Kenneth Perez15 said:says: I’m with you—honestly, I’d let them do whatever they want. Everything. You’ve got one group marching to celebrate the sanctity of life, while the other marches to glorify death. People want to organize Pride parades for any identity you can think of—it doesn't matter. We should just let everyone have their moment, whether it's radical fringe groups or anything else. Heck, if someone wants to march for every single mass murderer and criminal in history—be it Adolf Hitler, Ante Pavelić, or Josip Broz Marshall—so be it. It’s all irrelevant. Let people vent. In two or three years, they’ll get bored, the novelty will wear off, and then they’ll move on to actually intelligent topics.
If there’s even one person out there today who feels an affinity for mass murderers like Josip Broz Marshall, Adolf Hitler, or Ante Pavelić, why bother trying to stop them? Politics actually thrives on this stuff because it keeps the focus diverted toward marches, commemorations, and birthdays instead of the real issues... |
You’re twisting the facts. People aren't celebrating murder; they’re remembering what life was like during that era, and Josip Broz Marshall is the symbol of that period.
It’s not like people put up monuments to guys like those local mob bosses just because they were cold-blooded killers—they did it for entirely different reasons.
Using that logic, Germans could basically say, "Life was actually quite good during Hitler's reign; we had economic growth and a solid national economy" (which, obviously, was tied directly to the war industry). So, since Hitler is the face of that period, do you really think it’s okay for them to celebrate his birthday? Or if someone associates Hitler with the expansion of the Autobahn, would it be fine to celebrate him just because he represents those things to them?
Personally, I find it wrong. Even if both Hitler and Marshall had certain positive aspects—and let's be honest, they did—it remains an indisputable fact that these men were among history's worst criminals. No matter what positive context you try to wrap them in, I think celebrating them is fundamentally wrong. And sure, that includes a Pavelić, who is effectively the equivalent of Marshall or Hitler here—not that I want anyone jumping down my throat asking, "But what about a Pavelić?"
I’m not trying to turn this into a competition over who was the most evil monster—that’s not the point, and in my eyes, they're all on the same level. At the same time, I get why some people feel a sense of sympathy toward Marshall, a Pavelić, or Hitler. One is driven by nostalgia, another is convinced by the ideology, and I don't necessarily need to hold it against them. I'm just saying that from my perspective, honoring these people as individuals or symbols is wrong. That said, I also don't think we should police everything; people should be allowed to vent their views and move on. We shouldn't give undue importance to either the folks holding rallies in small towns like Kumrovec or the ones marching through the streets in black.