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Anyone else feeling completely unmotivated lately?

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cosmicdriver42 cosmicdriver42 Active Member
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#21 ·
Sophia Ward57 said:It isn't supposed to, but don't they all have a sedative effect..?
Well, what else do you think is making you sleepy? Maybe try changing the timing of your medication. I take Vera before bed because it has that specific sedative quality. That way you get your rest, and you shouldn't be feeling drowsy again in the afternoon...
Wait, what exactly is your diagnosis?

I have OCD which wears me out—on a scale of 0 to 24, I'd say—but it doesn't make me feel listless. I think I'm depressed (unofficially), and the OCD meds actually keep me somewhat elevated because I'm on 300 mg of Fever, an antidepressant that won't let me sink too low. So I'm just... flat. Neither good nor bad...

Wait, you're taking three Fevarin pills a day? I tried Fevarin once and even a single dose felt like being strapped to a rocket; I can't imagine triple that without my heart giving out. Are you taking anything else?
James Mitchell11 James Mitchell11 Member
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#22 ·
Yeah, I definitely felt it too.
I was feeling totally drained, exhausted, and just completely wiped out...
I’ve always struggled with anemia, so that doesn't help much.
Things are looking up now, though—much better actually.
I've been trying some bioresonance treatments.
It’s a slow process, but it's moving in the right direction! ☺️
Onwards and upwards! 😊
Sophia Ward57 Sophia Ward57 MemberOP
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#23 ·
fadedbear92 said:At its core, isn't depression just a lack of motivation? That's why antidepressants and therapy exist—but I honestly don't follow your line of reasoning here.

If we are talking about clinical depression, we're looking at disrupted neurotransmitter connections—basically pure chemistry and biology.

Are you dealing with clinical depression personally, or is it a milder version?

"...To overly simplify things, the neurons in our brains send and receive chemical signals to communicate with each other much like we send our friends or co-workers an email. When things are working normally, emails flow back and forth at appropriate levels and are received on the other side. This regulates our mood and we have a proportionate response to our circumstances (i.e., when there is something to be happy about, our brain releases happy chemicals and we feel happy, and wen there is something to be sad about we feel sad).

In the brain of someone suffering from major depression, there is a glitch in their email system. This can happen in multiple ways: sometimes it’s that not enough happy emails are being sent, and sometimes it’s that there aren’t enough accounts to receive those emails, so they don’t have the intended effect. Either way, an experience that might produce a happy response in a normally functioning brain will not generate the same response in a brain suffering from depression.

What this means is that someone who is depressed might have to work two or three or more times as hard to generate the same happy chemical response in their brain as someone without depression. And that’s tough, because some of these same neurotransmitters also affect willpower and energy, so someone suffering from depression will have less of those as well to work with.

So What works for treating depression?

Luckily, there are many treatments that have been proven to be effective against depression. And according to the National Institutes of Health, 80% of those who seek treatment of depression show an improvement of their symptoms within 4-6 weeks of beginning treatment with medications, psychotherapy, attending support groups or a combination of above.

https://www.naturewisecounseling.com...k-of-willpower

scientific lecture


A scientific lecture...[/I]

Lack of motivation isn't quite the same thing as clinical depression. I don't deal with those suicidal thoughts that typically come with depression, nor am I feeling sad or crying all the time. For me, it’s just a complete lack of willpower. My official diagnosis is OCD, not depression, yet I’m still prescribed high doses of antidepressants—which effectively treats a depression I don't even have...
The listlessness I’m feeling is just overwhelming... I have absolutely zero interest in getting out of bed in the morning, talking to anyone, or doing anything at all. It isn't even that I feel sad, per se; it's more like this complete and total lack of will...
Sophia Ward57 Sophia Ward57 MemberOP
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cosmicdriver42 said:Wait, you're taking three Fevarin pills a day? I tried Fevarin once and even a single dose felt like being strapped to a rocket; I can't imagine triple that without my heart giving out. Are you taking anything else?

I take Vaira in the evening to help me sleep, but only 5 mg. It's strictly to manage the panic attacks I get before bed. Honestly, because the feeling from Fevarin is so intense, I somehow manage to stay lethargic despite it...🎉
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#25 ·
Sophia Ward57 said:A scientific lecture...[/I]

Lack of motivation isn't quite the same thing as clinical depression. I don't deal with those suicidal thoughts that typically come with depression, nor am I feeling sad or crying all the time. For me, it’s just a complete lack of willpower. My official diagnosis is OCD, not depression, yet I’m still prescribed high doses of antidepressants—which effectively treats a depression I don't even have...
The listlessness I’m feeling is just overwhelming... I have absolutely zero interest in getting out of bed in the morning, talking to anyone, or doing anything at all. It isn't even that I feel sad, per se; it's more like this complete and total lack of will...

But depression isn't just sadness—it is precisely that loss of drive. You don't necessarily need to have suicidal ideation to be experiencing it. To keep it brief, here is what medical professionals say:

Depression is an ancient condition, and its name actually stems from the Latin word *deprimere*, which translates to push down, depress, or sink.

In depression, one's mood is suppressed, and this pathologically lowered mood is the fundamental hallmark of the condition.

Mood shifts in depression can occur without any obvious trigger or may seem completely disconnected from any potential cause.

Symptoms of depression

Those suffering from depression often feel sad and hopeless; they struggle with intense guilt and often feel they have let others down or become a burden to their family members.

Depression impacts every facet of a patient's life, as well as those around them.

It causes significant strain within marriages, families, careers, and social circles.

Clinical depression, which requires professional treatment, is fundamentally different from the passing low moods most people experience as a normal reaction to a specific loss.

People experiencing normal grief usually maintain their ability to concentrate and experience pleasure; such individuals can still enjoy spending time with friends and family.

If five (or more) of the following symptoms are present over a two-week period—provided that at least one is either (1) depressed mood or (2) loss of interest and/or pleasure—it meets the criteria:

A depressed mood for most of the day, nearly every day, whether reported subjectively or observed by others;

A marked decrease in interest and/or pleasure in almost all activities for most of the day, nearly every day;

Significant weight loss (for example, losing more than 5% of body weight in a month) without dieting, or weight gain, or changes in appetite;

Insomnia or, less commonly, hypersomnia (oversleeping);

Psychomotor agitation or retardation (observable by others);

Fatigue or a total loss of energy;

Feelings of worthlessness or excessive/inappropriate guilt (beyond just feeling guilty about being ill);

Diminished ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness (either felt subjectively or noted by others);

Recurrent thoughts of death, suicidal ideation without a specific plan, suicide attempts, or having a specific plan for suicide.

These symptoms must cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

The disorder does not result from the direct physiological effects of a substance or another general medical condition.

To establish a diagnosis for a depressive episode, the symptoms must persist for at least two weeks.

I was just reading through this piece on
regarding what actually helps when you're dealing with depression. It’s a pretty deep dive into the various approaches—everything from clinical interventions to those small, everyday lifestyle shifts that can make a massive difference. Honestly, it really makes you think about how multifaceted mental health management truly is.
cosmicdriver42 cosmicdriver42 Active Member
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#26 ·
Sophia Ward57 said:I take Vaira in the evening to help me sleep, but only 5 mg. It's strictly to manage the panic attacks I get before bed. Honestly, because the feeling from Fevarin is so intense, I somehow manage to stay lethargic despite it...🎉

Fevarin worked fine for me for about two or three months, but then the insomnia kicked in. I'm not sure if it was the medication itself since the sleeplessness stuck around even after I quit, but either way, it wasn't doing it for me anymore. For me, it was a very heavy-duty drug.
Sophia Ward57 Sophia Ward57 MemberOP
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#27 ·
cosmicdriver42 said:Fevarin worked fine for me for about two or three months, but then the insomnia kicked in. I'm not sure if it was the medication itself since the sleeplessness stuck around even after I quit, but either way, it wasn't doing it for me anymore. For me, it was a very heavy-duty drug.

Really? So far, everything has been fine on my end. In fact, it was actually the opposite for me—I had trouble sleeping at first. I would wake up at 4:00 AM feeling completely rested and refreshed.
It truly helped me, though it didn't entirely eliminate my OCD. I still struggle with intrusive thoughts every single day; it’s just that I feel more capable of controlling my actions now. The rumination is definitely still there. So, while the medication is strong, it really does provide relief. My OCD used to consume my entire day; the only time I felt a reprieve was while I was sleeping, though even then, the anxiety would allow panic attacks to creep in. Now, I am fully functional, aside from this constant sense of lethargy. I try to channel as much energy as possible into staying active so I don't succumb to that lack of motivation, and I've had some success... but when I'm left alone with my thoughts, I don't feel happiness or satisfaction, just a sense of emptiness.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#28 ·
cosmicdriver42 said:Fevarin worked fine for me for about two or three months, but then the insomnia kicked in. I'm not sure if it was the medication itself since the sleeplessness stuck around even after I quit, but either way, it wasn't doing it for me anymore. For me, it was a very heavy-duty drug.

Well, it's an anxiolytic antidepressant—basically a downer—so I highly doubt it caused the insomnia, though I suppose every individual reacts differently to any antidepressant, so I can't rule out the possibility entirely.
Sophia Ward57 Sophia Ward57 MemberOP
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#29 ·
fadedbear92 said:Well, it's an anxiolytic antidepressant—basically a downer—so I highly doubt it caused the insomnia, though I suppose every individual reacts differently to any antidepressant, so I can't rule out the possibility entirely.

Where did you hear that it's an anxiolytic? As far as I'm aware, it's simply a potent antidepressant. Insomnia is definitely a side effect; I experienced it myself during the initial stages because the medication is quite strong and tends to leave me feeling wired, which is why I take something else before bed just so I can drift off... So...
wanderingbadger0 wanderingbadger0 Member
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#30 ·
Hello Sophia Ward57, I noticed you haven't been active on the forum lately. If you happen to come across this post, please let me know how you are doing... specifically, if you have managed to overcome that period of low motivation (and perhaps how you did it)... 🙂
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
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#31 ·
I honestly think school burnout and job fatigue are the main reasons we’re seeing this happen—it just drives people to these extremes.

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