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bluemason3 said:What area are we talking about here?
Any examples of how they overlap?
Can you give me some examples of science within the Vedas?
goldeneagle2 said:Man, bluemason3, you’re really out here killing the vibe for everyone's spiritual journey. It doesn't actually matter—you can sing along without fully grasping the lyrics, but... it's like... you feel it, right? These are the Vedas; they just sort of wash over your soul... There’s science involved too, ancient science—knowledge that’s millions of years old... mysticism and all that...
And honestly, if you're diving into the Vedas, the old-school recommendation is to tune into "on the edge of intelligence"... that's usually when the Vedas hit you the hardest... 👍
Rachel Williams18 said:So, what even is this whole "Veda science" thing?
I mean, how much of it actually makes it over to us Americans? How much of it has even been decently translated into ENG? Take Blavatsky, for instance—it feels like she’s basically the only one who called out the West for mishandling Veda knowledge, and because of that mess, it ended up in the hands of 19th-century occultists and Nazi fanatics... just a total tragicomedy...
bluemason3 said:Pretty much everything has been translated into English for ages, and well enough at that. Besides, plenty of people understand Sanskrit. You even have decent Indology programs in places like NYC where studying Sanskrit is a core focus.
Blavatsky was just spinning yarns that had little to do with the Vedas, selling her own narratives and interpretations that don't exist in the original texts. Just your typical romanticizing occultist peddler.
casualtiger2 said:Talk about unfair.
All that wisdom was handed out maybe 2,000 to 5,000 years ago and that's basically it.
Even God seems to have stopped checking in with the apostles.😢
frozengull2 said:Back when humans were basically just apes (if not earlier).
Old enough to make your head ache from all this ink...
Honestly, wouldn't be surprised if that era also produced the legendary: "haiku, haiku... damn it all"...
Ashley Wells85 said:The Vedas hold the lion's share of meaningful data regarding the universe, the nature of existence—from the birth and decay of physical forms to the migration of the soul...
As for the Ramin Bridge, Dwarka, Kurukshetra, and those other locations mentioned in the books we discussed earlier, there's a very high probability they actually existed. I recall watching a documentary a few years back that investigated the specific region where the battle at Kurukshetra supposedly took place; they cited evidence, I think it was some kind of radiation signature or similar findings.
Basically, it's been established that a significant conflict did occur there, which aligns with what's described in the Bhagavad Gita Quote
Just because it isn't official doesn't mean He isn't communicating...
Humans were never monkeys.
Michael Gonzalez77 said:But they certainly existed in a rudimentary state, far below the level of today's primates.
Ashley Wells85 said:Could you clarify that?
What kind of timeframe are we talking about here?
Because from what I understand, no species currently living on this planet actually evolved from some other preceding form. Sure, human genetics share certain touchpoints with other species, but that doesn't mean we branched off from primates. It’s more like a soul migration...
Ashley Wells85 said:Could you clarify that?
What kind of timeframe are we talking about here?
Because from what I understand, no species currently living on this planet actually evolved from some other preceding form. Sure, human genetics share certain touchpoints with other species, but that doesn't mean we branched off from primates. It’s more like a soul migration...
Michael Gonzalez77 said:The "Idea of Man" is essentially a genetic embryo containing all phylogenetic stages in a latent sense. However, its actual development starts at a rudimentary level. In this context, humanity has been on Earth for 5 million years, and our progression from then until now involves evolving toward the highest dimensions of existence, while also experiencing a curious "fall" back into the initial dimension where we currently reside. Before we developed multi-dimensionally—before consciousness crystallized for perspective-driven growth—humanity branched out in four directions. Three of those paths were non-perspective, including modern primates, which never reached the point of acquiring the specific energetic characteristics humans possess today. We gained those through multidimensional evolution (specifically through the three-layered astral body and an energetic structure referred to as the Soul—not to be confused with the aspect translated as Atma, which encompasses both organic and inorganic worlds, nor the light body which facilitates unrestrained creativity). So, man didn't evolve from monkeys; rather, humanity is the natural flowering of cosmic evolution. We carry the entire phylogenesis of material living beings within us, embodying the full experience of the cosmos regarding the development of material life. This evolution didn't just play out on Earth moving from inorganic to organic as the Darwinian hypothesis suggests; instead, this development unfolded within a cosmic context over eons and eons (what we perceive as infinite time), starting from the accidental emergence of matter and leading up to the appearance of beings with crystallized or complete consciousness. This applies to the "Idea of Man" and other advanced cosmic civilizations, whose shared developmental hallmark is a Collective Consciousness. Anything below that is merely preparation for creating that collective awareness—though in humans, due to free will and the capacity for creative growth, we see the rare phenomenon of developing flawed mindsets and practical self-sabotage.
The Soul is one. Fundamentally, there is no such thing as "soul migration." That’s just an illusion of separation caused by the weight of accumulated impressions—the idea that the Soul is this, or that, or a stone, a plant, an insect, a fish, a bird, an animal, or a human. What looks like "migration" is actually just the assimilation of a new physical medium driven by existing energy and the mental envelope where stored impressions exist, pushing to manifest and exhaust themselves.
bluecyclist64 said:If you’re going to quote someone, even if what they say is utter nonsense, the least you could do is provide a source.
Not everyone can spot the auras and authors like you can, oh enlightened master...😒
Michael Gonzalez77 said:The "Idea of Man" is essentially a genetic embryo containing all phylogenetic stages in a latent sense. However, its actual development starts at a rudimentary level. In this context, humanity has been on Earth for 5 million years, and our progression from then until now involves evolving toward the highest dimensions of existence, while also experiencing a curious "fall" back into the initial dimension where we currently reside. Before we developed multi-dimensionally—before consciousness crystallized for perspective-driven growth—humanity branched out in four directions. Three of those paths were non-perspective, including modern primates, which never reached the point of acquiring the specific energetic characteristics humans possess today. We gained those through multidimensional evolution (specifically through the three-layered astral body and an energetic structure referred to as the Soul—not to be confused with the aspect translated as Atma, which encompasses both organic and inorganic worlds, nor the light body which facilitates unrestrained creativity). So, man didn't evolve from monkeys; rather, humanity is the natural flowering of cosmic evolution. We carry the entire phylogenesis of material living beings within us, embodying the full experience of the cosmos regarding the development of material life. This evolution didn't just play out on Earth moving from inorganic to organic as the Darwinian hypothesis suggests; instead, this development unfolded within a cosmic context over eons and eons (what we perceive as infinite time), starting from the accidental emergence of matter and leading up to the appearance of beings with crystallized or complete consciousness. This applies to the "Idea of Man" and other advanced cosmic civilizations, whose shared developmental hallmark is a Collective Consciousness. Anything below that is merely preparation for creating that collective awareness—though in humans, due to free will and the capacity for creative growth, we see the rare phenomenon of developing flawed mindsets and practical self-sabotage.
The Soul is one. Fundamentally, there is no such thing as "soul migration." That’s just an illusion of separation caused by the weight of accumulated impressions—the idea that the Soul is this, or that, or a stone, a plant, an insect, a fish, a bird, an animal, or a human. What looks like "migration" is actually just the assimilation of a new physical medium driven by existing energy and the mental envelope where stored impressions exist, pushing to manifest and exhaust themselves.
frozengull2 said:Look, everything from paleontology (you know, paleobotany, micropaleontology, whatever) to paleogeography, paleoclimatology, evolutionary biology... geology, botany, zoology—basically all of embryology, genetics, anthropology, archaeology (not that I'm gonna list them all here)—none of it agrees with you.
Or even the Vedas...
Honestly, how much dirt is under your fingernails?
I gotta hand it to you though, that is some seriously "original" logic you're using to (totally dead-ass) dismiss every single science mentioned above:
"Just souls moving around..."
Give me a break...
bluemason3 said:Just Google it 😁
It’s gone. Vedic religion is basically extinct. You might find a few Brahmin groups tucked away in some rural villages that still cling to that specific stage of development, or maybe a handful of organizations that claim inspiration from the Vedas.
Most of what people talk about in the West is just modern Neo-Hinduism—a 19th-century invention built by stitching together Puranic Hinduism and other traditions that were already post-Vedic (dating back to the Middle Ages).
The Krishna followers are a slight exception; they follow one of those Puranic sects from the late Middle Ages, though they've been heavily reformed and adapted over time. Even they don't have much to do with the actual Vedas or the original Vedic religion, despite their obsession with slapping the label "Vedic" on everything under the sun.
If you actually want to study this seriously, you're better off enrolling in an Indology program rather than joining some local spiritual group.
Rachel Williams18 said:Could you maybe be a little more specific here? Like, which exact areas, villages, or groups are we even talking about?...
goldeneagle2 said:The most authentic form of the Veda is still practiced in the Brahmin village where the famous American guru Kumar originally hails from...