Braco from Silverman

Alright, has anyone else on this thread actually been to see him before?

Paul Jones7 said:hahahaha...

Maybe swing by after work sometime—just out of curiosity, I guess—to Wolf Shirt’s place for a little restoration session. You know, to officially renounce any ties to the old crew (Prokic and those other guys) 😛 😂

I mean, maybe you just totally misheard what was said?
Since when does a priest actually demand that you turn your back on your own flesh and blood?
That’s just not how any decent Christian is supposed to act. ☕

I guess I should probably mention Tanita... though honestly, I'm not entirely sure if I'm getting this right—it’s one of those things where you think you have a handle on it, then you realize you've only seen the surface, maybe? Anyway, just some thoughts floating around my head today. kaže:
The world is just crawling with people looking to pull a fast one—it really is. But I guess if someone manages to hustle their way into actually helping someone out... then maybe it isn't even a con anymore. It’s a weird thought, I know. Maybe it's just a different kind of luck.🙂

So, how do you actually figure out if a total con artist actually helped, rather than just giving you a placebo effect? I mean, it's a tricky one—it’s hard to tell where the actual result ends and the sheer power of suggestion begins. Maybe it's just wishful thinking? I don't know. It’s a bit of a gray area, really.

frozenmaker74 said:I mean, maybe you just totally misheard what was said?
Since when does a priest actually demand that you turn your back on your own flesh and blood?
That’s just not how any decent Christian is supposed to act. ☕

haha... fair point, 😁 though I guess we should probably check with the guy in the collar 👍
he'd likely argue he isn't asking you to disown them, but rather to distance yourself from their specific habits ☕

also—if we're being strictly theological here—he'd probably tell you that braco is your neighbor, not necessarily your brother 😁 (since, according to the Gospel, brothers are specifically fellow believers, whereas neighbors encompass everyone😛)

wearyowl29 said:Alright, has anyone else on this thread actually been to see him before?

Not me. Honestly, I'm not even that curious, so I suppose it'll probably stay that way🙂

Even Josip Blažević is bringing up Braco for his birthday now... 😲🙂🐔
http://www.bitno.net/vjera/bracolatr...li-kult-sunca/

Paul Jones7 said:

I guess I should probably mention Tanita... though honestly, I'm not entirely sure if I'm getting this right—it’s one of those things where you think you have a handle on it, then you realize you've only seen the surface, maybe? Anyway, just some thoughts floating around my head today. kaže:
The world is just crawling with people looking to pull a fast one—it really is. But I guess if someone manages to hustle their way into actually helping someone out... then maybe it isn't even a con anymore. It’s a weird thought, I know. Maybe it's just a different kind of luck.🙂

So, how do you actually figure out if a total con artist actually helped, rather than just giving you a placebo effect? I mean, it's a tricky one—it’s hard to tell where the actual result ends and the sheer power of suggestion begins. Maybe it's just wishful thinking? I don't know. It’s a bit of a gray area, really.

I mean, there’s really nothing to uncover here, right? If that guy happens to be the trigger for someone's placebo response, then he’s the one who did the heavy lifting—period. Everything else is just pointless overthinking and useless philosophy.😁

Lawrence Torres56 said:I mean, there’s really nothing to uncover here, right? If that guy happens to be the trigger for someone's placebo response, then he’s the one who did the heavy lifting—period. Everything else is just pointless overthinking and useless philosophy.😁

If he’s just a placebo trigger, then the person actually helped themselves. He's just taking all the credit based on a false interpretation of what actually happened.😁

Paul Jones7 said:haha... fair point, 😁 though I guess we should probably check with the guy in the collar 👍
he'd likely argue he isn't asking you to disown them, but rather to distance yourself from their specific habits ☕

also—if we're being strictly theological here—he'd probably tell you that braco is your neighbor, not necessarily your brother 😁 (since, according to the Gospel, brothers are specifically fellow believers, whereas neighbors encompass everyone😛)

Not me. Honestly, I'm not even that curious, so I suppose it'll probably stay that way🙂

1. You can't exactly renounce someone else's lifestyle or customs. That's entirely up to the person actually living them 😉
2. And how on earth can you be sure they aren't Christian? Just because one person wrote it down or said it doesn't make it an absolute truth, right?

Honestly, this whole monopoly on the supernatural—where they act like they hold the exclusive keys to reality and everyone else is just fundamentally wrong—it really grinds my gears. It just doesn't align with the actual teachings of the Gospel.
As for those false prophets, I think the saying "you shall know them by their fruits" covers it perfectly.
I mean, I don't think any devout believer needs a lecture on what astrology, tarot, or fortune-telling is, especially since that stuff is practically broadcasted on every single major TV network from morning to night; I haven't seen any massive movement to ban it, even though it's shoved in our faces daily. Meanwhile, certain groups get ignored unless they're actively writing op-eds about them. But honestly, the worst part of the whole mess to me is the rhetoric people use—this underlying bitterness and hate that practitioners of those crafts shouldn't even be feeling, let alone spreading to everyone else.

Lawrence Torres56 said:I mean, there’s really nothing to uncover here, right? If that guy happens to be the trigger for someone's placebo response, then he’s the one who did the heavy lifting—period. Everything else is just pointless overthinking and useless philosophy.😁

Nah, no... let's not go down the rabbit hole of philosophy just yet.

Realizing that you actually have this built-in mechanism for self-healing... I don't know, it kind of feels like a call to action, doesn't it? Like, once you know it's there, you can't really just sit around anymore—it practically demands a next step. So, I guess the big question is: what can we actually do with that? What are our options?

Stick with braco? I mean, why? I guess it's worth asking, really—though I'm probably just overthinking things again. Maybe there's a reason people hold on, but honestly, I'm not seeing it.

It’s that whole collective obsession with hunting for some kind of leader—some messiah or whatever—I guess. It’s like this shared impulse to go looking for answers out in the world, from someone else, instead of just... I don't know, looking within ourselves for once.

frozenmaker74 said:1. You can't exactly renounce someone else's lifestyle or customs. That's entirely up to the person actually living them 😉
2. And how on earth can you be sure they aren't Christian? Just because one person wrote it down or said it doesn't make it an absolute truth, right?

Honestly, this whole monopoly on the supernatural—where they act like they hold the exclusive keys to reality and everyone else is just fundamentally wrong—it really grinds my gears. It just doesn't align with the actual teachings of the Gospel.
As for those false prophets, I think the saying "you shall know them by their fruits" covers it perfectly.
I mean, I don't think any devout believer needs a lecture on what astrology, tarot, or fortune-telling is, especially since that stuff is practically broadcasted on every single major TV network from morning to night; I haven't seen any massive movement to ban it, even though it's shoved in our faces daily. Meanwhile, certain groups get ignored unless they're actively writing op-eds about them. But honestly, the worst part of the whole mess to me is the rhetoric people use—this underlying bitterness and hate that practitioners of those crafts shouldn't even be feeling, let alone spreading to everyone else.

I don't really have much to do with the church—or even the whole shirt thing, honestly—so I don't see the point in trying to defend theology. To be fair, I barely know anything about braco, either. This was mostly just... well, I guess it was more of a casual conversation over coffee. 😉

Paul Jones7 said:Nah, no... let's not go down the rabbit hole of philosophy just yet.

Realizing that you actually have this built-in mechanism for self-healing... I don't know, it kind of feels like a call to action, doesn't it? Like, once you know it's there, you can't really just sit around anymore—it practically demands a next step. So, I guess the big question is: what can we actually do with that? What are our options?

Stick with braco? I mean, why? I guess it's worth asking, really—though I'm probably just overthinking things again. Maybe there's a reason people hold on, but honestly, I'm not seeing it.

It’s that whole collective obsession with hunting for some kind of leader—some messiah or whatever—I guess. It’s like this shared impulse to go looking for answers out in the world, from someone else, instead of just... I don't know, looking within ourselves for once.

I don't really have much to do with the church—or even the whole shirt thing, honestly—so I don't see the point in trying to defend theology. To be fair, I barely know anything about braco, either. This was mostly just... well, I guess it was more of a casual conversation over coffee. 😉

Defend Theology? Who exactly is even attacking it? 🤷
By the way, I’m also just typing this out while sipping my coffee. ☕

haha... no, wait, I can't quite find the right word—not exactly "defending rights." What I meant was more like, taking the opposing side of the argument. And honestly, I wasn't even trying to lecture anyone on Christianity; I was mostly just being a bit tongue-in-cheek...

I mean, if Christianity actually wanted to, it could have maintained some kind of living, breathing connection to its own evolution—you know, evolving right along with human consciousness. But I guess it’s just easier for them to stay hermetic and stuck in tradition, buried under layers of dogma. It's easier to keep theology locked away and insist that Jesus's revelation was this final, closed chapter—claiming that theological explanations meant for people 2,000 years ago are somehow just as revealing and complete for someone living in the modern world today.

Besides, the Gospels pretty clearly mention that Jesus said there was still so much he hadn't said because people simply wouldn't be able to grasp it. So, it makes you wonder: how much more would Jesus have revealed if he were walking the earth right now? Wouldn't people today—well, at least the ones with the actual capacity to understand—be able to wrap their heads around a bit more?

And let's face it, avatars are still walking among us. The only difference is that none of them are out here playing the Messiah or claiming to be gods. Actually, they don't even think about it. They just know that whoever truly needs them will eventually find them.

and I honestly think those people out there building cults around themselves won't find any real sustenance in it, either

they know perfectly well—as well as anyone could, I guess—that if they want to keep their own spiritual engines running and actually feel some kind of progress, they need to plug into a few 'personal' little batteries of their own to stay powered up

Lik is a total genius. Most people just blow a lot of hot air trying to sound smart, which basically just leaves them wide open to getting called out. This guy? He just sits back, watches how everyone plays the game, and cashes in on it. It’s a brilliant move—honestly, I don't think anyone has ever pulled something this slick before. 👍

Henry Cox78 said:Lik is a total genius. Most people just blow a lot of hot air trying to sound smart, which basically just leaves them wide open to getting called out. This guy? He just sits back, watches how everyone plays the game, and cashes in on it. It’s a brilliant move—honestly, I don't think anyone has ever pulled something this slick before. 👍

We could all probably pull something like that off... if there wasn't something holding us back, I suppose.😒

So, what exactly is it that braco has that the rest of us are missing?

wearyowl29 said:We could all probably pull something like that off... if there wasn't something holding us back, I suppose.😒

So, what exactly is it that braco has that the rest of us are missing?

an actual following😁

Paul Jones7 said:an actual following😁

If it were truly established, we wouldn't be talking about a "following" at all—we'd be looking at a group of independent researchers capable of standing on their own two feet!
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A following is simply the result of something else (exactly what I felt myself, even though I'm certainly not part of any cult and have zero interest in being one! 😉)

wearyowl29 said:We could all probably pull something like that off... if there wasn't something holding us back, I suppose.😒

So, what exactly is it that braco has that the rest of us are missing?

A willingness to cut corners and play dirty?

wearyowl29 said:If it were truly established, we wouldn't be talking about a "following" at all—we'd be looking at a group of independent researchers capable of standing on their own two feet!
...

A following is simply the result of something else (exactly what I felt myself, even though I'm certainly not part of any cult and have zero interest in being one! 😉)

A reaction... but to what, exactly?

Why is it that people head straight to braco? Is it a conscious choice, at least for those who are going?

bluemason3 said:A willingness to cut corners and play dirty?

I mean, why jump to those conclusions so fast? Did you actually witness someone pulling a fast one, or are we just guessing?

It isn’t about whether it’s braco or seka... it’s really about us and the actual experience we're having in the moment.