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Dennis Patel5 Dennis Patel5 NewcomerOP
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#21 ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:1. Look, you’re clearly one of those people who can't stand seeing someone else struggle, yet you have zero intention of actually helping. From what you're saying, it sounds like you're just worried about how her weight gain might affect your own image. If she gained 20 pounds, you'd be embarrassed to show up in public with her. You're looking out for yourself. Honestly, I get it, but
2. You aren't exactly perfect either. Just like her hypothyroidism bothers you, there are things about your own mental health struggles that probably bother her—but you don't seem to give those any thought.
3. The truth is, you don't love her. You claim you do, but you're getting hung up on a physical flaw. That's pretty awful. 😁

She’s the most compatible person I’ve ever met. She looks great, she’s brilliant, and she loves me... but I’m terrified of the complications this disease might cause. The weight gain wouldn't even be the main issue.
Dennis Patel5 Dennis Patel5 NewcomerOP
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#22 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:I just came across this online and felt a sudden, quiet urge to share it here with all of you:

"If you don't care about her, don't waste your time; if she doesn't want you, find someone else; but if you love her and she loves you, fight for her with everything you've got."😍

🙂

Love isn't the issue, we love each other. But there are complications coming my way. One woman described hypothyroidism—specifically Hašimoto—like this:

Hi. My name is Hašimoto. I am an invisible autoimmune disease that attacks your thyroid and causes hypothyroidism.

I've latched onto your life like Velcro. If you have hypothyroidism, you probably have me too. I am the number one cause of hypothyroidism in many countries across the globe.

I am sneaky and devious—I don't always show up on your blood work.

Others can't see or hear me, but your body feels me.

I can attack you anywhere, any way I want. If I feel like it.

I can cause intense pain or, if I'm in a good mood, I can make everything hurt.

Remember when you and your energy used to run around together and have fun?

I took that energy from you and gave you exhaustion instead. Good luck trying to have fun now.

I can rob you of good sleep and replace it with forgetfulness and lack of focus.

I can make you want to sleep 24 hours a day, or I can trigger insomnia.

I can make you feel internal tremors or make you feel freezing cold or burning hot when everyone else feels fine.

I can also cause swelling in your hands, legs, face, and eyelids—basically, I can make literally anything swell up.

I can make you feel deeply depressed or give you panic attacks. I can also cause other mental health issues.

Those crazy mood swings? That's me.

Crying for no reason? Getting angry for no reason? That's probably me too.

I can make your hair fall out, turn it dry and brittle, or stop it from growing. I can cause acne, dry skin—the sky's the limit.

I can make you gain weight, and regardless of what you eat or how much you exercise, I can make sure you don't lose a single pound. Then again, I can make you lose weight. I'm not discriminatory.

My friends—other autoimmune diseases—often join in, giving you even more reasons to worry.

If you had plans or were looking forward to a special day, I can take that away from you. You didn't ask for me. I chose you for various reasons:

That virus or set of viruses you never fully recovered from, that car accident, or maybe years of abuse and trauma (I thrive and enjoy stress). Or maybe it's just in your genetics. Regardless of the cause, I am here and I don't plan on leaving.

I hear you're going to the doctor to try and get rid of me. You make me laugh. Just try. You'll have to cycle through many, many doctors before you find one who actually helps you.

They'll prescribe the wrong meds, painkillers, sleeping pills, energy boosters, tell you that you're suffering from depression or panic attacks, and then prescribe antidepressants and stuff like that.

There are countless other ways I can make you sick and miserable. The list is endless—high cholesterol, gallbladder issues and stones, blood pressure, blood sugar, or heart problems? That’s probably me.

Can't get pregnant, or dealing with a miscarriage? Again, that’s likely me.

Short of breath or feeling ravenous? Yeah, probably me.

Elevated liver enzymes? Most likely me.

Dental and gum issues? Rashes? Yep, that's me again.

I told you the list was infinite.

They’ll write you prescriptions for chronic pain, suggest massages, or tell you everything will be fine if you just sleep more and exercise regularly.

They’ll tell you to "think positive," push you, force you, and worst of all, they won't take you seriously when you try to explain the endless cycle of specialists you've seen, how exhausting this illness actually is, and how truly sick and helpless you feel. There's a high chance those "understanding" doctors will just hand you a referral to a psychiatrist.

Your family, friends, and coworkers will listen until they eventually get tired of hearing the same old story about how hard I am on you and how much I make you feel weak, drained, and ill.

Some will say things like, “Oh, you’re just having a bad day,” or “Remember, you can’t always do what you did ten years ago,” failing to realize you were talking about ten days ago!

They’ll also say stuff like, “If you just got up and moved around, went outside, and stayed busy, you’d feel better.” They don't get that I’ve stolen the "fuel" that gives your body and mind the strength to actually do those things.

Some will start talking behind your back, calling you a hypochondriac, while you slowly feel your dignity slipping away trying to find some empathy—especially when you're mid-sentence with a "normal" person and suddenly can't remember what you were about to say next.

They’ll tell you, “My grandma had that, and she’s doing great on her meds,” while you're desperately trying to explain that I don't affect everyone the same way, and just because she's doing well on a specific treatment doesn't mean it'll work for you.

They won't understand that having this disease affects your entire body from head to toe, and that every cell, every system, and every organ needs the exact right dose and type of thyroid hormone for YOU.

Not whatever works for someone else.

The only place you'll find actual support and understanding regarding my presence is with other people who have me. They are truly the only ones who can actually understand.

I am Hašimoto.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#23 ·
Dennis Patel5 said:Love isn't the issue, we love each other. But there are complications coming my way. One woman described hypothyroidism—specifically Hašimoto—like this:

Hi. My name is Hašimoto. I am an invisible autoimmune disease that attacks your thyroid and causes hypothyroidism.

I've latched onto your life like Velcro. If you have hypothyroidism, you probably have me too. I am the number one cause of hypothyroidism in many countries across the globe.

I am sneaky and devious—I don't always show up on your blood work.

Others can't see or hear me, but your body feels me.

I can attack you anywhere, any way I want. If I feel like it.

I can cause intense pain or, if I'm in a good mood, I can make everything hurt.

Remember when you and your energy used to run around together and have fun?

I took that energy from you and gave you exhaustion instead. Good luck trying to have fun now.

I can rob you of good sleep and replace it with forgetfulness and lack of focus.

I can make you want to sleep 24 hours a day, or I can trigger insomnia.

I can make you feel internal tremors or make you feel freezing cold or burning hot when everyone else feels fine.

I can also cause swelling in your hands, legs, face, and eyelids—basically, I can make literally anything swell up.

I can make you feel deeply depressed or give you panic attacks. I can also cause other mental health issues.

Those crazy mood swings? That's me.

Crying for no reason? Getting angry for no reason? That's probably me too.

I can make your hair fall out, turn it dry and brittle, or stop it from growing. I can cause acne, dry skin—the sky's the limit.

I can make you gain weight, and regardless of what you eat or how much you exercise, I can make sure you don't lose a single pound. Then again, I can make you lose weight. I'm not discriminatory.

My friends—other autoimmune diseases—often join in, giving you even more reasons to worry.

If you had plans or were looking forward to a special day, I can take that away from you. You didn't ask for me. I chose you for various reasons:

That virus or set of viruses you never fully recovered from, that car accident, or maybe years of abuse and trauma (I thrive and enjoy stress). Or maybe it's just in your genetics. Regardless of the cause, I am here and I don't plan on leaving.

I hear you're going to the doctor to try and get rid of me. You make me laugh. Just try. You'll have to cycle through many, many doctors before you find one who actually helps you.

They'll prescribe the wrong meds, painkillers, sleeping pills, energy boosters, tell you that you're suffering from depression or panic attacks, and then prescribe antidepressants and stuff like that.

There are countless other ways I can make you sick and miserable. The list is endless—high cholesterol, gallbladder issues and stones, blood pressure, blood sugar, or heart problems? That’s probably me.

Can't get pregnant, or dealing with a miscarriage? Again, that’s likely me.

Short of breath or feeling ravenous? Yeah, probably me.

Elevated liver enzymes? Most likely me.

Dental and gum issues? Rashes? Yep, that's me again.

I told you the list was infinite.

They’ll write you prescriptions for chronic pain, suggest massages, or tell you everything will be fine if you just sleep more and exercise regularly.

They’ll tell you to "think positive," push you, force you, and worst of all, they won't take you seriously when you try to explain the endless cycle of specialists you've seen, how exhausting this illness actually is, and how truly sick and helpless you feel. There's a high chance those "understanding" doctors will just hand you a referral to a psychiatrist.

Your family, friends, and coworkers will listen until they eventually get tired of hearing the same old story about how hard I am on you and how much I make you feel weak, drained, and ill.

Some will say things like, “Oh, you’re just having a bad day,” or “Remember, you can’t always do what you did ten years ago,” failing to realize you were talking about ten days ago!

They’ll also say stuff like, “If you just got up and moved around, went outside, and stayed busy, you’d feel better.” They don't get that I’ve stolen the "fuel" that gives your body and mind the strength to actually do those things.

Some will start talking behind your back, calling you a hypochondriac, while you slowly feel your dignity slipping away trying to find some empathy—especially when you're mid-sentence with a "normal" person and suddenly can't remember what you were about to say next.

They’ll tell you, “My grandma had that, and she’s doing great on her meds,” while you're desperately trying to explain that I don't affect everyone the same way, and just because she's doing well on a specific treatment doesn't mean it'll work for you.

They won't understand that having this disease affects your entire body from head to toe, and that every cell, every system, and every organ needs the exact right dose and type of thyroid hormone for YOU.

Not whatever works for someone else.

The only place you'll find actual support and understanding regarding my presence is with other people who have me. They are truly the only ones who can actually understand.

I am Hašimoto.

It seems like they're laying it all out for you... but honestly, what your girlfriend is experiencing might be nothing like what's described here.
Have you actually observed any of this happening with her? Is it truly impacting your life together? Or are you perhaps just worrying about "what might happen one day" down the road?

I am currently in a relationship with someone living with Hašimoto, and I can tell you quite sincerely, the idea of ending things because of a diagnosis hasn't even crossed my mind..
Dennis Patel5 Dennis Patel5 NewcomerOP
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#24 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:It seems like they're laying it all out for you... but honestly, what your girlfriend is experiencing might be nothing like what's described here.
Have you actually observed any of this happening with her? Is it truly impacting your life together? Or are you perhaps just worrying about "what might happen one day" down the road?

I am currently in a relationship with someone living with Hašimoto, and I can tell you quite sincerely, the idea of ending things because of a diagnosis hasn't even crossed my mind..

Right now, Hašimoto isn't showing any major symptoms—practically nothing. What about your girl? Have you two been together long?
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#25 ·
Dennis Patel5 said:Right now, Hašimoto isn't showing any major symptoms—practically nothing. What about your girl? Have you two been together long?

If that's the case, what is it exactly that you're worried about?
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
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#26 ·
Dennis Patel5 said:She’s the most compatible person I’ve ever met. She looks great, she’s brilliant, and she loves me... but I’m terrified of the complications this disease might cause. The weight gain wouldn't even be the main issue.

And what about you? How do you feel about her, and how would you describe your role in her life?
I wonder, what is it that would actually bother you?
Dennis Patel5 Dennis Patel5 NewcomerOP
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#27 ·
Thomas Roberts9 said:And what about you? How do you feel about her, and how would you describe your role in her life?
I wonder, what is it that would actually bother you?


My main concerns are these:
-potential complications regarding conception and pregnancy
-the risk that hormone levels won't stabilize during pregnancy, which can impact the kids (like lower IQ)
-a strong possibility she develops another autoimmune issue (like Type 1 diabetes)

Minor concerns:
-possible personality changes, -reduced ability to work
mistydrifter55 mistydrifter55 Active Member
137 messages
joined May 2004
#28 ·
Dennis Patel5 said:My main concerns are these:
-potential complications regarding conception and pregnancy
-the risk that hormone levels won't stabilize during pregnancy, which can impact the kids (like lower IQ)
-a strong possibility she develops another autoimmune issue (like Type 1 diabetes)

Minor concerns:
-possible personality changes, -reduced ability to work

I know plenty of women living with Hašimoto.

Aside from some minor struggles with conceiving, none of those scary scenarios I listed ever happened to them.

Honestly, are you even sure you're 100% healthy?
What if there’s some genetic issue you don't know about that affects your sperm or leads to a sick child?
Are you certain you won't get sick and end up disabled by the time you're 40?
Or that you won't get hit by a car and lose both legs?
And so on...

Nobody knows what "tomorrow" looks like. You have zero clue.

To put it bluntly, you're being rude to her.
Just say what you think upfront. At least then you can be honest, if nothing else.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#29 ·
I have to admit, I find myself agreeing with mistydrifter55.
None of the points you've laid out serve as an actual guarantee that this won't happen to someone else, regardless of whether they have Hašimoto. It’s simply impossible to know for certain.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#30 ·
What kind of man are you? Just do her a favor and disappear from her life—that’s what you should have done a long time ago.

This just goes to show how much of a handicap having an illness is in today's society. Honestly, it's shameful that people aren't "perfect" anymore; it's such an egocentric, narcissistic culture we live in, and then everyone wonders why they can't find a partner.

Sick, sick, sick—now THAT is what a real sickness looks like.

Instead of evolving, we're regressing. It's terrifying, really.😠😠😠

We're all just riddled with prejudices—some more than others.
Jamie Lewis Jamie Lewis Member
26 messages
joined Aug 2017
#31 ·
fadedbear92 said:What kind of man are you? Just do her a favor and disappear from her life—that’s what you should have done a long time ago.

This just goes to show how much of a handicap having an illness is in today's society. Honestly, it's shameful that people aren't "perfect" anymore; it's such an egocentric, narcissistic culture we live in, and then everyone wonders why they can't find a partner.

Sick, sick, sick—now THAT is what a real sickness looks like.

Instead of evolving, we're regressing. It's terrifying, really.😠😠😠

We're all just riddled with prejudices—some more than others.

🙂 🙂 Reyy should probably send them all to a psych ward or maybe to one of those spiritual retreat seminars led by Zlatko sudac. 🙂

When Jesus was being crucified, he cried out: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

But deep down, he was probably thinking: Oh God, people are such animals!
Jamie Adams6 Jamie Adams6 Active Member
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joined Sep 2017
#32 ·
This would actually be such an interesting topic—like, what’s the line when you’re picking someone to spend your life with? What’s a dealbreaker and what isn't? It feels like you can toss aside a perfectly healthy person for a million different reasons and nobody gives you a second look... but if it's about chronic illness, suddenly you have to just deal with it or else you're some kind of monster. Everything else is fair game, but health is the one thing that ☕

I'm not saying I'm defending him, but it feels pretty hypocritical to call Dennis Patel5 a piece of crap when we all accept so much other stuff as totally normal and tolerate it from everyone around us.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
151 messages
joined Aug 2017
#33 ·
I suppose I wouldn't go so far as to call it a disaster, either.
Everyone is entitled to their own perspective, and since we really don't know much about his situation, it feels a bit premature to pass judgment. Perhaps this is simply his first serious relationship, and he hasn't yet learned how to distinguish between something healthy and something that isn't. Regardless, he came here seeking guidance.
Personally, I don't see a definitive reason for them to break up right now, though perhaps he sees something I don't...
It's possible she might find more peace without him, or perhaps she won't...
Ultimately, the choice rests with him... or perhaps with her.
☕
Jamie Lewis Jamie Lewis Member
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joined Aug 2017
#34 ·
Reyy has been through enough life lessons and seen enough of the world to basically have a crystal ball; she can see exactly how things are going to play out tomorrow, which is why she said 🍿
Dennis Patel5 Dennis Patel5 NewcomerOP
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#35 ·
Thomas Roberts9,

Just realized you're female. Honestly, I think a man dealing with Hašimoto has a much easier time navigating life than a woman facing the same diagnosis. Mainly when it comes to reproductive health.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#36 ·
It doesn't really matter... ☕

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