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Freedom of the press: Regulation vs. Censorship?

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Walter Hughes53 Walter Hughes53 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I’ll try my best to explain what I mean by this title.
It's getting pretty late, so if I mess up any typos or just lose my train of thought, I'm happy to clear things up later.
So, I've been thinking lately about what might happen if we actually put some limits on crime stories on the front page. I don't mean banning them entirely—they can still be there—but maybe they shouldn't take up so much damn space on the cover.
I actually just finished a really interesting book that talks about how there's a correlation between reporting on suicides and an actual increase in suicide rates.
But what really got me thinking about starting this thread was seeing all those news stories about knife attacks, especially when they're committed by young people.
I wonder if those kinds of headlines act as a trigger, you know? Like, maybe they spark a short wave of violence, particularly among kids.
One guy killed his girlfriend in Washington, D.C., then a girl killed her boyfriend in Savannah, and now there's this horrific crime out in Colorado.
The first one happened a while ago, but the news about the indictment just dropped at the exact same time as the stuff from Savannah.
I also feel like news about terrorist attacks might encourage future terrorists. Nowadays, terrorism is mostly people acting on their own, and when the same headlines and images keep looping on the front page, it might give them the encouragement they need.

Look, I'm not saying we should kill off press freedom. That's a huge part of being a civilized society. But honestly, I've never been a fan of those massive front pages filled with violence, accidents, and dead bodies just to boost sales numbers.
I'm willing to consider the idea that if there really is a link between these headlines and actual crimes, then maybe we're paying a price for our freedom of the press.
And I don't just mean newspapers either; this applies to all kinds of media too.
Anyway, I'm curious to hear what you guys think about all this.

*The book I mentioned earlier is called The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell.
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#2 ·
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_crime
This is exactly what you're talking about.

But here's the thing... trying to do something bad just to prevent something else bad from happening? That never ends well. Restricting freedom of the press is a perfect example of that logic.
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
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#3 ·
Look, let's get one thing straight: the idea that anyone, anywhere, actually enjoys absolute freedom of speech or total press freedom is just a massive myth...

Even here in the USA, which everyone loves to point to as the gold standard, that freedom isn't even close to being absolute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ech_exceptions

Then you have the whole messy debate about where the line should be drawn—trying to figure out how much you can restrict things before you start trampling on basic human rights, or deciding when the greater good of society outweighs an individual's liberty... but honestly, those boundaries exist everywhere on the planet, regardless of what people claim
Walter Hughes53 Walter Hughes53 MemberOP
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#4 ·
Morgan Cook10 said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_crime
This is exactly what you're talking about.

But here's the thing... trying to do something bad just to prevent something else bad from happening? That never ends well. Restricting freedom of the press is a perfect example of that logic.

Thanks for the link, and yeah, I totally agree that trying to fight evil with more evil doesn't work out. But, I guess I'm just wondering if cutting back on all that crime news on the front page would actually save lives. Maybe.
Tyler Robinson3 Tyler Robinson3 Newcomer
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#5 ·
That’s an interesting point... I actually had the exact same thought when I came across that article about the tragedy out in Colorado. Though, my mind didn't jump straight to the press—it was more about the internet at large.

In the US lately, we've seen such a rise in violence among young people—is the culprit the media, the internet in its entirety, the way they're being raised, or just the overall atmosphere of the country? I haven't lived in America for five years now, but I still observe everything from afar.

Generally speaking, it isn't just American youth; this entire generation is under massive influence from social media globally. From what I've learned through meeting many young Americans, there is this desperate craving for attention. Any kind of attention, really—positive or negative—doesn't matter, as long as everyone is talking about you. In that sense, yes, the media doesn't help, given their obsession with bombastic headlines. If those of us who are slightly older had been using Meta at, say, 13 or 14 or 15... I am certain it would have shaped us into completely different people.
Kids today have instant access to every piece of information imaginable—whether it's accurate, fake, or heavily curated—yet no one in our schools or our homes has taught them how to think critically. They haven't been shown how to navigate a sea of conflicting info regarding a single event to reach a logical conclusion, or how to stop seeing the world in such strict black and white.
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#6 ·
Walter Hughes53 said:Thanks for the link, and yeah, I totally agree that trying to fight evil with more evil doesn't work out. But, I guess I'm just wondering if cutting back on all that crime news on the front page would actually save lives. Maybe.

That’s a tough call because you don't really have a baseline for comparison. Even if you banned crime reporting and saw a drop in crime rates a few years later, it wouldn't prove anything on its own.

For instance, I could easily argue that more crime headlines actually equal less crime, based on the simple statistical fact that we live in an era where media coverage of crime is way up, while actual crime rates are significantly lower than they were thirty years ago. In reality, though, front-page headlines aren't the only factor influencing crime rates—if they even influence them at all.

There's also another thing to consider: news outlets love chasing trends.
You have to realize that thousands of things happen every single day, but the media only picks the ones they think will grab their readers' attention.
Take, for example, back when there was that whole saga with Coca-Cola planes having issues a few years back. It felt like every other headline was about a malfunction, making it seem like they just had terrible luck or that their planes were constantly breaking down. The truth was that nothing had changed regarding their mechanical reliability; they were just "trending" at that moment. Once the hype died down, the stories disappeared, and suddenly Coca-Cola planes looked perfectly fine to the public again.

What I'm getting at is... the real question is how much of this is a genuine issue versus just media hype surrounding a specific topic.
Walter Hughes53 Walter Hughes53 MemberOP
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#7 ·
Morgan Cook10 said:That’s a tough call because you don't really have a baseline for comparison. Even if you banned crime reporting and saw a drop in crime rates a few years later, it wouldn't prove anything on its own.

For instance, I could easily argue that more crime headlines actually equal less crime, based on the simple statistical fact that we live in an era where media coverage of crime is way up, while actual crime rates are significantly lower than they were thirty years ago. In reality, though, front-page headlines aren't the only factor influencing crime rates—if they even influence them at all.

There's also another thing to consider: news outlets love chasing trends.
You have to realize that thousands of things happen every single day, but the media only picks the ones they think will grab their readers' attention.
Take, for example, back when there was that whole saga with Coca-Cola planes having issues a few years back. It felt like every other headline was about a malfunction, making it seem like they just had terrible luck or that their planes were constantly breaking down. The truth was that nothing had changed regarding their mechanical reliability; they were just "trending" at that moment. Once the hype died down, the stories disappeared, and suddenly Coca-Cola planes looked perfectly fine to the public again.

What I'm getting at is... the real question is how much of this is a genuine issue versus just media hype surrounding a specific topic.


I get that headlines don't matter as much anymore—in today's world, word of mouth is huge since we're being bombarded by news from every direction—but still, mechanical failures aren't intentional. If they are, then that's a serious felony with real intent behind it.
vividfox9 vividfox9 Active Member
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#8 ·
Newspaper headline for sale.

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