more thrilling for us—we’re basically surfers cruising through the universe.
Just imagine how wild it'll get once we master the art of materializing and dematerializing right on that wave of light...
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#32 ·
frozenstag9 said:While those stuck in rigid religious dogmas are just trudging along a single, narrow path... we're out here riding the wave of light!
It’s honestly way more thrilling for us—we’re basically surfers cruising through the universe.
Just imagine how wild it'll get once we master the art of materializing and dematerializing right on that wave of light...

What exactly would you be materializing, or dematerializing?
casualtiger2 casualtiger2 Regular
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#33 ·
The whole point of spirituality is just trying to be a better person.
Even better? Helping everyone else level up, too.
And—honestly—that part's a lot easier.

😍
Mark Twain (paraphrased).
frozenstag9 frozenstag9 Member
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#34 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:What exactly would you be materializing, or dematerializing?

Look, if you're planning on being a surfer riding the waves of the universe, you've really got to master the art of both materializing and dematerializing matter.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#35 ·
frozenstag9 said:Look, if you're planning on being a surfer riding the waves of the universe, you've really got to master the art of both materializing and dematerializing matter.

Look, you can't ride those waves without God and some genuine love for every living thing out there.

The problem is you just don't get it right now because you're coasting on good karma—you're basically burning through a savings account you didn't even earn. But mark my words, when karma finally decides to slap you across the face and snap your spine, you're gonna spiral straight into total darkness because you won't have a clue what you did to mess things up so badly.
frozenstag9 frozenstag9 Member
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#36 ·
David Vaughn75 said:Look, you can't ride those waves without God and some genuine love for every living thing out there.

The problem is you just don't get it right now because you're coasting on good karma—you're basically burning through a savings account you didn't even earn. But mark my words, when karma finally decides to slap you across the face and snap your spine, you're gonna spiral straight into total darkness because you won't have a clue what you did to mess things up so badly.

Look, it starts with self-love—once you master that, loving everything else becomes second nature.
🤣
frozenstag9 frozenstag9 Member
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#37 ·
I'll be sure to dive much deeper into this later—I want to share more about those Light Riders who descended upon our planet, because, if you ask me, we are actually their direct descendants.
For those of us who live to ride nothing but pure light sine waves, we're really just carrying on their ancient legacy.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#38 ·
frozenstag9 said:Look, it starts with self-love—once you master that, loving everything else becomes second nature.
🤣

That’s a solid point. I mean... if we're supposed to 'love our neighbor as ourselves,' but we can't even find any sense of self-worth to begin with... well, we're kind of stuck, aren't we? 😬
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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frozenstag9 said:I'll be sure to dive much deeper into this later—I want to share more about those Light Riders who descended upon our planet, because, if you ask me, we are actually their direct descendants.
For those of us who live to ride nothing but pure light sine waves, we're really just carrying on their ancient legacy.

Sounds good. To be honest, I've always been more of a Silver Surfer fan than a Kal-el guy. 🕺
Zachary Cox69 Zachary Cox69 Active MemberOP
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#40 ·
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Because Jesus Christ told them to:

And He said to them: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak in new tongues, they will pick up snakes; and if they drink anything fatal, it will not hurt them. They will place their hands on the sick, and they will recover."
After he said this, the Lord Jesus was taken up into heaven and sat at the right hand of God.

So, a fake Jesus led some people to handle snakes, claiming faith in Him would protect them from venom.

That’s just how you sound when you read Jesus superficially. He called certain Pharisees a "brood of vipers"—you don't think he actually meant they were literal snakes, right? Or when He used metaphors like "whitewashed tombs" or told people, "You have the Devil as your father" (which, honestly, he'd say to you too).
Jesus speaks in imagery—think about it. He basically implies that nothing can touch you unless God allows it. Look at Paul—the Bible says he was bitten by a snake and walked away totally fine. There are always fools in every faith, just like there are in atheism. You can't escape it. Christianity isn't immune to stupidity. People like that have nothing to do with Christ.

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