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How do I learn to listen to my intuition?

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#21 ·
Charles Collins4 said:There’s a beautiful saying regarding intuition: conscience keeps us from hurting others, while intuition keeps us from hurting ourselves. I truly believe that inner voice is our guardian angel, a soul guide, or a higher consciousness—whatever you choose to call it. It exists to protect our spiritual integrity, and it is essentially infallible. That voice always knows exactly what serves our best interests. Personally, my intuition is quite strong, yet I still find myself ignoring it in favor of "logic." And every single time, without fail, that choice comes back to haunt me. Intuition is truth. It can be completely different from what our minds or even our hearts tell us. For me, it isn't really a "heart" thing; it’s more of a gut feeling. When I have to make a decision, if I feel a heaviness or a knot tightening in my stomach accompanied by a shortness of breath, I know immediately the choice is wrong. On the other hand, if I feel a sense of relief—like a weight of five pounds has been lifted off my shoulders—then I know it’s the right move, regardless of what my heart wants or what my brain suggests. Wouldn't we all be incomparably happier if we simply listened to our intuition?

Exactly.

Intuition is truth. It can be entirely different from logic or even emotion. I don't call it the "voice of the heart" like people tend to do; for me, it’s more like a gut feeling. When I'm making a decision and feel this heaviness, a tightening, like a knot forming in my stomach accompanied by a short breath—that's how I know it's the wrong move. On the flip side, if there's a sense of relief, a lightness, like a five-pound weight just lifted off me, then I know it's right. Regardless of what my heart wants or what my brain tells me.

That's a solid way to put it.

If people actually listened to their intuition more, they'd be incomparably happier.

True. We'd likely be much more successful and content if we could just let our angels take the wheel.
But it isn't that simple. Our passions and selfish desires get in the way. They block the path to our true internal will, essentially locking the door so the angels can't get in.
We tap into that intuition when our inner will is open, which really only happens when we're relaxed—when we aren't being clouded by overwhelming impulses and cravings.
Matthew Cruz44 Matthew Cruz44 Active Member
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#22 ·
If you truly hold onto your faith, even the most intense passions and worldly desires can't keep the angels from finding their way in.

Ultimately, faith stands above everything else.

I think I finally see what this whole discussion is getting at, especially regarding the things I’ve been wrestling with for the last nine months. It’s that constant moral tug-of-war. You know that sensation where you feel like you’re right on the edge of losing your mind? Well, sometimes that feeling is fueled by your raw impulses and desires, but other times, that exact same sense of impending madness is actually triggered by your faith. In a way, our feelings are shaped by every internal script we run—every program we have—and yes, faith is one of those programs too. But once you realize that faith is more than just another mental subroutine, that overwhelming feeling of instability and insanity starts to settle down into something much calmer.

It’s often much easier to rely on logic and intellect than it is to simply believe, isn't it? At least until those very thoughts start turning against you.
Matthew Cruz44 Matthew Cruz44 Active Member
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#23 ·
Not at all. There isn't really a formula to follow here, because truth doesn't reside within the mind...

But then again, it isn't found in intuition either.

1) If you’ve ever brushed up against the Law of Attraction, you’ll know about the concept of "contrast."

Contrast is essentially that moment when life throws a curveball—something you absolutely didn't ask for—right as you're trekking toward what you actually want.

And honestly, that contrast is perfectly fine; while it's happening, you get the chance to let go of that "I don't want this" mindset, which actually helps you refine your ultimate goal until it fits you perfectly.

2) However, if you fight against that contrast, you fall straight into "duality," where you end up trying to hold onto two opposing forces—like trying to have both the harvest and the drought at once—and in the end, you're left with neither. This happens because our core being simply cannot sustain duality; it's not that scarcity is waiting for you, it's just that in that specific moment, you're experiencing an overwhelming surplus of conflicting signals.

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To wrap this up, I realize my posts can be a bit rambling and scattered, much like everyone else's here. Truth isn't dualistic, and it certainly isn't something you can debate. It’s unlikely this thread will provide any concrete answers to anyone.
Everyone uses their own "inner tools" however they see fit. I'm not saying this topic is a failure, just that the question itself is far too broad, which tends to just add more confusion to the mix.

We really ought to simplify this down to a psychological experience—a conversation about raw feelings and stepping away from logic altogether.

Anyone who feels this sensation is grappling with a "moral dilemma."

I actually came across this concept in a book recently. It’s one of those parts of ourselves we tend to suppress. In fact, if you were to conduct a study, you'd find that practically zero percent of people could give you a clear definition of what a moral dilemma truly is.

Yet, a century ago, it was something everyone understood intuitively.

IT IS THE ACT OF CHOOSING BETWEEN TWO OPTIONS THAT BOTH SEEM EQUALLY GOOD.

That is the heart of this discussion, not intuition. As someone mentioned earlier, intuition can falter or hit a wall, but that doesn't mean it has vanished; it just means it has been exhausted by endless loops of thought that spiral into fear and drift miles away from reality.
Reality doesn't care about your moral dilemmas if you lose touch with the present moment, which is exactly what happens during a dilemma. Reality consists of two points: the present, animalistic point where you breathe, eat, and sleep, and the point representing whether you achieved something or didn't. Between those two, there is nothing. Except for you.

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There you have it. I hope there are some folks interested in this. I think pivoting toward the psychological dimension would help us all. Where do these black-and-white ideas come from? They stem from duality, not from the primal, real world where day and night, or hunger and satiety, actually exist. They come from the duality of the mind, where if something isn't executed in one exact way... right this very second... it simply won't be good enough.
Furthermore, nobody walks around bragging about being so "deep" that they face moral dilemmas; instead, you just feel like a weakling who is paralyzed by indecision. Some people might actually be weaklings, I suppose, though I couldn't say for sure. The factual reality is that I cannot see the future with absolute precision. Even if I catch a glimpse through my "inner eye," it remains merely an internal reality.

It is certain that the future will be richer than the present. The future is inherently fuller than today. But that doesn't guarantee it will be financially wealthy. And that, I think, is the universal fear we all share.
Matthew Cruz44 Matthew Cruz44 Active Member
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#24 ·
Furthermore, I did mention a book earlier, though I neglected to specify which exact title explores this concept of a "moral dilemma."

The thing is, I’m actually torn between two different books—both absolute gems, really—and my memory is failing me on which one specifically covers that point. Regardless, if you ever feel the urge to cultivate a deeper sense of ethics, you absolutely must pick them up.

Scott Peck: The Road Less Traveled—it's a total classic.

David Brooks: Road to Character—a more contemporary bestseller.

When we talk about building character, what we’re really talking about is nurturing that inner voice. If someone is chasing worldly success, they’re usually just following whatever loud, external impulse leads them toward those material goals.

I truly hope there are some folks here interested in diving into this conversation.

To me, it feels like when you choose the path you believe is morally right—or intuitive, or whatever term people prefer to use these days—you end up heading down a road that almost nobody else would ever consider. It makes you feel a bit like a madwoman, honestly, as if the whole world is going to point fingers at you. It’s a bit like Diogenes living in his barrel; just another eccentric who thinks he’s found wisdom while everyone else looks on in confusion.
It reminds me of when he told the King to move out of his way because he was blocking the sunlight, completely dismissing any sort of material bribe or offer.

In all seriousness, someone acting with pure common sense wouldn't typically choose the very things that the majority rejects or deems unprofitable.

And since we’re living in such a modern age, that "crazy" label carries even more weight than it used to.

So, faced with that heavy stigma, you have to decide: do you ignore the pursuit of money? Do you wonder if you've lost your mind by waiting for some sort of "Law of Attraction" enlightenment that promises to deliver both integrity and a massive bank account simultaneously? It isn't an easy way to live.

But it doesn't stop there. Because once you actually possess a sense of ethics—which is evident if you're even wrestling with these dilemmas in the first place—you also start to fear giving in to the "logic of greed" or similar passions. You realize that chasing wealth can lead to a complete collapse of your character, potentially leaving you bankrupt or disgraced, and quite frankly, it's better to avoid that mess altogether. Yet, if you do stay the course, others will simply call you a fool.

It’s a complete, dizzying circle.

🤣Of course, life still happens, and you'll naturally find yourself swayed by the rhythm of the song playing in the background and such things.

Good luck to everyone, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#25 ·
Watch out—skribomania alert!

In my head, I call intuition "omniscience."
That’s basically how I see intuition—kind of a loose definition, if you know what I mean? It’s more like... well, it's hard to pin down. A bit of a question mark around the whole idea of actually "defining" it.
Intuition is basically flawless—it’s the ultimate end result pulled from every possible option across all "dimensions." Honestly? It’s lightning fast. Like, insanely quick. That’s just how that mechanism works. You instantly *know* what’s going to go down... the only real headache is actually trying to put it into words.

It’s all about that gut feeling—knowing something is true because you actually feel certain about it. Knowledge isn't just facts; it's that sense of security.
Look, everyone should just look out for themselves. Period.
Intuition isn't just one thing—it hits you in layers.
That "gut feeling" of absolute certainty—it’s real. Like knowing it’s gonna pour tomorrow regardless of what the Weather Channel says—that's just the surface level stuff. Then there's that other kind of "feeling"—the one where you just know you're gonna trip or wreck yourself today—and you end up stuck inside all day because you're just... off. That's the deep stuff.
Intuition doesn't give a damn about whether something is "good" or "bad" for us—or even if it matters to the rest of the world or the universe at large. It just... exists. It doesn't care about being important or unimportant. Honestly? It's our own selfish desires that cloud everything up and mess with the signal.
The fewer fears a person carries—the easier they are to read.

It’s just like how an encyclopedia would ache... you know, like reading about all that suffering young Hamlet went through.

They’re getting the info regardless—whether they're crying, laughing, or whatever else. The facts don't care about our vibes. (Though, let's be real—mood totally changes how you process stuff, so it’d be smart to keep that in mind.)

It’s totally different from logic, sense, or actual reason—stuff that’s just constantly being hijacked by emotion, you know? Like, driven entirely by some raw desire or deep-seated need, all while being walled off by this fake sense of "safe" reasoning.
She doesn't even need to overthink it—you can just feel that sense of security the second you look at her. Honestly, that first instinct? That’s everything. It's all there.
It’s not some calculated move—it’s not like they sat down and mapped out a chain of logic or built it from a bunch of patterns. Nah, it's just a random thought. A total non sequitur.
So, here's the thing—the second half of what intuition actually feels like? It’s freedom. Period.
Security vs. freedom—it's the classic tug-of-war.
Tried to type out "pulled" but the damn keyboard keeps fighting me—won't let me hit that "l" or even the space bar properly. My gut's telling me: just leave it alone and don't touch it. 🤔
Intuition is actually free—it’s not like people think. When you try to pin it down or wrap it in some "human" logic, you just end up losing that sense of freedom. Most people view liberty through this narrow, restrictive lens that basically ties you down... which isn't even true freedom in the real world. 😵 )

Intuition—that gut feeling—usually gets backed up by some serious stubbornness between what's happening outside and how you're feeling inside. Basically? The more you try to ignore that inner voice, the harder it’s gonna hit you. It'll manifest one way or another—no use fighting it.
You can't control, change, or upgrade thoughts like that—you just gotta ignore them.
Just another way to figure out what’s actually my top-tier, cold hard logic—you know, the stuff that's colored by emotion—versus that other thing... the stuff we haven't quite wrapped our heads around yet. Even when we think we get it, we really don't.
Why do we say "we don't know"? Because people get stuck in their own little bubbles. Feelings aren't facts—not logic, not reason (which, let's be honest, most people just flat-out ignore anyway). Facts? That’s actual knowledge.
Right? Or what?
What if feelings were just... I don't know. A risk. Just a super childish way of looking at things—right?

Intuition isn't even "mine." Just another thing on the list.
Look, logic and reason—that whole "my territory" thing based on how much we’ve developed or how we actually function—that's one thing. But intuition? That isn't mine to claim. Intuition doesn't give a damn about human logic, either. It's just that... you know, that "magical" element.
How am I somehow free on a Monday morning—right during the peak rush—when my calendar is supposed to be slammed? Honestly, I don't know. But apparently, my "inner voice" decided that was the vibe the second I opened my eyes today.

Knowledge isn't just about stacking up facts and then trying to practice them later—it's more than that.
Intuition isn't just some gut feeling—it’s the whole damn picture. Think about it: in religion, you've got God; in philosophy, it's the Absolute. It’s way bigger than us—way beyond any individual person. We're talking about the core mechanism of a reality that operates on a scale much, much larger than the human world.
Back in the old days—in that previous world—intuition felt like this thing tied directly to the "soul." Now? It’s more like the soul has just become one part of how our intuition works.

Intuition is all about that gut connection—it’s how you learn to actually listen and pick up on things. It's different from thoughts or emotions, which you gotta learn to manage and keep under control—plus there's the whole physical body thing, too, dealing with those subconscious levels.
You can't exactly put a leash on intuition—it’s not something you control.
That’s why she's such a tough pill to swallow—it's because most of us are wired to find security through control, and we try to get that control by thinking we know everything.
Intuition actually demands one of the toughest skills out there. Which is basically a human incapacity. (total glitch in the matrix)
The ability to just let go.
So, if we wanted to actually tap into all those perks of intuition and fully grasp what humans can know... maybe we’d need a utopia. Somewhere safe and free enough for a person to just surrender to that knowledge.

People talk about intuition like it’s this "inner voice," but honestly, it’s hard for us to wrap our heads around how something external can sound internal. Because if it’s inside—well, I have to assume it’s "me."
Nope.
It’s all about connection. Surrender. Security. Freedom.
Peace isn't even strictly necessary. Nor is wisdom. (though, fair point, you gotta learn how to maintain some "internal peace" in life—the world keeps spinning regardless, so no sense wasting energy on fear)

Dealing with people, relationships, and stuff like that—it’s way harder to listen to your gut there, just like with the big life decisions.
For instance.
There’s someone pretty dear to me. But whenever I check in with my intuition (just a quick thought about them, looking for that first gut reaction), the answer is always the same: "run!"
There’s zero emotion involved. It’s just an instruction.
Doesn't mean they're a bad person, necessarily. Just that the end result is negative. Or, better yet, totally unproductive.

Also, synchronicity.
Just like how celestial bodies spin in this persistent, identical dance around each other, everything else moves in kind—down to the smallest (or biggest?) organism. We see synchronicity more often now (or maybe we’re just noticing it more)—those moments where the dance aligns into multiple fragments, like water dancers.
Truly beautiful machinery.
Has anyone else (and I'm sure they have) noticed how when all those delicate, scissor-like hands are moving in the same direction, time seems to stretch? Like the moment lasts longer than any other chaotic movement? Even the water the girls are splashing slows down with their rhythm. And the flower they're forming stays perfectly still. You have to get close to realize how many other tiny, unbound forms are tucked inside that one single flower (all working together to make it).
When every car lines up perfectly at a red light in downtown Chicago, does anyone else feel like time just... slows down?
That’s because the brain doesn't need speed-flow-movement in a state of order—only in chaos.

Perfection is found in what is limited and finite. It's totally hypnotic.

Whew! Okay, enough. I gotta stop trying to chase perfection. Just a little bit more.

Intuition is tied to synchronicity—meaning, the act of connecting itself (connection creates order)—and it's tied to time, too. Where intuition "lives"—there is no time. No flow of time.
(mind you, be careful when connecting things; trying to force a link with human logic just leads to chaos and decay. Intuitive thought isn't tethered to human thought)
It’s linked (or rather, read) through feelings (that sense of knowing-certainty) and possibilities (surrender, noticing the details). (And remember: feelings aren't emotions!)
Intuitive thought is perfect synchronicity—the perfectly aligned info of a final result (because there is a place where all final results exist). A circle.

The only real snag is doubt. Doubt is a disturbance in the order. An ellipse.
But it's necessary... because order is boring. The universe is boring.
Humans aren't evolved enough to live a life without excitement. Besides, life is movement, a flow.
(and look at that sentence without any emotion, value, desire, need, or morality... just as it is written).
Doubt keeps us moving. As long as doubt exists, there is infinity—that's the virus, the imperfection. It pulls us away from our perfect, limited being. (Being limited isn't "exciting," even though that's what makes you perfect)

It’s not "exciting" in today's society, which translates to—it's not "worth it." (And "value"? That's part of the virus)
We're constantly sold this idea of perfect, non-stop, imperfect movement—ambition, hunger, need—a perfect illusion of imperfection that drives us toward the final outcome: total cosmic awareness.
And even that constant movement is finite—in its very persistence, it becomes perfect.

Maybe. 🤣

😵

🙂

Guys, I feel like I'm onto something with this novel—like there's a real spark here—but it’s just falling apart somewhere. I'll definitely be coming back to this exact draft one day.
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#26 ·
Matthew Cruz44 said:Furthermore, I did mention a book earlier, though I neglected to specify which exact title explores this concept of a "moral dilemma."

The thing is, I’m actually torn between two different books—both absolute gems, really—and my memory is failing me on which one specifically covers that point. Regardless, if you ever feel the urge to cultivate a deeper sense of ethics, you absolutely must pick them up.

Scott Peck: The Road Less Traveled—it's a total classic.

David Brooks: Road to Character—a more contemporary bestseller.

When we talk about building character, what we’re really talking about is nurturing that inner voice. If someone is chasing worldly success, they’re usually just following whatever loud, external impulse leads them toward those material goals.

I truly hope there are some folks here interested in diving into this conversation.

To me, it feels like when you choose the path you believe is morally right—or intuitive, or whatever term people prefer to use these days—you end up heading down a road that almost nobody else would ever consider. It makes you feel a bit like a madwoman, honestly, as if the whole world is going to point fingers at you. It’s a bit like Diogenes living in his barrel; just another eccentric who thinks he’s found wisdom while everyone else looks on in confusion.
It reminds me of when he told the King to move out of his way because he was blocking the sunlight, completely dismissing any sort of material bribe or offer.

In all seriousness, someone acting with pure common sense wouldn't typically choose the very things that the majority rejects or deems unprofitable.

And since we’re living in such a modern age, that "crazy" label carries even more weight than it used to.

So, faced with that heavy stigma, you have to decide: do you ignore the pursuit of money? Do you wonder if you've lost your mind by waiting for some sort of "Law of Attraction" enlightenment that promises to deliver both integrity and a massive bank account simultaneously? It isn't an easy way to live.

But it doesn't stop there. Because once you actually possess a sense of ethics—which is evident if you're even wrestling with these dilemmas in the first place—you also start to fear giving in to the "logic of greed" or similar passions. You realize that chasing wealth can lead to a complete collapse of your character, potentially leaving you bankrupt or disgraced, and quite frankly, it's better to avoid that mess altogether. Yet, if you do stay the course, others will simply call you a fool.

It’s a complete, dizzying circle.

🤣Of course, life still happens, and you'll naturally find yourself swayed by the rhythm of the song playing in the background and such things.

Good luck to everyone, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Don't sweat it—most of us are just crazy people convinced we're geniuses. See? You're actually pretty sane after all. 🙂

Anyway, I'm really interested in chatting about our "subconscious." That headspace where you aren't even processing what you read or planning what you're gonna say.
You just feel it, and then it comes out on the page.

I think you've got that in you.

You down? Let's keep it intuitive—no need for long-winded essays.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#27 ·
It isn’t really a voice. It’s just pure knowledge. Think about it like when someone asks you what 1+1 is. You don’t necessarily hear the word "two" ringing in your head, nor do you have to visualize the number "2." You just know. Period. Voices, mental imagery... those things only show up when you actually need to—to yourself or to others—rationally (or maybe not so rationally) explain how you reached a conclusion.

That whole "I thought this was good for me, but now that everyone is pushing it, I realize it isn't" mindset? That’s just resistance. It’s an automatic emotional reaction followed by some weird rationalization involving obscure, quasi-spiritual concepts. It’s basically a mental game.

The truth is, you either know or you don't. There isn't a middle ground or seven hundred shades of gray here. Emotions just blur the picture, and when that happens, all you can really do is sit there and wait for them to pass. They don't add any value to the reasoning process; they just cloud your direct insight into a situation, and their only real function is giving someone else the chance to make a fool out of you. 😬
driftingsurfer6 driftingsurfer6 Member
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#28 ·
Listening to your "inner voice" is actually pretty straightforward. I always just go with whatever option feeds my ego or takes the path of least resistance. That’s what people call listening to their inner voice.

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